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 Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 1:44:48 PM
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Hi
I've just received my UK Crabbet newsletter and it is brilliant! Is really refreshing to get something that focuses on "real" horses that you can ride and show rather than some of the more - what's the best way to put it.... - skinny things that would buckle if you showed them a saddle let alone put it on! I'll get lynched for saying that I'm sure...
Has anyone else out there got the newsletter? Or am I the only the only one who thinks Crabbet horses are elegant, beautiful and a "real" horse?
Before you all start slating me, remember that a Crabbet mare won the Princess Muna class this year, and horses like Zircon Nazeer are high-Crabbet too....
Bring out your axes!
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razgold
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 1:55:27 PM
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yes Boo I agree with you. I have Crabbet/Old English horses myself and I love them. My picture below is my stallion Elegant Gold who has sired some good horses. I'm going to put my show mare on here as soon as I get the all clear from Marilyn (copyright). Another one of his sons is Aurilla Gold. Sports horse in Holland.
By the way I got my magazine too!
Sue
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white bryony
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 2:36:09 PM
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sorry boo but i have to disagree on your oppinion on skinny horses,we all have different views,i prefer to ride and own slim,leggy horses.
that doesnt meen i dont like crabbit breeding,
thankfully none of mine have buckled on me yet
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Tab
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 2:42:03 PM
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How do I get a copy? Do I have to join a society? If so, anyone got details of the membership secretary?
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diane
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 2:45:04 PM
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Hi Boo,
Agree entirely with you. Most of my arabs are Crabbet and high percentage crabbet, including one by Zircon Nazeer, one a Grand daughter of Gold Rex, and another Grand Son of Haroun. They have all won or been placed at the Nationals under saddle and all now do endurance. Regards Diane
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Lynda
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 3:17:22 PM
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Hi Michelle
The UK Crabbett magazine is excellent, and you can get one by contacting Caroline Sussex at Binley Arabian Stud. The address and number is on this site under stud listings.
Happy reading.
Lynda
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Libby Frost
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 5:51:49 PM
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| Boo is this the one you get from www.crabbet.org,or is it from another organisation? I couldn't agree more on the skinny horse comment i was infact just looking at another fashion able horse photo,and thinking the same thing!! i would'nt fancy doing a 3 day event on that!Its nice to talk about the crabbet arab on here for a change.Regards Libby. |
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SueW
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 8:36:36 PM
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I agree that Crabbet horses are elegant, beautiful, "real" horses, particularly as they mature - the older they get the more beautiful they become. I also have a mare by Zircon Nazeer.
I find so many of the "designer" horses look like toilet tubes with legs in each corner - likely to snap in half the minute you place any weight on their backs.
Sue
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razgold
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 8:42:44 PM
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i call those sort sausages on sticks ha ha
Sue
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SueW
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 8:45:01 PM
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An excellent description Sue!
Another Sue (lot of us about)
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sasha
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 9:10:33 PM
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Me too, a crabbet fan, my mare's great grandsires are Indian Magic, Oran, Hanif and Count Dorsaz.(She's 97.58% crabbet..the other bit is old english.
She has been doing long distance riding for 10 years now, and is my best friend,and I put her to a crabbet/old english stallion this year, don't want to lose those blood lines.
It's such a shame 'fashion' comes into so much of the arab breeding these days.I would like to see any show animal over 3 years old, have to do a ridden class.
Trouble is, so many of them are wasted,and are just pretty ornaments, not versatile like the crabbet arabian. |
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razgold
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MO Moor
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 10:50:29 PM
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I also have a crabbet/old english gelding grandson to Zircon Nazeer and appreciate the way they are built and moreso their mental attitude. As sturdy as they are in build, they are also sturdy in the mind.
I do have to also comment on "other" arabs, as i own some Russians which to me are pretty to show, built to ride and intelligent enough to compete. Maybe the "other" arabs have been created to look a certain way to satisfy a sector of arabian enthusiasts. Maybe, if left to nature and geography many more would hold the same description as a Crabbet?
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georgiauk
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 10:53:23 PM
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At last Crabbet fans are poking their heads. At one show this year the ridden judge had only one thing to say about my 7/8th crabbet/ english boy and that was" he's very wide isn't he"!!!!!!! I comented to my OH, perhaps she hasn't had a real man between her legs, can I say that on here?!  |
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Shirley Charlton
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Posted - 16 Nov 2003 : 11:45:59 PM
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Well Lynn, that judge really rattled your cage, lol
I love the Crabbet Arabian, hence Silva Dollar(Photo Below) but I also have 2 Advanced Egyptian boys - geldings - there temperaments are very good also. One is slim and elegant and the other is a house end. Oh and Lynn, the mare you liked is Egyptian/Polish. Offspring next year will be by Dollar. Can't wait for her baby to come into the world.
Just joined the Crabbet Organisation and should receive the Newsletter soon. Its still free to join at the moment. If you want to join, just email Tanya at tanyabetts@yahoo.com and she'll send you a Newsletter.
Shirley
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Wyllow
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 02:08:16 AM
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YES!!
