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Elainem
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 Posted - 18 May 2009 : 5:47:08 PM
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Yes I can tell you why they are on separate days. At the AGM that is what we were asked for. Were any of you there? We have tried our best and we cannot please everybody.
I've travelled the length and breadth of this country setting off in the early hours to show in one or two classes, that's what showing is about.
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BabsR
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 18 May 2009 : 6:31:46 PM
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BUT....Elaine the original 2009 scheduling of classes WAS that Anglo and Part Bred Arab Classes were to be staged on Friday....Part Breds AM and Anglo Arabs, PM The revised classes have only added 2-extra Anglo and 4-extra PBA. Could not the original scheduled timetable for both sections to be staged on Friday, still be adhered to
Admit, we did not attend the AGM.....too many horses to attend to and they have to take priority of our available workday, I`m afraid.
OH and myself have spent more than 25 years, often working all night, before setting off on long journeys, OH driving, me in the back, plaiting and grooming, just to attend the Shows. So, yes, been there done that and finally hung up the bridles in 1998!!
Our entries have been sent. We are making the effort to support the Anglos at the National this year. Very grateful for the division of classes and can hope others do likewise.
Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk
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weirton
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Posted - 18 May 2009 : 7:11:39 PM
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Perhaps it’s time to draw a line under the to and fro niggling over this years schedule.
After the initial mistakes the show committee have listened enough to partly correct the situation and for this year it’s time to do the best we can to make it a success.
The AGM is surely not the place to discuss the fine detail of the show schedule and with the short notice given it was not easy for many people to get horse cover and time to travel to Coventry.
Looking forward, perhaps the Show Committee, who appear to lack expertise on AA/PB matters (nobody can be expert on everything) should consult with the AA/PB community as to the correct framework for next year. There has been input on several forums in the past ie two day show instead of three as the rings are empty on many occasions but with wider consultation a new era could be exciting, less expensive and with bigger more impressive classes.
IMO a meeting, held in the autumn (not dead of winter ) in a central location (5* not required ) with plenty of notice would allow all AA/PB owners to give help to the Show Committee and produce the best National Championship Show schedule possible. Perhaps enabling a return to showing because it’s enjoyable and we want to do it and not because we feel we have to in order to avoid the threat of losing our classes altogether.
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SueN
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England
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Posted - 18 May 2009 : 10:05:46 PM
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Brilliant reply Jean. As usual you have got it absolutely right.  |
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nn
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sazzlepants71
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 May 2009 : 10:15:43 AM
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hi , i am really pleased to see so much activity going on for the AA & PBA, as owners of a pure, PBA & AA its good to get out and do the real 'mix' of classes that are out there for us.
sadly the PBA isnt in work at the mo which is a shame due to long term illness, keeping fingers crossed that he may be back in a veteran class one day!
However , i have entered AA in wessex show - (inhand) & kent CS.
southeast show i'll be there too - i absolutely love showing inhand in the AA/PBA classes and its so amazing to have the championships back I cant tell you!
I hope we make it there!!
BUT, to everyone involved in reviving these classes , a big thankyou- I for one really appreciate the effort made, and if I can make it to a show with AA classes I will!
I hope others will follow & support these classes. |
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 19 May 2009 : 10:43:05 AM
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Yes......count me in for that. Autumn meeting with Anglo and Part Bred Arab Breeders/Owners and the National Show Committee... can only be beneficial for all concerned 
Can that be arranged??
Babs
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 19 May 2009 : 11:26:13 AM
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This thread is certainly coming up with some constructive and positive ideas.
The Event is progressing,we have 6 stallions booked for the parade so far some of these will be competing,entries have started arriving, and there has been a good deal of activity on the website. www.arab-trakevent.com Which we will continue to update with relevant information. Looking forward to meeting some of you on the day.
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Ziadomira
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 19 May 2009 : 11:18:57 PM
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I think that a meeting in the Autumn would be ideal. If we can bring the organisers of the National show, Cherif Championships and the AA/PB In hand Championships together then maybe we can work on getting things right first time in 2010.
Some time ago someone on this site suggested an AA/PB club, maybe this could be an idea for making sure AA and PB breeders and owners know what is going on. Eventually this could lead to a specialist magazine a bit like the Crabbet one.
Zia (My uncle is a part bred)
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Scarlet Arabian
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England
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 07:51:40 AM
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i think people would really sign up for that ,great idea,
at the moment PBA/AA people/breeders are tossed from one society to another,
a mag is some thing of a show case , some thing to look forward in the post
look at the success of !!
may be a club that can promote or encourage different types of classes i.e.sport horse/insrt/hacks etc at some of the shows, may be even at the regionals???
Abby
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 08:02:05 AM
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Good idea.....Rachelle of Templars as Editor??
suggested titles please, mine would be:
ANGLO AND PART BRED ARAB
Flying the Flag
or:
ANGLO AND PART BRED ARAB
The Ultimate Sport Horse
idea: print `Flyers` and hand out at Nationals and all AHS Shows
to `feel` the interest in such a magazine
Babs
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 10:07:02 AM
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I would like to point out that the AHS magazine has asked for editorial on numerous occasions which does not seem to be forth coming, it seems a pity not to make use of this offer. Paula has offered to give us a section on AL, so why is this not taken up, it would seem more realistic to use what is available to us, rather than going to the expense of a new set up.
The suggested meeting in the Autumn meeting seems to be a popular idea, so perhaps some one might be prepared to see if this is feasible. |
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weirton
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 11:56:58 AM
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I like the title ANGLO AND PART-BRED
Flying the Flag as this clearly involves everyone not just Sport Horse enthusiasts.
But which is the best way forward, we have so many options. A lot of thinking to be done it seems.
