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MinHe
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Azara
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Dixiedarlin007
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 Posted - 17 Jun 2007 : 12:07:38 AM
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My gelding is an Iberian Warmblood...a Percheron Andalusian, and I thought I read when researching the breed they had just a smidge of Arab blood in there somewhere. Good research, Minhe! Here is a pic of him. Cat
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Azara
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BobandEna
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Posted - 17 Jun 2007 : 11:13:54 PM
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Hi,
You may enjoy looking at these Iberian horse. BETTER VIEWED AS A SLIDE SHOW
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobandena/sets/72057594135503470/
The Spanish seek to breed NOBLE horse and here in Andalucia there are thousends of them, but at this time the Iberian Arabian cross is very popular, I have shown this one before but this is what the Hispo Arabs are famous for
It brings a new meaning to the words SPORT HORSE for they are fantastic.
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Dixiedarlin007
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 01:20:30 AM
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| Azara, He is also an Iberian Warmblood, and can only be registered as such becuase to join the Spanish Norman registry, both parents must be registered with the Percheron and Andalusian registries. I spoke to the gentleman only two weeks ago, and he was adamant (and unfortunately not very polite) that I did not own a Spanish Norman because his Sire is not registered. SO, yes he IS a Spanish Norman, but not registereable as such, and he is registered as an Iberian warmblood, which is a cross of Spanish breeds with a draft. I sure wish I could register him as a Spanish Norman....there are VERY few of them in the states....I think only around 700. Thank you very much, yes he is gorgeous but can be quite a handful at 4 years old and 1500 lbs! Catharine |
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Aztec Arabians
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 06:39:45 AM
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Hi Bob and Ena, hope you are well. The jerez slideshow looks great.
Don`t like the Bull fighting pics although they show how athletic the horses are.
Do you know the dates for the 2007 event or has it already passed?
Would love to go. Is there lots of dressage to see or is it more of a parade? Really wanna see these horses doing their dressage in Spanish traditional costume.
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Azara
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Arabian Girl
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 11:33:49 AM
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WOWi didnt realise what i had started with this topic,,bob and edna fantastic foto....... |
   
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BobandEna
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 8:34:02 PM
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Hi Deno,
Nice to hear from you, I posted the bull ring photo's not to advertise Bull Fighting, but to Promote the Hispano-Arabian, I can't begin to explain how good they are and I feel the public's conception of Bull fighting is keeping the qualities of these horses unrecognised, SHAME.
Garrocha: is correct, what we in the UK call our "C" shows are called SICAB here, they have all the SHOW type classes and are very popular.
The Horse Feria's are different, in that they have more to offer the public, A massive Fair, a Massive Park for parading your horses and showing off, this starts after the day's showing and display's and when the Big exhibition hall has closed, It runs all night and usually ends about 4am and that's for six nights, one needs to see that park at night with all those millions of light lit, FANTASTIC.
The bad news Deno mate is, the next one in Jerez is next May, usually the second week, and this follows the Auction or Sabasta at the Military farm called Cortijo Visco. Deono you would have a beno with your camara. but here are some not so good one's I took
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobandena/sets/1292590/show/
If you or anyone from AL want to come next year, then please let me know, I would be delighted to organise everything for you, even Arabian Stud visits.
My regards to Anne
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suneanarab
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 : 11:41:17 AM
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i had forgotten about this post but just found it again while looking for something else.
having been miquel and julia alemany-bird for classical training i had the best time discussing all this with miquel who r=till a couple of years ago was the top judge in the country for andalusians untill he retired from it. he has a hugh collection of books all about how the andalusian was bred and how the breed has progressed. there was no mention ever in any of them regarding the arabian being used with the breed. miquel is a great authority on the breed and will adimently state that there is no arabian blood in the analusian.
we have been to several studs in the country looking at stallions for a mare who we sadly lost last year. they are all of the same opinion.
however, in my never ending quest for knowledge and truth can you send me a copy of any data that really shows where the arabian blood was brought in to the breed? i'd also like to show it to miquel to get his opinion of it all.
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Aztec Arabians
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 : 12:07:44 PM
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Hiya Bob and Ena,
Soz mate, only just caught up with this thread again, thanks for your reply.
We would really love to come over to an event like this and make a holiday of it. That would be great. I heard there was something similar involving Andalusians doing dressage at a big festival in Jerez. Do you know when that is???
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Sue J
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 : 12:14:00 PM
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I visited a large 4 day show in Spain last year. It was near Murcia at a very large exhibition centre, but I can't now remember the name of the venue and I gave the catalogue to my dressage trainer who has two Andalusion stallions.
