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garnet
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Posted - 13 Sep 2014 :  6:48:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add garnet to your friends list Send garnet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I fully understand that nothing must happen to prejudice the outcome of this dreadful case but at the same time I wonder what happened to free speech and what has happened to our legal system if it can be overridden by comments on Facebook etc. Nuff said.

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jackiedo
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Posted - 14 Sep 2014 :  12:40:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jackiedo to your friends list Send jackiedo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's about judging on the evidence presented and not the power of public opinion. It could be said that one side or other could be seen as getting information out that it could make it hard for a magistrate or Juror to be objective. Surely not much longer now
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Pop
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Posted - 16 Sep 2014 :  09:32:03 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by garnet

I fully understand that nothing must happen to prejudice the outcome of this dreadful case but at the same time I wonder what happened to free speech and what has happened to our legal system if it can be overridden by comments on Facebook etc. Nuff said.


Like

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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 16 Sep 2014 :  09:56:18 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi pop, I "LIKE" too. Sadly it seems that we have to be the silent majority these days while the criminals get all the protection.

We no longer live in a society where we are allowed the fredom of speech even though the powers that be claim we do. You only have to see the fuss over the occasional thoughtless remark that could be construed as racist even when there was no racist intention to realise that fredom of speech has gone.

Barbara

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Libby Frost
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Posted - 16 Sep 2014 :  7:56:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Libby Frost to your friends list Send Libby Frost a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by barbara.gregory

Hi pop, I "LIKE" too. Sadly it seems that we have to be the silent majority these days while the criminals get all the protection.

We no longer live in a society where we are allowed the fredom of speech even though the powers that be claim we do. You only have to see the fuss over the occasional thoughtless remark that could be construed as racist even when there was no racist intention to realise that fredom of speech has gone.

Barbara


well said

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Esther
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Posted - 17 Sep 2014 :  05:31:58 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Esther to your friends list Send Esther a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If anyone wants more information on contempt of court and the internet, there is a good paper here: http://lawcommission.justice.gov.uk/areas/contempt.htm (it's the third one down listed on the right, about internet publications, and chapter two outlines the current position).

You have the freedom to speak your opinion about pending court cases in private, but what you don't have the freedom to do is make prejudicial comments about live court cases on websites that are open to the public. Sites such as Arabian lines or Facebook. From the moment of arrest to the conclusion of the trial, publications (and your posts on t'interweb are publications for the purposes of the law) should only include facts that are in the public domain.

The right to freedom of expression is not an absolute right.

paranoid horsemother

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Libby Frost
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Posted - 25 Sep 2014 :  10:10:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Libby Frost to your friends list Send Libby Frost a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any news anyone please as yet another hearing was today ?

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catherine1960
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England
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Posted - 26 Sep 2014 :  11:29:25 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add catherine1960 to your friends list Send catherine1960 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Adjourned until 7th November Prosecution have asked for more time for 'other avenues to be explored and other evidence that has come to light be examined' other than that I do not know.........whether this pertains to what I heard a few weeks ago or not then I cannot say but I have a strong feeling that it does
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 26 Sep 2014 :  1:35:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We have probaly heard the same thing from different sources Catherine.

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Libby Frost
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Posted - 07 Nov 2014 :  4:35:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Libby Frost to your friends list Send Libby Frost a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any news

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catherine1960
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Posted - 07 Nov 2014 :  8:01:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add catherine1960 to your friends list Send catherine1960 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Will be able to give an update on Monday as soon as I know from the courts what happened, due to family circumstances (bereavement) I was not able to contact my friend in the court office but will do on Monday morning as soon as I get some free time, and then post the outcome on here

Edited by - catherine1960 on 07 Nov 2014 8:01:46 PM
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Libby Frost
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Posted - 07 Nov 2014 :  8:36:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Libby Frost to your friends list Send Libby Frost a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thank you

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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 08 Nov 2014 :  1:17:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry to hear of your bereavement, Catherine. It is very kind of you to think of us all in your sad time. Thank you.

Barbara

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catherine1960
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Posted - 12 Nov 2014 :  9:36:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add catherine1960 to your friends list Send catherine1960 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have news..........not want you will all want to hear but this is how things stand as of last Friday.

All charges apart from 2 minor offences against Stephen Peel have been withdrawn, the CPS have stated ' that it is not in the public interest to pursue prosecution against him' in everyday terms he's got off on the mental health issues card unless of course he genuinely has had a breakdown.

However all the 21 charges against Rachelle Peel will stand...........thats the good bit now comes the not so good bit. The case had been adjourend until 30th March 2015 when a Pleas and Directions hearing is scheduled. This is the step prior to trial where all the charges will be read out to her one by one and she has to plead 'guilty' or 'not guilty' to each and every seperate charge.

As AL was down I did ask a friend of mine to post this on another group on Facebook not sure how many of you have seen that.

I wish I could have brought you better news but please hang on for a little while longer light is beginning to appear at the end of a very long tunnel for all of you waiting for justice for your horses.
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Libby Frost
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Posted - 12 Nov 2014 :  10:44:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Libby Frost to your friends list Send Libby Frost a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thank you Catherine

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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 13 Nov 2014 :  12:41:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I did see it on the closed forum on FB; thank you, Catherine. A long wait but hopefully justice will be done in the spring of 2015 and we will have cause to celebrate.

Barbara

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Callisto
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Posted - 14 Nov 2014 :  06:46:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much for keeping us updated, it does seem extraordinary that everyone involved in this case will now have to wait until March - hang on in there folks.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
East Sussex
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jackiedo
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England
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Posted - 14 Nov 2014 :  1:03:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jackiedo to your friends list Send jackiedo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Difficult one this. It may come down to ownership proof, who was in charge of care did know, should know, may know. Whatever happens there will not be a ban on Stephen now
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debs
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Posted - 14 Nov 2014 :  1:35:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If here has got off because of 'not being well' he should still be banned.... If he isn't well how can he be responsible for looking after animals #128563;

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jackiedo
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Posted - 14 Nov 2014 :  2:05:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jackiedo to your friends list Send jackiedo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A banning order is a punishment. No trial - no conviction - no conviction no punishment
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 16 Nov 2014 :  10:36:18 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Whatever happens there will not be a ban on Stephen now" Very wrong, there certainly should be but we mustn't go there as we don't want to do anything that could halt the trial of Mrs Peel so we still have to be circumspect and wait for March 2015.

Again, thanks to those who have worked to keep us informed as far as they are able.

Barbara

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Quarabian
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Wales
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Posted - 16 Nov 2014 :  12:52:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Quarabian to your friends list Send Quarabian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Then there should be a way of banning someone from keeping animals on mental health grounds. It should be an animal health issue not a punishment issue.
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