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Evie
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 :  9:25:56 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Evie's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Evie to your friends list Send Evie a Private Message
Yes, have pm'd you

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Annette
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 :  11:27:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Annette to your friends list Send Annette a Private Message
Hi Jameela!

I am so pleased that you did not take Jameela to Llanybydder. I owned her for 6months and returned her to her original owner in February. This was because I bought her as an unbacked 4yr old, which is what I wanted, but subsequently discovered she had bucked off and severely injured the person she had been sent to for breaking, who is EXTREMELY experienced in backing horses and has a full knowledge of the arabian temperament. I realised that Jameela was going to be a much bigger project than I was prepared or able to undertake at my age, and her original owner agreed to refund the money I had paid for her.

Jameela DOES have problems, if you PM me I can tell you a bit more, but if you have a lot of time to devote to her I think she can get there. It sounds like she has already learned to trust you, she may have a problem with other people who have to handle her.

There seem to be a few people on this thread that know an awful lot about her without ever having anything to do with her. She has NEVER been "heavily sedated" to have her feet done. I gave her Sedalin just to try and take the edge off her for my farrier. The Sedalin had no effect whatsoever on her, which I believe is quite normal in some horses. On the day we managed to get two front feet done (as you will have noticed). My farrier is absolutely brilliant, very very quiet and calm with everything. We did not attempt the hind feet on the day, as he was already running very late and it would have been unfair of me to expect him to stay longer.

I want to assure you-and others who have made comments that seemed to suggest otherwise- that Jameela was handled with patience, understanding and kindness the whole time she was with me. She has suffered no trauma of any kind whilst here. I believe some of her probems may go way back to when she was a foal when she fell off the ramp of a horsebox badly injuring a hind leg-there is still a scar on her near hind to show the severity of this wound. I believe the veterinary attention that would have been needed for this injury would have proved very traumatic for one so young, and so started her mistrust of strangers. It is my belief that Jameela has received nothing but kind and fair treatment all of her life.

For those who seem to think that Jameela just needs to be turned away for a year to "chill" you are on the wrong track. After returning from her unsuccessful backing -and Zan, backing does NOT mean intensive schooling, Jameela has NOT been exposed to intensive schooling- Jameela was turned away for the next twelve months until I bought her. But turning away does not mean that a horse will magically forget any or all of the things we would like them to forget. Daily, consistent handling is what she needs most by someone who is consistent and fair and who she accepts as her leader.

With the right facilities and an infinite amount of time I would have kept this filly. She was my dream horse, a Rusleem filly, and related to my beautiful boy Al Rakka, and it was with regret that I had to return her. I had a great affection for her.

You asked where to show her? As you are in Wales, the Wales and West Arab show in May near Chepstow would be a very good start I would say. I would love to see her doing well. She is a beautiful filly and I do sincerely wish you well with her

Annette
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Karon
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Posted - 28 Mar 2009 :  09:26:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Karon to your friends list Send Karon a Private Message
I can well believe that a traumatic injury could cause problems down the line. One of mine was very ill last year and had to have a lot of intensive vet treatment. Although she's well handled - and now nearly 8 - she did start to get very difficult to handle for the vet and I could see how a younger horse would decide not to play any more. Rash is, luckily, a fairly stoical horse and got over it although she still doesn't like vets much. Last vet visit for her peritonitis, she was getting to the stage of being aggressive - and she's a very sweet natured, easy going, not over-sensitive mare normally.

But as Jameela does have issues - or did - anyone is going to wonder whether she's been treated less than well at some point. Not with you, Annette, it is obvious from your PM that you were getting on well with her. But now knowing about her injury that does put a different light on the origin of her problems and I still stand by my suspicions that she may have had damage that just hasn't been diagnosed.

Turning away does help with some horses, not ignoring and leaving alone for a year but just having day to day handling with no pressure and stress. If I'd had her, she would have just been handled along with the rest of mine and I'd just have seen how she went, with professional, Arab minded, help available if needed. Hopefully she'll enjoy life as a brood mare

Edited by - Karon on 28 Mar 2009 09:38:54 AM
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Gerri
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Posted - 28 Mar 2009 :  10:51:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message
I once bought a little Arab from a sale, got her really cheap and found that she had big problems, after spending an absolute fortune on vets bills, someone in the yard had a back specialist out and just happened to mention this little arab I got............ it turned out that a bone in her neck was out, and after regular treatment it was fine and she went on to be a ridden Arab without any problems, I put her out on loan and the girl loaned her for about a year then asked to buy her, which we were happy about, they loved each other and I was so pleased that everything turned out well in the end, but she also went berserk when being ridden until, we found the problem but it took a long time getting the right person, we went through soo many so called physio's and back specialists and people with crystals ..............mmmn
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jameela
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Posted - 28 Mar 2009 :  2:20:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jameela to your friends list Send jameela a Private Message
the big palomino stallion was at llanybydder ..he fetched £1850..i watched him go through!! he was lovely
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Annette
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Posted - 28 Mar 2009 :  10:07:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Annette to your friends list Send Annette a Private Message
Karon, Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you, you PM'd me and asked for details. I was talking about the people who had never met or known Jameela and who seemed to think any problems with her MUST be the fault of the people who had owned/handled her.

Apologies if you thought I meant you.

Annette
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s.jade
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Posted - 28 Mar 2009 :  10:17:20 PM  Show Profile  Send s.jade an AOL message  Click to see s.jade's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add s.jade to your friends list Send s.jade a Private Message
What a relief for eveyone that Jameela has a safe home. Annette, you must be relieved she is safe, and I bet she is a much happier, and safer horse for your 6 months of love and patience, than she would have been otherwise. x

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Annette
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Posted - 29 Mar 2009 :  9:25:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Annette to your friends list Send Annette a Private Message
Thanks for that Sam. I did my best for her, but it was the issue over the backing that made my mind up. Too old now for heroics . You should have done the swopsie

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s.jade
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Posted - 29 Mar 2009 :  9:38:37 PM  Show Profile  Send s.jade an AOL message  Click to see s.jade's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add s.jade to your friends list Send s.jade a Private Message
Wish I had now....you sure you don't fancy two colts, no honest, pleeeeaase take them LOL

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Annette
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Posted - 29 Mar 2009 :  9:50:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Annette to your friends list Send Annette a Private Message


When my lottery numbers come up.................
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