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pintoarabian
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Scotland
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 Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 9:10:19 PM
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| Yes, Denise, we do think the sportshorse route is the way to go, but only one of several possible ways. The showing scene for Anglos and part breds is quite healthy at the moment but there are many ways in which it could be further developed and strengthened. One of these is sportshorse promotion. Consideration could also be given to splitting classes by type eg show pony, riding horse type, coloured/palomino or even simply by percentage 50% and under Arabian blood/over 50% Arabian blood which would open the doors to many. There are a great many lovely part bred Arabian horses out there that never see the show ring because they do not fit the stereotype that judges favour. Just look at a typical line-up.....clones and anything different usually at the bottom! Let's think outside the box and be inclusive of all Arabian derivatives as that can only help to promote the breed and, after all, surely that is what we all should strive to do. Sadly, I feel that this kind of 'revolutionary' talk would shake some of the more vocal ,entrenched, traditionalists to the core of their being and they will resist any talk of change. Shift happens folks so we can either embrace it or be left behind. Do we want our Arabians to go from strength to strength or be sidelined by the more in vogue breeds? Just look at the non Arabian press and work out how much editorial comment comes the way of the pure, Anglo and part bred Arabian. Not a lot, eh? We need to work together though and not be divided by self interest and petty squabbling. |
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http://performancearabians.blogspot.com/
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 12:05:43 PM
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we need performance information in order to promote our partbreds
lets stand up and be counted. |
   
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cassy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 3:18:03 PM
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| can we arrange a show seminar with show prep/turnout for in hand and ridden, id pay to watch and bring a show mare along within reasonable travel for in hand |
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 06 Oct 2007 : 3:53:48 PM
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If a performance show were possible, what sort of classes would you like
to see included. Brain storming please |
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Naar
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Wales
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DenmoorStud
Gold Member
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Posted - 06 Oct 2007 : 4:22:41 PM
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Our own stallion is a graded perfomance tested AHS stallion and has
12.50% Arab blood the rest of his line is Trakehner. We are very pleased withhis stock, all have his wondeful attitude. And are dark in colour |
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Micky
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Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 2:52:58 PM
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| I didnt think you could do both hack and riding horse with the same animal. |
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sandstorm
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Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 5:53:56 PM
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Fairlyn gemini was entered into the Trakehner stud book ,he is an anglo arab, 50% arab 50% TB.
I believe his stock can also be reg into the Trakehner stud book as well.
Our Anglo BH ARIZONA is reg Anglo and reg sporthorse , his sire is Fairlyn Gemini and his dam is Miss Blandish she was a premium mare with the AHS, reg Anglo, reg with wetherbys stud book and graded.
We had 3 wonderfull sons from her  , we sadly lost her a couple of years ago at the age of 24.
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Dazzler
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 6:15:02 PM
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| I went into breeding part breds a couple of years ago - as I became very disallusioned with the purebred scene. I wish I hadnt bothered now! AHS will never recognise that part breds are worthy of anything. Its a shame but its the way it is. |
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Hazel Cornes
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 6:39:20 PM
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| Sandstorm would it be possible for you to add BH ARIZONA to the All Breeds Pedigree website 'cos I don't seem to be able to bring up the breeding. |
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Barabia
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Sweden
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Hazel Cornes
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 8:03:14 PM
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Thank you so much Bia for Shade's ped info, much appreciated and already filed away. Interestingly at the North Staffs AHS Autumn Show today, I saw a lovely mature foal (AA/PBA) waiting to enter a class and the handler said he was by Farouk who he said is a Crabbet stallion. The Crabbet is obviously the type of arab I like!
I took some pics of Antsar Eddie today at the show but I will have to read up how to put them on this site.
