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Judith S
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Bebely
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 Posted - 03 May 2007 : 12:46:20 PM
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Judith
There's a nice chapter on longlining in Kelly Marks' "perfect partners". I found it quite clear and has helpful photographs.
The round pen is perfect for introducing long lines because if you get in a muddle and drop the lines you can just quietly pick them up again and carry on.
I had an IH associate come and help me and give me a lesson the first time and I have taped that. I can't copy it at the moment as all my stuff is being packed up but if I get it back together again in a few weeks then I could make a copy if you think it would be of any help. |
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ACGODFREY
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Posted - 03 May 2007 : 12:59:24 PM
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Bev,
Just a thought, but you didn't accidentally brush his quarters with your leg when you swung your right leg over, did you? Sounds like this probably was not the case but just wondered. I was told by a professional that getting on and off a youngster is the time most likely to cause problems, and to always rub their bum/quarters just before getting on, or when leaning over, and also when getting off, just so they are aware of that part of their body and so not to give them too much of a fright if you accidentally touch them with legs. Also make sure the girth is done up tight enough to ensure the saddle doesn't end up sitting skew. Again seems logical but this was a problem for a friend's horse who although a massive hunter, is very sensitive to changes in weight distribution and kept broncing her off when she tried to get on...not good when 17.3hh Good luck with him...when you finally get on without any bother you will be so chuffed.
My boy (rising 4) was backed in September then turned away until early April when I started lunging, taking him for walks inhand etc. I progressed to getting on on saturday via the leggy up from helper and leaning over for a long time before sitting up, and then on tuesday managed to get on from a mounting block without assistance. He was brilliant and I am so proud of him. He didn't really want to bother moving after that, but better than than tearing off It is quite educational to have to mount/dismount so quietly if you are used to an older, more experienced horse. I can hop on and off my older boy (11) and am usually the 'gate opener' out on hacks due to his comparative small size, and have had to really slow down the whole process to make my wee boy feel ok with it.
I would love to hear how others are getting on with the backing/breaking process as so much advice can be gained this way as most of the babies will probably behave in quite a different way.
Judith, sorry for hijacking your thread. I think you will find backing your mare one of the most rewarding things that you have ever done.
Anne
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darcy
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Posted - 04 May 2007 : 10:19:03 AM
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hi there
i am backing my 4 year old at the moment. i got the brilliant emma maxwell to give me a session on long reining and now i am able to take her for walks etc.
we have sat on her and can walk and have had a small trot!! However like others she can get a little nappy and stand still ... refusing to move!!
good luck - its well worth it
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 04 May 2007 : 10:40:14 AM
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I have always backed my own, I am of the old school and my methods are simple, take it one day at a time, only go forward to the next step once they are happy with the last one, Never end on a bad note!, make each lesson last a short time and lengthen as they progress, its easy once you have their trust, but nigh on impossible if you upset them!if all else fails (call for HELP ) I never found I could learn anything from a book, far too complicated for me |
   
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pat1
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Posted - 08 May 2007 : 09:56:47 AM
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| I have Richard Maxwell's book 'From Birth to Backing' it's really informative ! |
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Judith S
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 : 7:06:39 PM
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Update!
Our next door neighbours daughter is back home from Aus till July....shes an AI, worked in the UK, USA & now Aus - in many different equine disciplines.......
She came to visit today & shes going help me back Maj........her speciality is breaking/backing & she loves Arabs!! (she fell for Rameed - & has done lots of stud work - which could be handy when we start covering!).
She is also going to sort out the mounting probs I have with Ginger & shes going to get her going again for me to be confident in riding her out again.
She does some Parelli/Monty Roberts etc....has studied & uses parts she has found to suit her & her way of working with neds.
We start on Monday!
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Coloured_Arabs
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 : 7:09:18 PM
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| Good Luck, hope it all goes well. I always find it very exciting and rewarding starting new horses |
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Judith S
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Jenni5
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 : 8:22:03 PM
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There is a book out called something like " born to backing" so that might help. I keep seeing it in these leaflets you get with horse magazines and such.
