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Athena
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England
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  10:26:04 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message
OK ladies, stallions - the problem as usual being that I am better at horses that people and locations!

Those with actual Courthouse /Nuhra connections:
Spearmint 1982 (Shammar /Sappho) - 100% Courthouse & hopefully available by AI from Jane's Al Waha Stud
Shimnar (Samhan /Atrisha) 1982 - Courthouse /Nuhra breeding via Barton Lodge - foals in last studbook but do not know if still alive & available now
Zalim (Bayazar /Zareen) 1983 - Courthouse /Nuhra breeding via Barton Lodge - still available & fertile
Shalkar (Mehneer /Sherasa) 1986 - proven performance stallion of Crabbet /Courthouse /Nuhra lines - seen progeny very recently but do not know where he is at stud
Khairho (Zourrak /Kasbana) 1985 - proven endurance stallion of Crabbet /Courthouse /Nuhra lines from great Kazra family - owned by late Cheryl Logan - Jan Clarke will know where he is now if no-one on this thread does

Hope others here can help with locations on some of these.

More to follow later - got to dash to RDA. Alexia
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nikki
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Wales
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  12:08:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
Shalkar is no longer with us

Wheres Zalim? would love to use him.

pagey
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MinHe
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England
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  1:32:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Originally posted by Vygoda

All tests done for Spearmint (and Narim) to go to the AI Centre middle of this month.

Fingers crossed everyone please that he freezes (due to his age) though he is still very fertile.

Will keep you updated and put a banner on here too.

Jane



Fingers well-crossed, Jane (difficult to type ) - if everything goes OK, will they be available chilled as well as frozen? (Eek - sounds like Sainsbury's, LOL!)

Keren
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Barabia
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Sweden
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  3:04:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
All fingers crossed in Sweden Jane!!

Bia

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kastell
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France
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  3:32:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kastell to your friends list Send kastell a Private Message
Hi again, didn't the Archers have a filly by Shabako? If so, have they bred from her? I understand that Shabako didn't have much Old English stock? Any ideas what happened to Naraan? Does anyone have contact details for Loretta McKechnie, to see if she kept the Colt entire?

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Lila
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Netherlands
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  8:50:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message
Alexia, What happened to the bay crabbet stallion you were going to use??
Monique

M. Lankhaar
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Athena
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England
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  9:25:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message
Originally posted by kastell

Hi again, didn't the Archers have a filly by Shabako? If so, have they bred from her? I understand that Shabako didn't have much Old English stock? Any ideas what happened to Naraan? Does anyone have contact details for Loretta McKechnie, to see if she kept the Colt entire?


Yes, the filly by Shabako from Indian Moondust is now a liver chestnut mare called Indian Shimmer - she this year had a colt foal by Imad who has been sold to Sweden. He is her first foal. The mare is still owned by Rosemary and Elizabeth Archer so we can expect her to have more foals, however. Watch this space.

Shabako died young unfortunately and left very few foals and even fewer of all Old English lines.

Naraan I believe died a few years ago although I could not swear to it. He also had very few foals and most of those he did have were exported. His owner unfortunately felt unable to take on visiting mares although asked a couple of times shortly after the Crabbet Convention here in the UK.

I do have a very old email address for Loretta (as of the Crabbet Convention in 2002) so I will try it and see if I get a response - will report back. Alexia
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Athena
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England
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  9:28:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message
Originally posted by Lila

Alexia, What happened to the bay crabbet stallion you were going to use??
Monique


Hi Monique, I'm afraid I have finally given up. Another bad year for me with a bad foaling and spending rather a lot of money to get the other mare in foal - I ended up unable to pursue loaning Golden Khayyam (the bay Ranadi son). As he is already 21 years old, unlicensed and never used, I think I have finally decided that I am unable to add him to my list of projects. He is alive and well but probably a lost cause now genetically. It is a shame. Alexia
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sayeeda
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England
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 :  08:53:03 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sayeeda to your friends list Send sayeeda a Private Message
Ok ladies here how it goes, First of all i really need to read up on the breeding of my mare because you are all reeling off stallions and Courthouse and Old English and i really have know idea its so embarrasing!!!
I would really love to breed of Sayyida next year as i havent done it this year!
So if you have stud names to go with all these stallions it would be much appreciated.
Also i would like to say Spearmint is one awesome looking stallion!

Alexia hope you had a good weekend break.
Nikki i will e mail you today im so busy at work its a nightmare

Claire x
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nikki
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Wales
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 :  3:00:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
Such a shame about Golden Khayyam Alexia, still got my fingers xcd for good news for you.


Clare, hurry up with that e-mail, do you still have the list i gave you of what books you may find useful, plus go on e-bay and get as many old ahs news as you can, theres an article in some about the Barton Lodge Stud.
Shame you didn't breed Sayyida this year

pagey
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Athena
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England
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 :  9:29:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message
Hi folks, will get to stud directories and trying to find contact details for some of these stallions - just a bit rushed right now. More later honest. Alexia
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Athena
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England
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 :  9:31:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message
Originally posted by nikki

Such a shame about Golden Khayyam Alexia, still got my fingers xcd for good news for you.



Thanks Nikki - just got a positive 100 day blood test - Narishka is still pregnant at the mo & apparently foal has grown on well so far! Alexia
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kastell
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France
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Posted - 06 Oct 2007 :  09:50:42 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kastell to your friends list Send kastell a Private Message
Hi, Alexia you sound like you are a very busy lady! What a shame about Golden Khayyam, it would be a shame to loose his lines, is there anything I or anyone else can do to help? I don't know the proceedures in licencing a stallion, is it exspensive, I'm assuming his situation is complicated?

Claire.

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Vygoda
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United Arab Emirates
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Posted - 26 Oct 2007 :  3:34:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vygoda to your friends list Send Vygoda a Private Message
We are over the moon after worrying!! The AI station where Spearmint and Narim are, have said it's unheard of that that 2 old boys (25 and 27 respectively) have such a good % sperm count when unfrozen. It was worth the gamble sending them .

We are soooo happy!
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JanC
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Oct 2007 :  4:08:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JanC to your friends list Send JanC a Private Message
Dear Jane

I had the pleasure of riding a Spearmint daughter the other day - known as Nimbus but I believe registered as "Nudgee", out of Nowra. She was a bit of a grump tacking up, but a lovely mare to ride, very forward going with a beautiful swinging walk, comfortable trot and a pretty fast canter going the round the fabulous grass headlands near Newton Valence where she lives.

Jan
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Jinubi Arabians
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England
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Posted - 27 Oct 2007 :  3:53:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jinubi Arabians to your friends list Send Jinubi Arabians a Private Message
Dear All
Ishmaan (Donax x Jaala Sbeyel) is still available to limited mares as he will 25 years old next year. He is 100% English lines and the tail female line is the Lady line and we can trace back to Nuhra, Skowronek, Nasemto name a few! If anyone is interested in his pedigree please email me directly and I will happily supply photos and an extended pedigree. He produced Luhka now owned by NUT.
ZB
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tamila
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England
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Posted - 28 Oct 2007 :  08:19:50 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tamila to your friends list Send tamila a Private Message
Ishmaan is lovely. I saw him last year and was still of the same mind. Lovely mover with a wonderful temperament and, of course, fantastic bloodlines. His mum Jaala Sybeyel was the epitome of an arab mare.

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nikki
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Wales
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Posted - 30 Oct 2007 :  3:02:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
There is a cracking looking colt for sale on here by Spearmint out of Silver Safiah. Going back to the Nuhra line-he looks super!

pagey
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