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moldequine
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 Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 7:21:28 PM
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| 4 of them we know who they are, helona stud has 2, i have 1 and adara arabians has bint naterlie |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 7:25:12 PM
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| my mare is probably not one of the ones which were sold in brightwells as she only bought two fillies back and my mare came from beeston and mr savage so i wonder what other mares pegi had that didnt go through brightwells. |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 7:38:43 PM
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| Don't you think that Gerry could have sold some at Beeston & Mr savage might have bought them there in 1998. |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 7:50:26 PM
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| These could have been the remaining 12 horses as these horses bred foals for pegi, they are Casi jabask, jabask spinner, eccomi and khemos lady. Any info on coloures and year they were born? |
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Rozy Rider
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 8:04:20 PM
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I didnt buy my mare untill 2005 so they must have been passed through dealers for years, mollie may have kept them for a while after 1998 sale before getting rid of them and then mr e s jones kept them and fattened them up and they went from dealer to dealer |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 8:14:03 PM
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| Just had a brainwave, i bought a sec d colt off a dealer near me (well rescued him as he was half starved) and she had a bay arab stallion there which she had bought from beeston and was selling him. he was about 17 at the time. this was about 2 or 3 years ago. the dealer was called sarah preston and she lives in sealand. maybe this was bo jabask or consummate jabask. |
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bridie
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 9:04:23 PM
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I have to say all this is SO SAD.......it makes me so angry that these poor horses were left to this fate while the owner/breeder lived it up in Quatar or wherever it was she ran away to.
We are only dealing with 30 ish horses from this sale BUT what happened to the other ......what would it be 80 or 90!!!
Its not like she went away and left a few is it?
There was about 110-120 horses at the stud.
WHY cant the AHS registration department help just a little bit? they must know which of these horses is still around or atleast which ones got transferred ownership.
Im just so relieved that we know a few of them are still here......how bloody sad all this is.
MOLDEQUINE......please tell us more about the bay stallion as they particularily have been preying on my mind, is there any way we can try to trace him?
IM OFF TO COOL DOWN NOW |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 9:32:13 PM
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| I just remember sarah preston having a pure bred bay arab stallion at her yard and she used to buy horses off kieth jones, i know someone who may know her. will send her an email and see. |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:00:18 PM
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Is Lady Bethany 1988 Grey Mare, bred a grey colt foal in 1994, still in the frame??????..maybe she bred others later...
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Is this the one that Helona's got, 1997 Grey mare Jabask Al Khora AHSB* 30312(Secret Partner/Jacici) & was sold at malvern sale on 10.9.98. |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:06:55 PM
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Yes jabask al khora is helonas. Sian said Lady bethany got sold way before they moved so she is probably in a nice home somewhere. |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:12:25 PM
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| Just got email back from the girl i know and she actually bought this stallion and is in a very good home now he is called shimmering czar though not the ones we are looking for. |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:19:35 PM
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So did helona register Al Khora or was she done before...
Lady Bethany bred a foal in 1994, did they move in 1996. |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:38:26 PM
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| already registered but helona had no papers given to her |
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Annette
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:38:58 PM
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Bridie I have to say I agree with you about this sad situation. I have been angry about these horses' fate for the last nine years and angrier still at the people who put them in this position. What on earth were all these horses being bred for anyway when there so obviously was very little market for the majority of them. And the stallions yes, I wonder what happened to them, they were beautiful boys and sold for peanuts, £420 for Consummate Bask and £400 for Bo Jabask. Why why why were they all sent to an auction with no reserve on theiir heads? These horses deserved better from their breeder
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Annette
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:43:49 PM
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| In this weeks Horse and hound page 125 there is a 4year old dark bay mare by TC Jabaskman for sale in North Wales. |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 11:01:36 PM
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| yes she is out of sondas jabask, one of the mares! |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 11:22:13 PM
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| another mare owned by pegi is jabask sycrarah, can anyone find out her colour and age and colour and age of eccomi, also mc deerwood justa. casi jabsk is grey born in 1992 a bit young for my mare i think but possible. Khemos lady is bay born in 1990 and jabask spinner bay 1989. |
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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 11:24:14 PM
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| Does anyone know how adara arabians came to get her mare, bint naterlie? |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 11:44:23 PM
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The folks with the filly for sale in North Wales rang me today, she's Sondas Vienna.a 4 year old & still for sale..
Khemoa Lady 1990 - Bay.
Jabask Spinner 1989 - Bay.
Jabask Sabrina 1986 -Bay.
Caera Lleyn Arabella - 1994 - Grey.
Esme Jabask 1994 - Bay.
Ecologic 1991 - Chestnut.
from Mandy's earlier list...which includes. 2 Grey Mares 1991 & 1992
Secret Dewiza & Casi Jabask.
nothing on Eccomi
Mandy's Listing from earlier.
DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY OF THESE HORSES?
Jabask Marhara-1993 bay colt by TC Jabaskman x Jabask Sabrina
Not in Stud Book-1994 bay colt by Bo Jabask x MC Lady Misteri
Not in Stud Book-1994 bay colt by Consummate Bask x jabask Sabrina
Not in Stud Book-1994 Grey colt by Bo Jabask x Lady Bethany
Nothing found relating to JASEPHA ch filly 1994.