Although we attended the show on an in-hand day it was fascinating to watch, seeing around 30 mature stallions lined up very close together and so well behaved was amazing. Also the handlers were all dressed in tradional costume. What a spectacle, only thing was we didn't really understand what was going on so would love to go with someone who does. Unfortunately we were coming home the next day so didn't get to see any ridden classes but saw some of the ridden stallions being exercised. It was gobsmacking to watch. 
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BobandEna
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 : 1:08:37 PM
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Hi All
Just for now here is the link to ANCCE the Spanish association that does the shows. Lots to look at here
http://www.ancce.es/index_eng.php
Deno, mate I will come back to you later with the Jerez details.
Hi Anneeeee
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spyros
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 : 1:19:36 PM
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Have not read the whole link, this year following the Arab Nationals, on the Saturday & Sunday the Andalusian Nationals are taking place at Hartbury college not far from the Malvern Show ground so all those who are at Malvern may wish to pop along to Hartbury, we will be showing our andalusian for the 1st time so running between both shows. Suzanne Cruise
Peter Maddison Greenwell has beautiful horses and demonstrates spainish riding including Doma Vaquera and Doma Clasica very interesting to watch, he does have a website may be worth looking at to find out about demonstrations near you.
Oh forgot something else the World Equitation Games is going to be held at Hartbury this year with Lusitanos & Andulsians alike competing from all over the world. We will be off to watch. |
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Arabian Girl
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 : 10:57:53 PM
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| Spros .. thank you for that .. and thats what i will do,,can you keep me posted about that ,,usually i go riding in the Malvern HIlls but i might come and watch this instead,,,can you elaborate a little more of what it is about as i am very muched intrigued about this breed ,,thank you spyros for posting,, i will be attending the Nationals too |
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Donna Irons
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 : 11:59:35 PM
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I think this tread is great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the Iberian, I KNOWN I DONT MAKE HALTERS FOR THEM, I KNOW THEY ARE SUPOSSED TO MEAN NOTHING TO ME , BUT, I feel ' .........dixiedarlin007'
not you personally ( sorry)but your horse has the most fantastic head and bum I have seen in along time !!!!!!!!!!!! And yes this is not for you Arabs this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!( as you all have great bums and heads )but for that one photo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, This may or not be your scene. but if you can breed bums and thights like that you can not go wrong.( this is now for both , this is where the strenght is, if it has no bum there is no horse, and I am Sorry but it will always be the IBERIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. but the theory stil lholds true ' no bum no horse! same as no feet no horse!!! if a horse cannot sit on his bum he cannot carry his rider correcty
Sorry Slate me if you will.
I feel like I have opened a real hornets nest here.
'''''''sorry.''''' please be kind for I dont normally speak my mind on these matters
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Cate
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Posted - 06 Jul 2007 : 01:01:50 AM
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Love the thread and the photos. My little Hispano Arab mare looks nothing like the athletic fellow dodging the bull! All the same we love her. She has a great temperament and is the most comfortable ride. Only thing she is top mare in the herd, so tends to hammer the others if they get in her way, and give me vets bills,so she is kept on her own. Dont know how to post the photos, but she has gone from a young mare with a black mane and tail and an odd pink/brown colour to now at 10 years a beautiful heavily red fleabitten grey with a white mane and tail.
I just cannot get the hang of putting photos on this forum otherwise I would. |
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Arabian Girl
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Posted - 06 Jul 2007 : 01:22:20 AM
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Hi ... what a great thread this has turned out to be I am on -line at this unearthly hour because, my house alarm is sounding off, i think we had a power cut and i carnt turn the darn alarm off |
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spyros
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Posted - 06 Jul 2007 : 10:18:34 AM
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Hi Arabian Girl
If you email directly on mobile@cruisecontrolpa.com I will forward a schedule to you, I do not know how to email through Arabianlines it never works for me. If anyone knows how to up load a picture I would love to post one of our horse Taranto perhaps someone would mind doing it for me or talk me through it. Thank you Suzanne
For anyone who is interested at the Andalusian Nationals they have dressage to music in fancy dress, which is fantasic with top studs showing their beautiful horses with talented dressage riders on board, the costumes were stunning last year loved every minute, one word of warning though everything goes on until late the Spanish do not run to time. |
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Arabian Girl
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Posted - 08 Jul 2007 : 12:42:00 PM
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Hello all,,,,,i have a little more interst in this breed now, but why do i get Hispanos, andalusians,and iberian horses classed similar????or are they not at all similar |
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