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Mike
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 Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 12:28:27 PM
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No none of the mares pictured are Mouna,though the bottom one is a chestnut!  (No doubt you had spotted that already!!! )
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Anfi
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Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 12:37:59 PM
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Mike
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Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 12:47:16 PM
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No not Safaa either, she was a daughter of Lubna by Sameh and so was a full sister of Sultan (aka Sultann) A nice try though!
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Anfi
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Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 1:00:27 PM
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www.allbreedpedigree.com lists Safaa, 1962 as being by Sameh out of Mouna - but it seems it must be wrong. In those matters, I trust you more, Mike
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Basilisk
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Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 1:29:28 PM
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Going back to the discussion about Spearmint and Santanna, if anyone wants to help conserve Courthouse blood, I would be prepared to lease a Courthouse-descended mare to a serious breeder to send to either of these horses. She is a quality mare, Best Foal at NGAHS and a European qualifier, tracing to Courthouse lines through her damline (Belka). I have often thought about sending her to Spearmint but unfortuntely finances have never permitted! She is not a big mare but is well-balanced, and additionally has a line to Mirage, which is not often come by!
If anyone is interested, please get in touch - we are having to move to a livery yard even further from home and I don't want to got through the stress of having a mare and foal so far away again...last time when we almost lost the foal was quite enough for me, but this mare is too good to waste!
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Basilisk
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Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 1:30:47 PM
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Is it just me, or is anyone else having problems with the photos not showing up? By the time the photos appear, you are usually 2 or three pages ahead of the question!
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Jingo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 9:24:51 PM
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Keren, would love to see photo of your mare and her pedigree. Spearmint is a LOVELY horse - Santanna not bad either, but he is Nuhra female line with a touch of Champurrado and Argos (Nabor(r) Naseem) and pure Courthouse Sire line |
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Stevie
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 11:27:23 AM
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Hi Mike
1Bint Mona?
2 Mona 11?
3 Mahiba?or her daugther Kis Mahiba?
show winer Maydan Madheen??????
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Mike
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 1:06:38 PM
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Hi Stevie,
Good thinking but sadly wrong though I can see why you thought that mare a might be Bint Mona(more on this later!. The show horse was around quite a while before Maydan Madheen came on the scene!.
I think that the key to this little puzzle is the identity of the horse that lived in an unusual place not normally associated with horse breeding. Think tourist attraction or somewhere to take the kids at the weekend! If you get this bit and the connection with the three mares, I believe that you will be more than half way there!
One further clue, one of the mares has a connection to this:-
Mike
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C.J.
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 2:13:32 PM
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Mike and Lynda
Photos of Bint Shaker and Estasha as promised plus one of El Masra for good measure, all taken at the Nations Cup, Ascot 1980.
ESTASHA grey mare f. 1973 (Shaker El Masri x Estopa)
BINT SHAKER grey mare f.1977 (Shaker El Masri x Estasha)
EL MASRA ches mare f. 1978 (Shaker El Masri x Estasha)
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"And God said to the Wind 'Be thou gathered together.' And the wind was gathered together....And he created from a handful of wind a horse of chestnut colour like gold. And God let loose the Swift Runner, and he went on his way neighing."
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Stevie
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LYNDILOU
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Stevie
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 2:53:18 PM
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Lynda,
We need all the help we can get!
Don't you think Malika's a lot like Estasha,but with longer leg's.
Do you remember her as a youngster? |
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Mike
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 2:54:10 PM
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Stevie,
That would be telling! I could just as easily have used this one instead!
The connection has nothing to do with any of the horses pictured inside though!
Thanks for the photo's Caroline According to the AHRA data, Bint Shaker's foreleg nearest the camera would have had no visible white seen from this side. So that's why I mistakenly plumped for the colt Estashan.
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Stevie
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Mike
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 4:45:38 PM
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Yes Stevie, they are all asil, but one of the three has a much stronger connection with the books than that!
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Mike
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 5:41:04 PM
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Time perhaps for a couple of heavy hints to get you all started.
Where would you go to see lions, tigers, zebras and polar bears?
Who actually publishes the books pictured?
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Jingo
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Mike
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 8:39:08 PM
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Ooookaaay, so which famous horse lived in a zoo, and which particular German(s) publishes the books?
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Anfi
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 10:33:48 PM
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Kaisoon lived in a zoo.
Publisher Olms Presse
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Mike
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 10:40:02 PM
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So he did! and is that not an unusual place not normally associated with horse breeding? So how is he connected with the three mares?[:8]
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 15 Aug 2005 : 10:31:18 AM
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| Yes Stevie Malika was a lot like Estasha, sadly she had the same back end though, but fortunatly she has not bred it on ! she is a beautiful mare now and a really good brood mare. |
   
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Stevie
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Posted - 15 Aug 2005 : 12:30:11 PM
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Yes Lindy, she lost the 1st place at the Nats becaues of the BUM.
But Mrs Murrray said what a wonderfull face,and neck.l think that day she was beaten by Ali KhanIf you have to drop a place l did'nt mind it being to him. |
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Anfi
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Posted - 15 Aug 2005 : 12:35:02 PM
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The grey in the middle is Bint Nafteta (Kaisoon? x Nafteta)
I have to add that I have only found her picture at one internet webpage and therefore depend on a single (not always reliable) source - there is also a Hamasa bint Nafteta (at hamasa.de), but she looks different I think.
The first photo might be Nafteta, then.(Kaisoon x Moneera)
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Mike
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Posted - 15 Aug 2005 : 6:02:07 PM
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Hi Anne,
You are so close that I will tell you that the picture you found was incorrectly attributed to the wrong horse. Nafteta was never bred to her sire Kaisoon, the picture is one of Nafteta herself taken when she was younger!. So the first mare isn't Nafteta but the 2nd one is.
You are getting there!!!!
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