Jabask Azzeme-1995 bay colt by BO Jabask x Sondas Jabask
Jabask Elzara-1996 grey filly by Secret Partner x Jacici
Jabask Azar-1996 grey colt by Secret Partner x MC Natalie Jabask
Not in Stud Book-1996 grey filly by Estamera x Bint Natalie
Jabask Faheilan-grey colt or filly? by Estamera x MC Lady Misteri
No foal reg in 1996- by Secret Partner x Jabask Spinner
Jabask Challenger-1996 grey c by Secret Partner x MC Madchens Jabask
Not in Stud Book- 1997 grey filly by Estemera x Jabask Sycarah
Jabask al Khora-1997 grey filly by Secret Partner x Jacici
Secret Legend-1997 grey filly by Secret Partner x Justa Legend
Jabask Comet-1997 bay filly by BO Jabask X Sondas Jabask
Jabask Amira-1997 grey filly by Estemera x MC Lady MIsteri
Not in Stud Book-1998 bay/grey filly by Secret Partner x MC Natalie Jabask
Kadaka-1998 bay/grey colt by Estemera x MC Lady Misteri
Secret Heart-1998 grey colt by Secret Partner x Justa Legend
Cant find any offspring from Consummate Bask, BO Jabask or Estemera after 1998.
Cant Find Jabask Sycarah in stud book.
NOW..........EXPORTED TO QATAR in 1996
Jabask Azzalea
Jabask Esteeme
Jabask Lady
Jabask Magenta
Jabask Sadreen.
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also might be of interest:
Khemos Lady bay 1990. she had in 95 a bay filly Jabask Lady by Bo Jabask and in 1996 a grey filly Jabask Perlana by Estemera.
Jabask Spinner bay mare 1989 dam of Jabask Azzalea exp.
Jabask sabrina bay mare 1986 dam of Jabask Sadreen colt.
Cara Jabask 1993 bay filly by Bru Bet Seradro x Jacici
1991 grey filly Secret Dewiza. by secret Partner x NA Discreta
1992 grey filly Casi Jabask. by BO Jabask x Eccomi.
1997 grey filly Caera LLeyn Arabella by Secret Partner x Eccomi.
1994 bay filly Esme Jabask by Bo Jabask.
1991 ch f Ecologic by Jefta de Monpelou.
Hows that for starters. by Mandy... to be continued...
and I'm still adding things to the allbreeds for reference in the future, stillloads to go through all the mares progeny & all the stallions...and lets hope we can stop as soon as we've found out which grey mare Molde has...... |
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moldequine
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moldequine
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Posted - 17 Aug 2007 : 12:20:52 AM
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| my mare could even be casi jabask or secret dewiza. we could do with sian`s input but she isnt answering any emails. |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 17 Aug 2007 : 12:26:36 AM
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Me toooooo staggering isn't it, Mandy should be able to list everything thats registered, we need to start a list and see what we can trace. Just think some of these horses travelled half way around the world just to end up of the meat truck, enough to even make the dealers cry.
What happened about Layla Jabask 1994 GREY Mare.
Mandy, I think there is still a bay stallion in Nth Wales that might be from this lot, I think he's tryed to sell it at the Anglesey sale but the price was high and he took it back home...Trip to Anglsey.. Mandy...Fancy a stallion...and TC Jabaskman is atill up there... |
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Edited by - Rozy Rider on 17 Aug 2007 12:31:20 AM |
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moldequine
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bridie
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Posted - 17 Aug 2007 : 12:11:28 PM
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Im still trying to piece some of the information together in my head......
Pegi went to Qatar in 1998
Malvern Sale Sept 1998
Halona & Moldequine (what is your name we cant keep calling you Molde!!!) purchased their mares in Nov 05
Adara purchased her mare Bint Natalie in Jan 05.
CR Serbask is safe and well.......
Where are Jabask Sophie 1992, Layla Jabask1994 and CR Natalies Fire 1990? all grey mares out of MC Natalie by TC Jabaskman???????
Where is 1996 grey filly Jabask Chimenka, full sister to Dakota Willow who we saw a pic of racing? (Estemera x CR Bint Natalie)
MC Madchens Jabask who was at the sale had a bay filly in 1995 registered to MR AC REED (Jabask Magenta).where is she?
On the Malvern sales list JASEPHA was spelt incorrectly and should have been JASEEFA...by Bru Bet Seradro X MC Deerwood Justa, she is registered as being bred by Peter Kaniewski in 1994.
Last foal registered to TC Jabaskman in AHS stud book is 1993 Jabask Marhara out of Jabask Sabrina.....bred by Pegi.
In 1997 MC Deerwood Justa had a b g by Secret Partner and reg to CA SION & G JONES PARRY ?
In 1995 MC Jabasklana had a b g registered by Jalisco to a MISS REBECCA HOSSAIN.
In 1998 Pegi registered a b f Soona by Bo Jabask x Sondas Jabask. Sondas Jabask is reg as bay 1987 and is also the dam of Azzeme & Comet. So where is she now?
In 2003 Cara Jabask had a gr c by Garsel....Caera Marcel reg to Sian Jones ?
In 1997 Casi Jabask ch 1992,had a gr filly Caera Lleyn Gwenlli, reg to Shian Jones. |
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