I have often wondered why on AL Events and AA/PB sections we only get the Cherif results (courtesy of Lynda Temple) Perhaps we could have results and photographs from the regions too. Pens and cameras out!!
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 1:07:57 PM
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Yes Jean.....Flying the Flag....encompasses all spheres, from birth
through the whole spectrum of equine Shows to the ultimate performance Anglo/Part Bred Arab
Can`t see why such a magazine....would not draw as much interest as the Arab Magazine does, for Pure Bred Arabians. The general public unfortunately have the assumption that the AHS Magazine is also, mainly for Breeding and Showing Pure Bred Arabians. Possibly may be one of the reasons why so few Anglo/Part Bred Breeders/Owners feel reluctant to advertise in Arab Horse Society publications
Have to say, methinks the current "favoured USA fashion" of producing/exhibiting for Pure Arab breed classes, is somewhat scorned on by the general horse public and is likely to cause Anglo/Part Bred Owners, to distance themselves, and often deny the "Arab" content
on their pedigrees.
Our own Breed Magazine, could be the way forward for Anglo/Part Bred enthusiasts.....worth giving some thought to the possibility. May also encourage the many competition horses out there and having a dedicated magazine, to inform of their successes whilst `flying the flag ` for the breed. Breeders are likely to benefit by a revived interest in Anglo/PBA Stallions in the long term
Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk
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templars
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 1:31:01 PM
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Every time Evie and one of hers leave the start box at an event - we yell "Fly The Flag" - the starters and commentators are getting quite used to it now and for me, it sums up exactly what we are doing - flying the flag for Arabian blood.
Tongue in cheek suggestions for the title of an AA/PB magazine:
"Always the bridesmaid never the bride"
"Second class seats with a first class ticket"
"Back of the mag" (ref to AHS magazine - articles on AA/PB or performance always at the back!!)
"Second eleven"
"Almost"
I think it's a massive shame that the AA/PB and performance horses feel that they can't be accommodated in our breed society magazine. But whilst the emphasis is on pure showing (in hand and ridden), my personal view is that the other categories don't sit comfortably in the same publication.
Maybe a separate publication with the intention of raising awareness and interest (and more than anything, participation) so that over time, the two can come back together once more when owner/breeder/riders are happy to make a contribution and feel that it is valued and not seen as being second class or of little interest.
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Scarlet Arabian
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England
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 1:45:36 PM
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brand it as the
ANGLO TB & PARTBRED ARAB performance mag
with lots of reports and results, articles, from inhand and ridin, competing and breeding anglo and partbred arabs
(i think it is important to put partbred arab , otherwise it could mean partbred any thing)
could also be a great way to advertise anglo/partbred arab stallions??
Abby
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PHILIP
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 6:46:29 PM
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well isn't it encouraging that there is a good number of people who really want to support the regional and national show and to get back the enjoyment so many have had in the past and to enjoy again the showing of your AA + PBs. As has been said - how do you get from today to tomorrow where the show committees are putting on the types of classes which will be well supported by yourselves!!!???
I think that Jean you have the beginning of a very good idea about a meeting with perhaps the national show committee and/or other show organisers. What it now needs is for maybe yourself to start the ball rolling and get that meeting set up - get an agenda of ideas, a venue, the co operation of the shows and events committee, other show organisers, owners/breeders/supporters of the AA/PB. I am sure once the ball is rolling you will find a latent enthusiasm ready to explode.
Good luck
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Ziadomira
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 9:13:45 PM
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I mentioned the idea of the magazine similar to the Crabbet one as, believe it or not some people don't have the internet!! They miss out on all the info that is on ALines.
The Crabbet topic on this forum has numerous pages but they are all keen to get their magazine.
A magazine could support any section on here.
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nn
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Posted - 21 May 2009 : 07:48:18 AM
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I have been asked to write an article for the AHS news on Gemini and his off spring, so that will be one AA in there!
Templars why not write an article for the AHS on the performance side and submit it for the AHS news?
Babs you could write one on all the wonderfull AA/PBAs out there flying high in the showing world?
It would be a start!!!
Ranger has now qualified for the regionals at novice and is now graded elementary. We hope to have him out at medium by the end of the year.People still curl back in horror when they discover he is PBA. Especially as he has a trakehner brand!
What about if we try to get an article in the BD mag? There must be lots of closet AA/PBAs out there doing the dressage?
The chiltern rider did a article on arabs/AA/PBA the other month so there is interest!
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templars
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Posted - 21 May 2009 : 08:24:21 AM
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Nicky
I have written articles for them in the past. And the Crabbet Journal. And . And Horse and Hound.
Happy to keep writing though!! |
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BabsR
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Posted - 21 May 2009 : 10:04:15 AM
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Same here Nicky Arab Mags and Arabian Link, several times over the years
Always happy to write articles.....if invited to do so
Babs
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templars
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Posted - 21 May 2009 : 10:15:11 AM
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| Must say though, it gets a little dispiriting to write a full page article and send in excess of 3 photos, to have to hunt the finished article - all half an inch of it buried somewhere! |
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Admin
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Posted - 21 May 2009 : 10:47:49 AM
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We always want Articles for the AA/PBA section, and space is no object and loads of photos always welcome  Plus we never archive or bury articles on the main sections of the site.
You do have the whole section guys ..... we rarely get anything for it.
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Lynda
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Posted - 21 May 2009 : 12:04:05 PM
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Well, here's your chance to write anything about Anglos and Part breds, including photos. Please don't loose the opportunity that A.L. has given us.
A few years ago, I wrote an article on Anglos of yesteryear, with loads of photos, and it was lovely to see it and all the photos on this site.
There are so many subjects that could be chosen, including reports on the showing scene, how our lovely Anglos and Part breds are doing competing against all breeds etc. etc.
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Scarlet Arabian
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