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bridie
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 United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 7:14:10 PM
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Judge orders return of donkeys and ponies
By Andy Carswell
ELEVEN donkeys and 18 Shetland ponies seized in an
RSPCA search are to be returned to the farm they were
taken from.
District Judge Sandeep Kainth today ruled at Oxford
Magistrates Court the animals should be returned to
Spindle farm, Chalk Lane, Hyde Heath after they were
seized following an RSPCA investigation into
allegations of animal cruelty.
The farm's owner, James Gray, had made a formal
application to have the animals returned.
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But the judge also ruled that around 80 horses that
were removed from the farm at the same time should be
sold. Currently the horses are in the care of the
RSPCA at various rescue centres, but district Judge
Kainth, said they must be sold at a market in
Henley-in-Arden, Warwickshire, next month.
A vet who examined the horses in January told the
court he was so concerned for their welfare he
recommended they should be removed from the farm.
But he added the donkeys and ponies appeared to be in
a "good condition."
Judge Kainth said: " These donkeys were never in any
danger. They are to be returned forthwith."
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Five people today pleaded not guilty to 12 charges of
animal cruelty. James Gray, 44, Julie Gray, 40, Jodie
Gray, 25, Cordelia Gray, 19, all of Spindle farm,
Chalk Lane, pleaded not guilty to causing unnecessary
suffering to protected animals between December 21
2007 and January 4 this year.
A teenager who can not be named for legal reasons also
pleaded not guilty to the charges. After pleading not
guilty to the charges they were granted unconditional
bail. They are to re-appear at Oxford Magistrates
court on April 28 for a pre-trial review.
6:14pm today
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paul_exe
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 7:17:00 PM
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What the F? Justice my arse!
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Get over yourself: You breathe, you fart, what makes you different?
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Tonim
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 7:23:42 PM
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OMG!!!!!!
I just can't believe that, poor things they will probably just end up in salami. I wonder if it includes that little donkey foal that was born that was pictured in all the national newspapers?!
As for selling the others at a market, why couldn't they stay with the rescue organisations? Who gets the money from the sale of them as well! The legal system in this country just really ***** me off. |
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Evie
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England
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 7:28:01 PM
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that's what I can say on the matter, because if I type what I really want to say I will no doubt be banned from this forum!!!!!!!! |
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natntaz
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England
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 7:53:52 PM
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Discusting, this country's courts are a joke  |
   
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Judith S
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ashabarab
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England
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 8:12:52 PM
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this is crazy...and they call it justice..it's a joke!
l feel sorry for the poor animals who go back..l would think the ones who are to be sold will get good homes as a lot of people will go to buy them, still would have been better to let the charity's home them..
anyone going?
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jaybird
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France
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 8:17:43 PM
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Hi Girls
It's absolutely disgusting!!! C'mon join me in France, only I'm not sure that France is perfect by a long way, only hoping!!
Beryl
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Red Rum
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England
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 9:57:09 PM
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 That's is disgusting. All the people who donated to the rescue of these animals (including myself) will be so annoyed, that we have helped the animals only for them to end up in the feed chain. There is no justice and it is no wonder people take the law into their own hands. |
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arabic
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England
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 10:12:54 PM
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CRAP!!! Should have at least been banned from ever keeping any animals again.
Whats the point of ever reporting anything to the authorities.
Now this sort of thing will be rife because its just been broadcast that if you do it - you can get away with it. B****y judge wants starving - as long as we feed his kids - wont matter grrrrrrrr!!! |
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jaj
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 10:28:18 PM
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It's just been on our local news, apparently the judge agreed to return some of the animals as they were pets and not considering likely to be subjected to any harm   . Dear god, how absolutely depressing is this outcome, there really is no hope if such a high profile case as this results in such a crappy outcome. God I'm angry .
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avanti
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Lin123
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England
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Posted - 04 Apr 2008 : 11:01:19 PM
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 Word fail me and soo angry and disgusted. Just what is this country coming to when innocent animals are the subject of such a ruling |
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Tahir
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Apr 2008 : 12:06:31 AM
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How bloody ridiculous. What exactly do these imbeciles have to do to an animal to be banned from keeping them. Maybe the judge took a 'back-hander'.
Makes me sooooooo angry!!!
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moatside
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Cryapakah
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Posted - 05 Apr 2008 : 08:38:30 AM
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We are 10mins from Henley and I have posted this on 2 local forums that we have in the area. Im hoping someone will go and get 1 or 2. Most of them will probably end up at slaughter. As most the ponies that go to Henley are sold to slaughter.
Our Apache was at Henley when his previous owner saw him sold to a slaughter guy and payed a fortune to save him. I hope the word gets out and around! If loads of people turn up then theres a chance for them.
I don't know if my mom would take on another :( |
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Pixie
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alethea
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delly-b
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Apr 2008 : 09:25:10 AM
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It beggers belief!
Just makes you wonder where the Judge is coming from. Either that or there were some very convinsing witnesses! I feel sorry for all the animals - just hope the ones going to the sale will be sold to good homes - doesnt bare thinking about :( |
       
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Suelin
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Posted - 05 Apr 2008 : 11:53:55 AM
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| Disgusting situation. What is puzzling me though is how this case was not deferred pending the outstanding trial. Surely if the case is not yet proved in law then this judgement is previous? |
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leezee26
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England
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Posted - 05 Apr 2008 : 12:05:07 PM
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| My God! Say it all, ITS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW ITS WHO YOU KNOW!!Leighx |
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Pixie
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Posted - 05 Apr 2008 : 12:11:04 PM
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| Good poiht Suelin. And if the case is proved - which i should be - then they will have to confiscate all the animals again! poor things. |
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ashabarab
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England
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Posted - 05 Apr 2008 : 12:39:00 PM
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is there no one we can write to?...an m p or something...surely this is not the outcome expected or wanted....
if this is the outcome for high profile cases why bother to even report them...nothing much is ever done..many people sent money or goods to help these horses it appears to have been a total waste of time..
yeah l am annoyed..and discusted..total fiasco!
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swalk
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Apr 2008 : 3:21:03 PM
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I just CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why has the judge ordered for the sale of the horses and who is going to end up with whatever amount they bring? I really am lost for words, who knows what these poor animals are going to go through next |
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