Another Crabbet fan here!
My little mare may only be part bred...but as I've mentioned elsewhere on the boards, she can lay claim to being decended from Skowronek.
At some point in the foreseeable future, I would love to find myself a pure bred of Crabbet lines as I consider these horses to be the closest to my personal idea of "perfect"!
I can admire the almost unearthly beauty of some of the very finely built Arabs and in my humble (and unpredictable!!)trade ~ I'm an equine portrait artist ~ they make ethereal subjects and can be equisite ~ BUT... for a horse to own, ride and appreciate all round, Crabbets are definitely my idea of "ideal"!
~Wyllow~
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Serin
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 07:22:58 AM
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georgiauk
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 07:30:11 AM
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Hi Shirley,
I hope I get an invite when your foal is born, when's the due date? I'm way overdue brooding over foals especially after Georgie's stud fiasco!!! I think I would rather the judge had told me he was a cr*p ride rather than comment on his shape, he was in a class with mostly very narrow Anglo's so I guess he was a bit of a surprise to her! Ha Ha I don't call him "my little cob" for nothing! |
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 10:50:20 AM
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Wow - am thrilled this as raised so much interest and that us Crabbet lovers are not such a rare breed as the show rings suggest!
Sue - love your 'sausage on a stick' term - so right!
There is something about the Crabbet horses - the presence, the style. They don't always need to be jumped up and have plastic bags waved at them to make them produce something magical in the ring....they have their own flair and sense of passion.
I agree that some of the fashion horses bred today are very beautiful...but it can go too far - pictures of foals looking like seahorses and you wonder how they can breathe.......another topic!
But Crabbet...they are the original in my book and the Crabbet Convention last year was a great arena for fellow enthusiasts to get together.
Lets hope we don't get pushed off the board!!
And I can also recommend Trevor Mattock's DVD of the Crabbet stud tours.
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heatherr
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 11:48:20 AM
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hi
just seen this thread - yaaaay more Crabett people. Both my girls share Indian Magic as a grandsire!!! Older mare is out of Shirar, and my youngster is out of Indian Banner. Real horses, you can do anything with!!!
Do not mean to offend the SE people and some of the Russian arabs around are beautifull, but we will end up with another type vs confirmation discussion here if we're not carefull!
I will most definitely have to contact Sue and get a subscription to this mag.
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Nick
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 12:22:30 PM
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The Chicken and the egg were did the crabbet originate from the desert or South East England
Sausage on a stick great comment
How does peaky croup cow hocked plain headed sound and no i am not talking about crabbets but generalization is a terrible thing.
We have won C shows with a Crabbet filly who was fantastic no better or worse than other horses we have won with just a good Arabian.
Likes and Dislikes are personal each two their own.
Exit a Dragon who loves Arabians no matter what the LABEL says
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primrosepye
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 1:15:41 PM
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Just joined the forum and found some great info. thanx everyone
I have a mare who i know to have some crabbet in her - how do i find out the exact percentage? it goes without saying that she is the best thing to me since sliced bread, and i would love to find out more...
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razgold
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 1:48:51 PM
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Now we've got the crabbet people all fired up I will put a question to them.
How come it's so hard to sell a Crabbet horse? I put my colt foal in Arabian link last month and I received not one phone call. This horse will mature to over 15h. His full sister is a multi-champion show winner. A full brother is doing endurance as is a half sister. One of the best in Ireland. And another half brother is top sports horse in Holland. So all you out there saying how much you love Crabbets what is wrong with mine?
And were are all those Crabbet stallions when you are looking for one to use on a mare. Besides being at opposite ends of the country.
Sue.
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TanyaB
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 3:17:24 PM
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Hi Prim
If you want to find out your crabbet mares percentage, Alexia on our committee will do these for you and they are presented on a parchment certificate and look really good for display.
If you go to the website at www.crabbet.org you can find further details.
If anyone wants a copy of our newsletter please send me your details and I will send you a copy and forward your details to Caroline Sussex to join the membership list. My address is tanyabetts@yahoo.com
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heatherr
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 4:09:02 PM
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Hi Sue
I'm going to line myself up for shooting here, but I found a similar problem earlier in the year, but trying to buy Crabbet as opposed to selling and have concluded that they are just not fashionable at the moment
The more exotic look seems to the thing everyone wants, and with years of selectively breeding bigger, stronger riding horses, a lot of Crabbet blood doesn't look as typey..... OK just my humble opinion and not knocking anyone. Like Nick said, generalisation is a terrible thing. OAS Panache has had a fab year for results, winning at Malvern and Towerlands Gives me hope
Shame Crabbets only seem to come in orange or white maybe if there were black ones.....
Your boy in the photo looks lovely - typical Crabbet look to him!
Heather
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Nick
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 4:26:15 PM
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Hi on the crabbet theme OAS Panache is a El Saleem daughter which gives her all sorts of so called exotic bloodlines .and believe me that is not knocking her or crabbet breeding indeed we own a El Saleem daughter.PLEASE PLEASE Judge the horse not the pedigree.
Exit a friendly all bloodlines Dragon |
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