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Rozy Rider
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 Posted - 09 Mar 2007 : 9:23:20 PM
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| Azara, Can you tell us who the bay stallion was...please and can you remember if there were any younger mares, like these two. Thanks and did Phase II, in volve more from Tadsor...I think, I remember they were sold to cover the livery/transport costs..... Sue |
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Azara
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Posted - 10 Mar 2007 : 11:49:16 PM
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Hi Sue, the bay stallion was Khararambeau - I know where he is. At the moment I have the entire Tadsor Stud paper Archive here at my house and have only just started to go through it, there is another bay stallion that was sold - if you can give me a few days I might be able to come up with some possible names.
I cannot tell you how much stuff there is to go through, boxes and bags of paperwork and photos. Everything seems to be stuffed in brown A5 envelopes. I have registration papers, vaccination certficates etc etc.
I do have a copy of the last disposal list - all so very very sad, expecially looking at the paperwork and press cuttings from the glory days of Tadsor.
The Haywards were truly visionary breeders. |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 6:24:23 PM
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| Hi Azara, The bay stallion was bought by a pal of mine in Nth Wales,is this the same area Kararambeau is located and could it be him,I this horse saw there in or around September 2004, he was very refined and classy, a lovely stamp and gleaming coat, although he had a nasty cough, he was treated by the local vet and had/s a home for life, and I still have a mental picture of him, any more clues, I think this one had a star & strip and some white feet stood about 15hh, he was getting on a bit...any idea who he was....and do you think there is anything in the disposal list that matched the two mares in this posting...I think I know someone in Derbyshire who ended up with a Chestnut stallion sometime in or prior to Summer 2004. Its a real shame when theses matters get taken to the next stage due to money, and all the folks that might have been in positions to help, did'nt even find out about it all untill its too late and years after the event, I would be interested to know what was on the disposal list if its possible to supply me with that info...I may be able to trackdown the folks that had the older Grey, after the sale,these few purchasers all contacted each other, all felt the same about the horses and not wanting them to go on the meat...I'll leave you my email address just in case. rosyrider@dsl.pipex.com.. Thanks for the info.... Sue. |
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Azara
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 6:50:20 PM
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Hi Sue - Rambeau is in a lifetime home and I know where he is. It was definitely NOT him at the sales.
Let me delve through the piles and piles of paperwork and i will see what there is and email you. |
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Lila
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Posted - 12 Mar 2007 : 09:19:49 AM
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Hi Alison,
Do you have pictures of Kharambue?? Is he still entire?
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 8:12:36 PM
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| Loads of the Tadsor horses pictures missing from allbreedspedigree.....can Alison help...... |
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Azara
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 : 08:51:43 AM
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Alison can! The entire stud archive is going to Derbsyshire Record Office in Matlock and will eventually be for public consultation. I am an archaeologist and have a friend who is an Archivist, so we realied the value of everything. Derbyshire were very keen to have the archive and to preserve it.
i will need some time to sort out the photos, there are so many and most have no dates or names on which is sad.
Lila - Rambeau is still entire and I can probably get his new owner's details through a third party if you were interested in him as a sire.
After going through the photos and info the only Tadsor stallion that could have been at Beeston was Berooq. Darmisr was gelded and sold prior to all of this. |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 : 2:47:00 PM
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| Thanks Alison, Bit of an archavist myself, love to see the El Beroog picture if that is possible, before they get lost in Matlock and I might not survive long enough to see them come out at the other end, Beroog is listed as deceased, is that correct, so can you tell us, did he die between Beeston Sept 2004 and now.....Regards and thanks for all you help with Tadsor....I don't think the two mares are anything to do with the Tadsor horses...Sue |
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Azara
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Posted - 16 Mar 2007 : 1:29:24 PM
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I have no idea when Berooq died - I was assuming he was dead given a foaling date of 1978. I am 90% sure someone told me he was dead, he was a very gentle kind horse, you would never have known he was entire.
I have found old covering certificates with his name on, but I seem to recollect he was infertile???
He was not listed as belonging to Hilda in the 1991/1992 Stud Directory, so he must have been rescued/moved before that. He may have been part of the original RSPCA/ BHS rescue - would they still hold records?
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halona stud
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Posted - 01 Apr 2007 : 08:21:39 AM
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Does anyone want a project or have any more free time than me and better facilities?
Does anyone want to buy the grey - I'll accept the price that I paid for her - £650. It will break my heart to part with her but she needs someone with a lot more time. I have separated the two now and they are both a lot more relaxed with tame horses around them and the pair of them not winding each other up. The grey will let you very close, and you can even stroke/brush her neck and mane whilst she is eating out of a bucket you are holding - unfortunately I have too many horses to be able to get her on her own to do this often enough.
I dont think she is in foal (just fat) - she only spent one accidental night with my stallion last year - because we already thought she was in foal, but the stress of the journey to my place probably caused her to absorb that foal (they were totally wild back then), so I guess she was just fat - she is a very good doer. She has spent this spring with my young cremello warmblood colt, but I haven't seen him covering her - but there is always a possibility I guess. Anyway I want her to go to an arab enthusiast - someone who understands the breed and will have the patients and time this beautiful creature needs - I will also glady let you have a few free coverings for her, from one of my stallions if you desired, once she is tame enough. I must warn you, her front feet are getting quite long (hopefully they will break off soon) - which is another reason for her needing a home with more time for her. She has been regularly wormed and is healthy. |
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akitamom
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Posted - 01 Apr 2007 : 4:17:40 PM
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I must warn you, her front feet are getting quite long (hopefully they will break off soon) -This bit posted by helona stud from above.