Hope you find they way that suit you to back Maj
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 03 Jun 2007 : 8:15:53 PM
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Hi Judith - from your comments on the delectable Maj it seems she has inherited her mother's air of self-importance! She was always a very accepting filly - bright, could think her way through anything so i am sure that with her on your side it looks set to be a beautiful partnership. Laura is showing her half sister (anglo, by Hipu Who) and, though she has ner moments, she has that star quality which wins you over, even when you're none too pleased...
Anyway, as your post was some time ago I bet you're on board by now! Sounds like you have a good ground-person too which will boost your confidence also.
In terms of setting good foundations at breaking-in stage common sense needs to apply - routine, consistency, reward, time etc - I am sure you will be fine. We all have our faves/hates - avoid mouthing bits, lozenge link aurigan bits are a thing we could not live without, avoid making mounting an issue with youngsters, give a treat to encourage them to move their jaw and tongue, always have voice commands well established to support you once on board. I am sure once she is hacking out and enjoying the world you can readdress the loading issue. If in doubt, act like it's nothing out of the ordinary and I bet she won't so much as flick an ear!
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Judith S
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Posted - 03 Jun 2007 : 8:26:01 PM
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Here she is Sue - taken earlier this year - I think shes FAB!!!
Sue - yes - she is full of her own self importance - shes the MOST important, intelligent neddy here....according to her! |
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Honey Monster
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Posted - 07 Jun 2007 : 4:47:53 PM
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Nerys also worked Ginger under saddle again & she is going well. I am to be given lessons on her Nerys has decided (shes an AI) on Ginger - on the lunge......now that will be a first in 40 years of riding the last lessons I had were in PC way back in about 1974 I will be banning OH taking piccies
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Please please don't ban piccies - would love to see
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Judith S
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Posted - 07 Jun 2007 : 4:58:52 PM
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Judith S
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Posted - 10 Jun 2007 : 7:42:55 PM
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Maj - 2nd day of backing....Nerys takes things very steadily, sensibly & boy can she "read" horses....I'm learning so much just watching her! She uses lots of NHS & some Parelli - has taken the bits from each that she is comfortable using - shes very highly qualified & is making a name for herself where she now is in Australia - she works at a large TB stud & she does all the breakers & rides them on....the neighbour over the road from the stud is one of the Australian Olympic Riders & shes just asked Nerys to ride her horses!!!! That was after she bought a youngster that Nerys had broken in!!
You can see in the photo Maj wasn't all that sure "what" was going on ! Two days after shes going brill!!! Has had the weekend off & tomorrow work starts again. Saying that - Jane (she looks on here - but has never posted!!!) McTimmoney Chiro checked her over on Saturday & sorted out a few niggles - so she should be OK for work tomorrow!
Also tomorrow Nerys wants to ride Ginger out - so I will ride Rowan for company............thats weather permitting - they are forecasting thunderstorms for here tomorrow! |
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Judith S
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 : 4:04:44 PM
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Evie
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 : 6:30:59 PM
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| Is the link to a video Judith? I can't view videos on my pc at work :( |
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Honeyb060674
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 : 6:51:38 PM
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Sounds like you found a real star to help you out there Judith. Its great to hear and see your progress....keep up the piccies! Maj looks fantastic (I can't see the video either! ) |
      
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jacki
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 : 9:17:16 PM
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i use a happymouth snaffle which i will ride in and he mouths in about 5 mins!
To long rein is quite easy use 2 lunge reins put the outside one over the neck and saddle use lots of voice and slowly steer around the schoool then add transistions and obsticals.
get led arond with foot in stirrup leaning then when you are both ready get your leg over (sorry souunds rude) if your happy to move off do if not stroke neck shoulders and bum then dismount.
Definatly do it yourself if you can and if you can master the long reigning it really helps when your on top as the horse knows how to turn and (my favorite) STOP.
Good luck keep us posted
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janet
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 09:57:57 AM
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| Hi, I have found this topic useful as I got my first Arab last year,now got foal at foat and just starting to mouth her. Does anyone know if it is best to put bridle on or carry on with bit attached to headcollar. All this is new to me, she is easy to handle and very laid back. She is 7years old, not had much done however son has sat on her bareback and she hasn't flinched. |
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Evie
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 1:59:08 PM
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Hi Judith,
don't have a pc at home at the moment, but should hopefully be getting a laptop at the weekend so should be able to have a look at the vids next week! |
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