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DenmoorStud
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 Posted - 11 Jan 2008 : 11:11:47 AM
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Welcome to PBA Breeders thread Alistair, I think you will find the planned event will cover the criteria to which you refer.
AS I am sure you are aware most of the shows do not cater for the owner rider,whilst talking to a friend the event that used to take place at Wilton was mentioned, this is the embryo from which the Arab/Trakehner event is growing. Schedules will be available end of Jan. We are hoping everyone will support this event. |
   
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honey
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N. Ireland
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Posted - 12 Jan 2008 : 4:25:50 PM
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thankyou denmoor stud. I can't make any of the events due to having a little bit of water seperating me that costs extorcinate prices to cost. My homebred partbreds are up and coming with my first starting her showing career this year, shes done a few in hands and one that really credited her was as a foal reluctant to being told judges would laught at our "wee coloured partbred arab foal" and she got placed out of 42 foals and to this day remains the only coloured to ever been placed in all the years its been running, and people still ask us how that coloured foal is doing even though they haven't seen her in over four years. the other ones are under two so they have a few years yet. Its very hard promoting the arab over here as no one sees their potential for other than the show ring, i have reared two foals and sold them at four to comeptition horses in the last few years, and might i add one home particularly wanted a performance horse that could compete and also one that was quite enough to take a 50 year old novice/nervous rider out to pleasure rides and never thought they would be buying a 4 year old partbred arab, they are really promoting the breed well.
sorry for rambling on.
my stallions pedigree is crabbet/russian/polish.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/rocians
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 12 Jan 2008 : 7:39:40 PM
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Thanks Honey, Just going to look at your boys pedigree,yes it is rather sad that in general the PB is seen as a show
horse. We had a visit just the other day from someone who looked at our horses and commented, you breed Show Horses
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Hazel Cornes
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Feb 2008 : 3:51:15 PM
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| Just wondered whether any AA/PBA (and Pure) Stallion owners are entered for the PSHP Stallion Parade on Easter Monday 24 March 2008 at Moulton College? I do hope the "Arabs" are well represented. |
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DenmoorStud
Gold Member
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Posted - 27 Feb 2008 : 10:24:28 PM
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Hi there Hazel, I believe Finn Guinness is taking Persiflage Biddesden Studs AHS Nasta Performance tested AA stallion. IMO unless the PBA AHS stallions have duel grading there seems little point in taking them, as AHS grading
although more stringent than other societies is not taken seriously by sport horse breeders and not given enough promotion by our society. |
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Hazel Cornes
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Feb 2008 : 09:55:53 AM
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| I have just sent for my spectator ticket so will report back on "all" the AA/PBA that are there. The organisers are also going to relaunch The British Breeder Magazine and I should be getting a copy. |
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magicdreamarabians
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Finland
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Hazel Cornes
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Feb 2008 : 11:35:57 AM
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| Have you got his pedigree on Allbreeds, I couldn't bring it up? What do you do with your pba? |
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magicdreamarabians
Bronze Member
Finland
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Posted - 28 Feb 2008 : 3:13:41 PM
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I just added him to allbreed.
He's currently driven and started under saddle. He will start his showcareer hopefully this year.
Edited to say his full name is Magic Dream days Of Thunder.  |
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Edited by - magicdreamarabians on 28 Feb 2008 3:15:27 PM |
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Sahir
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 28 Feb 2008 : 9:10:52 PM
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| Did you know that Finn Guiness is taking Persiflage & a TB Stallion to the Stallion Parade being held at the Wessex Spring Show on 12th April at The Hand E.C. Clevedon nr Bristol, the parade is being run by and sponsored by The Monmouth Group. Stallions of all breeds will be taking part, so for all partbred & anglo enthusiasts make sure you come & visit (or better still take part) It should be a great day with some interesting stallions to consider using on your mares. |
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Hazel Cornes
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Mar 2008 : 10:25:12 AM
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| Sahir will there be a list published of the Stallions participating? |
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Sahir
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 01 Mar 2008 : 10:45:10 PM
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| Hello Hazel - not that I'm aware of - but maybe Denise can tell you, she is after all the Shows & Events committee member for the Monmouth Group who are organising the Stallion Parade. |
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Biscombe
New Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Mar 2008 : 10:45:48 PM
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| Hi have been reading with interest this thread on PBAs. We breed PBA ponies and I have to say so far, and luckily, with great success. Our ponies compete at national and county level but we do find that many show producers who have animals of PBA breeding do not seem to show them at the arab regional shows, steering away and favouring other breed societies and shows. It is a shame and quite honestly do not know the answer. One of our PBA fillies in particular, was Supreme of Show at the 2004 British National Foal of the Year, Res British Nat Champion (to her own mother) and last year was Res. Supreme Champ of Hack and RH section at The Royal. She has now been sold to start her ridden career and we could have sold her many times over. We do believe that producers now do not mind arab blood in their show horses and ponies and many compete in PBA/Anglo classes. However, where are they all at the regional and national Arab shows ?? Having had pure breds in the past we now find that demand outstrips whatever we have for sale and there are not many weeks go by without a call for a specific PBA animal.We advertise once a year in the NPS Yearbook which does the job, and so do other PBA breeders and yet few advertise in the AHS publications. We are wondering whether breeders find it useful ? So I think what I am trying to say is that for us, and I am sure many others, there is a market for good quality PBA and Anglo animals but a big divide between those that promote their animals through other channels because they do not feel the AHS supports them. Real shame. |
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knedo_stables
Junior Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 31 Mar 2008 : 11:17:59 PM
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Hi all,
We breed purebred and partbred.