EERRMMM what,i have never heard of the feet breaking off,i think you really need to get a farrier in before damage is done to her feet.
Might need to have her sedated but hey so what. |
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halona stud
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Posted - 02 Apr 2007 : 08:51:11 AM
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| She is too wild to be sedated - my vet doesn't have a 'gun' like the zoo vets, its already been discussed with him. ACP's, if I could even get her to take them, wouldn't work on stressed out animals. |
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moldequine
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Posted - 02 Apr 2007 : 11:58:20 PM
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| I HAVE ALSO PURCHASED AN ARAB MARE FROM MR SAVAGE, SH IS FLEABITTEN GREY. I BOUGHT HER IN NOVEMBER 05 AND MR SAVAGE ALSO TOLD ME THAT THE LADY WHO OWNED HER HAD GONE ABROAD TO SAUDI ARABIA AND THAT HER HORSES WERE SOLD WITHOUT HER KNOWING AND THAT SHE WAS TRYING TO TRACE THEM, MR SAVAGE TOLD ME THAT HE ONLY OWNED HER FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. IM AFRAID I HAVE NO IDEA OF HER NAME OR WHERE SHE IS NOW. MY MARE HAS BRED A FEW FOALS BY THE LOOK OF HER TEATS. SHE IS APPROX 20 YEARS OLD. SHE WAS VERY HEADSHY WHEN I GOT HER AND IN VERY POOR CONDITION BUT SHE HAD VERY BAD TEETH. SHE WAS HANDLED THOUGH. ANY INFO YOU FIND OUT LET ME KNOW AND I WILL DO THE SAME, IM TRYING TO TRACE MY MARES PAPERS!! SHE IS IN FOAL TOO TO A HOMOZYGOUS STALLION. |
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moldequine
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tamila
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Posted - 03 Apr 2007 : 06:47:14 AM
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| This is a long shot but I was wondering if your grey is Nharisha who I cannot trace and she was in Shropshire. I am desperately looking for a photo of her as,of course,I no longer have her markings. If it is her she will e by Ahmoun out of Tamila. Your grey is the right age and size and has a look of Tamila. |
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moldequine
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Posted - 03 Apr 2007 : 10:49:08 AM
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| hi, She could be!! she came from shropshire, she has one white hoof on herleft hind, she has two whorls on her forehead and a flesh mark. i have posted pictures of her on here, look at the post just above yours, she is a fleabitten greyey, i had the dentist out to her and he thinks she is approx 20 yrs. |
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Judith S
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Posted - 03 Apr 2007 : 11:14:14 AM
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Pauline - I can see Sly in her head also - Ahmoun connection ?
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 03 Apr 2007 : 11:34:23 AM
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If she's registered with AHS, her large fleshmark on her nose will identify her.
Other pic's on other posting.
Sounds like the same tale over again, Woman owner left the counrty and just maybe all these mares came from the same place, the time frame fit with the other two mares, so they might just have all come together to Mr.S and been there since 2005, Good chance they came from Wales....anyone got any other info or clues....We need to find out who it was who disapeared to Saudi and her name.....
What about the mares that turned up in Llanybyder in Dec 2006, could any of those be from the same place, did't some of those get identified.... could that help this enquiry....
Judith, do you think its worth asking Joan R and anyone else from that area...Havenbeach also may have some old info from that or other sale days....
Molde, bought her mare from Beeston in Nov 2005...came off Mr Savage so could be he had all three mares or even more...maybe those that went through LLanybyder came or went from there....
and just to remind you searchers, that the few Tadsor horse & old mares (2 greys I think) were sold through Beeston Market in Aug/Sept 2004, wonder if this 20year old is one of them....keep at it......
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moldequine
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Posted - 03 Apr 2007 : 11:47:30 AM
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| i bought my mare in november 05 and helona stud bought her two arabs off mr savage in nov 05 aswell |
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Kash
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Posted - 03 Apr 2007 : 11:55:55 AM
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The grey mare also resembles my old part bred who was by Kashan (Ahmoun x Blue Gleam) - the same sire as Judith's boy.
A very poor quality photo, but it was taken almost 10 years ago now...
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Photographs by Emma Maxwell and Peter Grant |
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Rozy Rider
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moldequine
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Posted - 03 Apr 2007 : 2:57:30 PM
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| does anyone have any pics of ahmoun or tamila |
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tamila
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Posted - 04 Apr 2007 : 06:52:18 AM
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Tamila is the grey mare in my signature with the foal. nhartisha woukld be about 18 now and was very activein dressage at one time so should be rideable. The grey I am riding his Tamila's full brother. It was also the eyes which made me think of Tamila.
There is also this other mare on this post who could be her.
Judith, this is actually what I saw so it is probably the conection. When shown as a yearling people were able to identify Nharisha by the fact that she was so obviously an Ahmoun filly. She seemed to disappear when her owner, who bought her from me, stopped sending me news and photos about 7 years ago. |
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Judith S
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Posted - 04 Apr 2007 : 09:00:49 AM
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Heres Sly (Sharrif Akl Quua)(snapped this morning - not very good!) - Ahmoun grandson:
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Kash
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Posted - 04 Apr 2007 : 09:17:04 AM
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Judith - he's lovely! |
Photographs by Emma Maxwell and Peter Grant |
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