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Hazel Cornes
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 8:14:23 PM
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| There are restrictions on doing both Hack & Riding Horse classes affiliated to the British Show Horse Association. The relevant section is in the downloadable 2007 Rules under 2 E Change of Section. |
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pintoarabian
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Scotland
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 9:53:50 PM
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Tut Tut pinto you should know me better than that, I thought it might be an alternative , for the performance horse instead of the meaningless
term Partbred
Dazzler don't be disillusioned we are on the case!!
Barabia, do you know the where abouts of the Premium stallion El
Pendro, we seem to have lost track of him. |
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Barabia
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Sweden
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lynette
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 09:04:18 AM
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I think you may mean El Prendero
My love is Anglo Arab and we have father and son. Dubloon Blue (Blue Lucius x Brilliant Newcomer) is now coming up 22 but still competes show jumping and cross country. I use to do Endurance with him and he really is an all round horse. His son Chapeloak Sovereign Jubilee who is 5 is the British National Senior Male Reserve Champion and is just about to embark onto jumping events. We love them for their sheer versiltility. |
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sandstorm
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Chris James
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United Kingdom
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Hazel Cornes
Silver Member
United Kingdom
288 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 8:58:54 PM
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Oh Chris! Can we pretend it's me in the saddle and not Sarah!
I will definitely have to learn how to post pics now - remember I've got pics of you showing Eddie as a foal at Malvern & Uttoxeter and that was 14 yrs ago!
A red faced thank you very much. |
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guisburn
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 9:27:33 PM
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We have a lovely liver chestnut PBA colt foal by Champion Riding Pony Stallion Willowcroft Regal Bronze, who looks to be a future sire himself - he is out of our purebred mare Guisburn Shazehra (Res World Champ Crusader - Shimsha) There is a picture of him shown at a couple of hourse old on our website link below - We hope to use our stallion Hussain Crusader/Heloua on a thoroughbred mare or two in 2008 !!
Melanie
Guisburn Stud
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brynmarli
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Wales
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 : 10:17:39 AM
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Hi I have just read some of the comments on pure arab and the part-bred and from what I can see is that everyone breeding, showing, ridding etc an AA/PBA just wants to be recognised by the AHS for having a top class, versitile horse. Perhaps its about time all breeders/owners of PBA/AA should get together with one objective TO MAKE PEOPLE IN THE HORSE WORLD REALILISE HOW MANY PBA'S ARE OUT THEY DOING REALLY WELL.
Because if you dont follow breed lines you dont actual know that a horse/pony is PBA. I went up to HOYS and watched the riding horse classes no mention of PBA.
We need to get PBA/AA out there in the face of the horse world people.
I have an Anglo doing really well, went up to Lincoln for the British riding club champs, did really well came 8th in my dressage class. But unless I told/shouted from the roof tops, he's an AA no one knew.
Its a real shame and if breeders want to get recognised for breeding animals that can do exactly "what it says on the tin" I feel you need to get together and DO IT!
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 14 Oct 2007 : 10:19:26 AM
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Thankyou all for your input, could I ask you to post on AL each time one of you has sucess, this information
will if correlated will enable us to promote to a wider circle |
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Gemma
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Oct 2007 : 6:43:00 PM
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If you look at the Endurance section, you'll see I usually post after a ride, good or bad! I think some people will probably be getting sick of hearing our escapades, but I never tire of how well my PBA is doing.
We do need to sing the praises of our fantastic part-breds as there are many out there doing a variety of jobs, and doing them with great panache! |
 
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Snowdrop
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England
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Posted - 14 Oct 2007 : 9:02:20 PM
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While on the subject of Part breds... does anyone know anyone who breeds Hispano Arabs? Arabs will always be my first love but for my line of work I need something a bit bigger/chunkier (owners of big chunky Arabs please don't hit me!!) and I would love an Arab x Andalucian. You don't see many of them in this country though, and I think they will become more popular as the Hispanic popularity rises. So if anyone has a spare 20,000 and wants another stallion you could do worse than get yourself an Andalucian!  Especially one that throws blacks... they are worth an absolute FORTUNE and I want a discount on your first colt because I gave you the idea!!! |
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