We have at this moment two purebreds: a Gwizd-mare and her Marcipan daughter.
Partbred: A tobiano Neron-daughter (64% ox), her solid chestnut son, her tobiano daughter (both 82% ox). A tobiano-colt by Painted Diamond (92% ox) And a grey Nagasaki-daughter (50% ox)
Then we have a Friesian (0% ox  ) witch we want to breed to Aldebaran Ibn Amir to produce this type of 'Arabo-Friesian' foal.
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Cate
Platinum Member
Scotland
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 : 08:47:19 AM
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| What a super thread. I think some of this enthusiasm needs to be transported to Scotland....Arabs just dont seem to happen up here, not sure about the PBs, and if they do they're well hidden! |
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piaffe1
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 : 9:47:16 PM
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| I have pb stallion that I have covered one of our mares with for this year, foal due May so getting quite excited especially if its coloured too. |
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sammyd0380
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England
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knedo_stables
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Netherlands
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templars
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 09 Apr 2008 : 11:39:01 PM
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We're doing our bit to promote Arabs in the eventing world with Evie riding the pure bred Taragun and a couple more in the wings waiting to come out. We've just planned this year's breeding programme and as well as keeping true to the GSB breeding, we're aiming to breed part breds as well, choosing the sires purely on performance record.
We've just had a wonderful surprise though. We bought Evie a Dutch bred mare, graded sport pony in Holland and with a Dutch Welsh Pony and Cob passport. One dark and stormy night, Evie and I got bored and looked up her pedigree and got the shock of our lives - she's actually 40% Arab, 40% Welsh and 20% TB. We're thrilled to bits because now Evie can bring her to the Nationals and it means she has a pure and part bred pony to event!!
She's one heck of a little pony with unbelievable scope so we have high hopes for her this season but one thing for sure, we'll tell all our friends she's PBA!! |
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vjc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 : 09:35:48 AM
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firstly, hiya denise, and thanks for this debate their are a few people out there that have a very confused view of pure bred arabs because the only time they ever see one it is careering sidewards across the ring at a show! how can they know the versatily of the breed unless they see or read otherwise, so i suppose hence the reason some (and i mean some!) breeders that tap into the arab blood only to play down its role in their horses performance! Not me i love the arab influence and have crossed it again and again (with i would like to think great success) so surely in promoting the importance of part breds at every discipline you are also promoting the lovely purebred!!! |
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maromito
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Wales
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 : 10:14:56 AM
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I breed PRE ,Hispano Arabes and also have a 75% Arab Palomino colt by Icon,I started breeding Hispanos because of my love
of both parent breeds and although Hispanos are a breed in their own right it also means they are eligable for partbred classes ,I hope to begin showing the palomino this year,showing isnt something Ive done much of so will be begging for advice from all you seasoned showers,his dam is an australian import bought by my sister we were both shocked at the price of reregistering her here in the UK, when Ive got the knack of posting pictures I hope to post some of my horses |
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knedo_stables
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Netherlands
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Posted - 22 Apr 2008 : 07:41:36 AM
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Here some pics of our youngsters playing and racing ik the paddock.
Painted Destiny PD (Painted Diamond X Vjetka ox)
Casjino van Knedo (Djino ox X Casjmira van Knedo NRPS)
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 22 Apr 2008 : 11:32:46 AM
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| Hi everyone keep your eyes on the AL site as we have commissioned a banner to advertise the impending PERFORMANCE EVENT High Points championship Jnr and Snr. and much more |
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honey
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N. Ireland
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Posted - 22 Apr 2008 : 9:00:48 PM
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| very nice pba's i will get some recent pics of my youngsters and post them up and our two year old is a good natural jumper meter is nothing to her, so she will undoubtly be heading for a sj career as well as a show horse |
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sammyd0380
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