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mittens
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 Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 9:12:42 PM
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I was all geared up to watch it but have just read that it contains upsetting scenes of everything to do with living off horses meat etc .. I know it would probably be fascinating otherwise but I for one can't watch things like that without getting upset.Mum is taping it but wondered if anyone was going to brave it.
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Sushi
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Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 9:16:05 PM
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Was going to watch it but OH is watching football so taping it.
If it is as bad as you think that means I can fast forward or switch off. |
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Vera
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Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 9:23:10 PM
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| I'm watching now and its not for the faint hearted but you have to respect that its their way of life. |
    
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jillandlomond
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Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 9:23:32 PM
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I'm watching the football instead too! |
    
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Deboniks
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Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 9:29:35 PM
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| OH NO!! Look what there eating now!!! I'm feeling sick!! |
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mittens
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Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 9:31:45 PM
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| OH is home now and football on here now too....so glad I not watching,but I agree it is their way but just not what we comfortable with here. |
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garnet
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Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 10:47:57 PM
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| I switched over when they were going to kill the mare but I watched most of the rest, having previously decided not to do so but then switched onto it by accident. I must admit that I found it very interesting and although it was very alien to the way we treat our animals they genuinely seemed to care about them although there was no room for sentiment in such a harsh environment. |
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Arabian Girl
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Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 10:49:01 PM
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| oh no i couldnt watch it,,i heard a mare breathless then i think they were strangling it,,,no not for me........i turned over then turned back for Jools Holland YAY... |
   
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vjc
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Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 11:04:07 PM
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started watching but then agreed to let my OH switch over when i realised they were going to eat their horses i have got to say though, living in such a remote place meant it was the only option for them which is a bit differant to people who eat horsemeat just for a change to other meats! and they did genuinely seem to care for their horses. Killing them for meat is surely not as bad as people in the western world leaving them to starve and suffer neglect. OOOOOOH i nearly got on a soapbox then |
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Sadika
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Posted - 07 Apr 2009 : 11:33:57 PM
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I watched it - rather (actually VERY) stomach turning - eating virtually every bit of an equine ... something at every meal of the day - NO way could I EVER do that but agree it's a way of life and actually the living ones seemed to be looked after despite the incredibly low minus temperatures. I liked the bits where the reporter and herdsman were riding in the snow (though not when they were collecting ALL those snared Arctic hares ...) It was the killing of the mare which was absolutely dreadful - I expected her to be shot or throat cut maybe - that would have been bad enough - not made to twist round that vertical pole until she collapsed with her breathing cut off and then the axe in her head - not an instant way to go - presumably that's how they all meet their end? I found that totally shocking ... HOW could they still be doing that nowadays?? Yes I know awful things go on still with the treatment of humans all over the world - but surely a more humane way could be adopted?? It seemed a strange contrast to have a modern vehicle to transport them to the next village with the carcass and to be able watch satellite tv - yet they slaughtered that mare like they were in the dark ages - so inhumanely ...
When she barged through the fence initially and galloped off I thought she'd escaped ... not to be.
I think there's a couple more in the series ... don't know if I'll have the stomach to watch ... and probably won't sleep well tonight. POOR POOR mare.
Here's a link to the programme blurb ... and you can watch it here too
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jt4pk
Next week she's in Andalucia - I don't think they eat their horses - do they?? |
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 06:43:28 AM
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| I did'nt watch it after reading that they eat them, and am so pleased now after reading what you said, Sadika. |
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Libby Frost
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 07:02:44 AM
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Now i know these people dont have humane guns ,and also have different customs etc but i was quite frankly HORRIFIED to just switch over, and witness this poor horse on telly firstly being strangled with three people and a pole, then had its head axed while its jugular bled.
Now i come from a farming background and are accostomed to death etc but this was hideous,did any one else see it?   |
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themewoman
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 08:04:51 AM
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i thought the whole program was very interesting.
it's a completely different way of life. |
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themewoman
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 08:07:45 AM
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you have a very short sighted veiw of the world if you think that Sadika. this is a totally different way of life for them. at least they are not just killing horses for the sake of it, they are using every bit of it as food. as you see there are no cows or pigs there for them to eat. they don't see their families and they have been brought up like that.
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rafabreeze
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 08:36:25 AM
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| I was going to watch it, but when i pressed the button to read what it was about and it said there were some disturbing scenes, I thought no thank you. Im glad i never saw it now, yes these things go on, but really I dont want to see it. Other people live different lives to us and have different values, horses, animals, arent pets like they are for us and I do understand that, but I cant watch anything like that without getting terribly upset, so best I dont watch it - Georgina |
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Slave 2 Magic
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 09:12:27 AM
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| I did watch it and yes it was pretty horrific in parts. I couldn't watch them kill the mare but it is their way of life. The horses are very well looked after and the main man in the camp said he loves them, they are his friends. Alexandra got really upset over the mare killing but she did say that it is their livelyhood and you have to respect them for that. |
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 09:35:23 AM
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| Its obvious Sadika is not talking about the killing for meat, but the WAY of killing. |
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Sadika
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 09:36:46 AM
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| There's a thread about this started on "Tea and coffee". |
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Sadika
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 09:42:43 AM
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| Thank you Goldenmane! I am not someone with a "very short sighted view of the world" and am disappointed someone could interpret my posting in that way. I appreciate that people throughout the world eat all sorts of things and are entitled to do so - no problems there - it was indeed the method of slaughter which I could not agree with. If they can have some modern things then why not a humane killer? |
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Eeyore
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 09:58:41 AM
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I watched it all and found the killing of the mare very sad.
But then I thought about the horses that go on journeys from hell on meat lorries in Europe. They experience the same fear but for a much longer period. Most of them are probably not killed humanely if we're honest.
I find the killing the killing of any animal for meat a shocking brutality because that's the way I feel about taking life, any life.
But at least their horses lived a happy life running with the herd before they were killed. |
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rafabreeze
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 09:59:21 AM
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| Im just glad I didnt watch it, after seeing that it said there were disturbing scenes I knew it wasnt for me. I know these things go on throughout the world, but my choice is not to actually watch someone doing it. Georgina x |
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mittens
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 10:01:00 AM
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| As you know I wasn't watching,but I agree with Sadika in that although these people live in a very harsh environment certain things are well within the realms of modernisation from a welfare point. I saw a prog years ago where it was woman v cowboys... she was trying to tell them that horses could be trained without cruelty and breaking their spirit etc,and that they shouldn't geld horses when they fully conscious purely as they thought the normal way would take up too much time etc etc.Sometimes people don't see anything wrong in what they do because it is TRADITION and has been handed down generation afer generation. Nobodys saying they are wrong for living off the horses and I think we waste far too much of what we kill in the western world (although loads of stuff probably goes into sausages) .Just that is there any place ANYWHERE,no matter how remote,for such a way of killing when there must be quicker alternatives,unless as in some cases it is seen as sport. |
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BabsR
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 10:11:26 AM
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OMG.......my blood runs cold at the very thought of such horrendous suffering to a defenceless animal. Why is this horrific slaughter allowed. What is their government doing, to allow such inhumane cruelty. Could not watch, would not watch!! From what has been described, thank God I did not watch...
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 10:19:53 AM
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A thought provoking programme, although I switched over before the mare was killed. maybe bringing this way of life to peoples attentions, could encourage certain animal rights groups to send a team over and show them a kinder way to dispatch the horses? after all they said the mare knew what was to be her fate as she had seen foals die in the same way. she must have been terrified
it is true the men loved their horses but maybe educating them to give the horses a more humane death would greatly benifit both man and horse alike? JMO |
   
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