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SueB
Platinum Member
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 Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 10:41:03 AM
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Hello peeps,
Do watch Channel 4 this Thursday 9 pm......It's a documentary about the ladies from Aussie or where ever, that came over here and promised to pay huge amounts of prize money to Malvern Show winners?..... remember? ....looks like interesting viewing!!!
Now I will get a phone call from Big Brother!!!
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paul_exe
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 10:47:58 AM
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Hi Sue
I remember watching this on TV once before. Appearances by several well known horse people. It is a very interesting programme.
Ohhh When Big Brother rings, could you please get me Davina's autograph
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diane
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 10:50:24 AM
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Hi Sue,
Must remember to watch it as I was at Haydock Park that year when they both arrived in a large chaffeur driven bentley to present all their dud cheques for prizes. Please remind everyone again on Thursday morning it will be a very interesting viewing.
Regards Diane
lapworth arabians
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suyents
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 12:17:57 PM
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Me too Diane!!
i remember how disappointed John Howell and Bill Gore were when the promised prize money didnt materialise 'cause their horses had done really well. Had forgotton all about the ladies...
Sue, as for Big Brother..surely it's BB's neurosies that become apparent when they have to try and FORBID freedom of thought and speech??? Thank goodness i am not a) a panel judge...b) aspiring to become one!!...c)a council member...d)a member of the official staff...e)one of the establishment breeders...
As Voltaire said,
I may not believe in what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it to the death.
Oh dear, a van's drawn up outside the house.......................... |
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SueB
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 12:50:51 PM
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Suyen, I have a great excuse now for being a bit outspoken.....
It's called insanity!!..I am off for brain surgery next month!
I thought Suyen's article in the Link was superb....!I know Marlene thought so too
Sue..x |
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Vera
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 3:55:39 PM
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Please do tell as I don't know anything about this?  Or will all be revealed in the documentary?
Vera and Dennis
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SueB
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 4:05:59 PM
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Vera, it looks like Paul Exe has seen this before?..I havn't, and am not sure of the facts.
Watch the program!!
Sue...x |
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pat ww
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 4:34:28 PM
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I also remember the 'ladies' from Australia who came with the promise of huge prize money, £1,000 to each class winner.
We had decided that this was going to be our stallion's debut year in novice ridden, including Haydock, and of course the normally small classes ideal for a novice stallions introduction had doubled in size. This was our closest local show, so as we were never going to be in contention for the prize money, were a bit put out to say the least.
Especially as the rules for being a "novice" involved the winning of £x in prize money. The class winner had been a ridden champion at affilliated level, but was a 'novice' within the rules! Second placed won regularly at dressage. etc etc.
The result of the 'ladies' was that we in the north lost Haydock as the official AHS northern show.
Due to the timetable constraints, the show committee had advertised the prize money, which was not forthcoming. The main AHS took delight in castigating the show committee, and refused to allow it to proceed in future .......
Fortunately a new committee was formed to bring another "C" show to the north, but not at the haydock venue.
Seems the AHS history is peppered with conflict.
Some newspapers at the time ran the story, they were conning all sorts of equestrian people, not just Arab owners.
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paul_exe
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 4:37:22 PM
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| It was on the television a couple of years ago. It has some famous showjumpers and also some Arab Show riders on there. I will not name the persons as I do not wish to have a liable case against me. You will know who they are when you see them. |
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Sadika
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 5:23:56 PM
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This is a new programme bringing the story upto date - there may be a film in the offing as well! Very sad time for all concerned - we lost out in a very small way compared to the devestation suffered by others- nobody wanted their presentation photos of them winning at Haydock that year with Ms Burton beaming away on them (other than the court where they became evidence!!)
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SueB
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 7:09:32 PM
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Just think, if the winners had bought their photo's Marilyn, they might be used in the film!!
No such thing as bad publicity?
I didn't know about Haydock, that's the first I have heard, what a shame indeed. We loved that show.
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Lisa
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 9:33:13 PM
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| I thought they did the same thing to Malvern, 1997? wasn't it. I remember going with my gelding and all the classes were huge. How can the AHS be so horrible to the Haydock show comitee when the same thing happened at Malvern? |
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Sadika
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 10:11:33 PM
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They are using a photo in the programme - fame at last!!!
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pat ww
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Posted - 22 Oct 2003 : 09:33:14 AM
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The AHS office itself does the main work for Malvern, under the direction and authority of the council. Because Malvern was later than haydock they had time to realise it was a con and retract the prize money thing before it could have got ugly with competitors demanding their £1,000.
The fact that the 'donor' was 'anonymous' should have sent alarm bells ringing for members who went to the shows just for the dosh. As I said, the large classes were not what we wanted at our 'local' show with a novice stallion, although by initially advertising the prize money the AHS made sure Malvern for that year at least was financially viable.
Call me a cynic, but come on, council are intelligent and should have checked it out first. |
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Vera
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 10:03:01 PM
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Where were the arabs!!! I think I caught sight of Paul (was it you???). Who was the older lady with grey hair with a grey arab? Other than that it was a young showjumper and Richard Ramsey.
I don't suppose anyone has the original film do they - pretty please!!
Vera and Dennis
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KNIGHTS ARABIAN
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 10:07:21 PM
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hi
Well they should have got alot longer inside. I saw the showjumpers and the lady with the arabs.(who was the grey arab in the stable)
Denise
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Lisa
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 10:10:28 PM
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| Nadia Howard Price was the lady with the arab who was Walkyria (sp?) I think. |
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Varaina
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 10:25:04 PM
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| I'm pretty sure it was walkyra, I think they should have locked them up and thrown away the key. |
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bridie
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 10:37:17 PM
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Ohhhhhhh they were outragous werent they must admit I kept laughing at how all these people were taken in by the promise of MONEY. Which filly did these fraudsters buy from USA ? was it that nice grey ? Obviously these pair still have money left over, who says crime dont pay |
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Bebely
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 10:46:45 PM
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I think it's sad how easily we can be taken in by people like that. I think normal, hardworking, decent individuals can't get their head around how somebody can so blatantly lie.
I am a real sceptic and don't really belive that you get something for nothing but I have to be honest, I might fall for someone with so much conviction waving all that money about.
I would love to see the original myself. Has anyone got a video and can we pass it round?
Where was Marilyn's photo - I thought you said you were going to be famous
 
Bev
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Edited by - Bebely on 23 Oct 2003 10:48:22 PM |
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bridie
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 10:53:03 PM
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| I was looking for the piccy too, the only one I saw was of a grey horse, it was on the filing cabinet. |
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Nick
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 11:30:22 PM
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Money strange thing. Class system even stranger.
The old dyke had a good handle on personalities
The butler was a character.
I know there is a serious side to this But i must admit i found it funny that people will jump through hoops for a quick buck.
The worrying thing is how did she fox the queens security
Now if they had the security guard who knocked our generator off at Malvern none of this would have happened
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annas
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Posted - 24 Oct 2003 : 12:06:24 AM
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Was the grey mare Balquia - not sure of spelling. Seem to think it was from Al Waha?! I may be way out though!
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Sadika
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Posted - 24 Oct 2003 : 07:54:05 AM
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No fame at last - back to the burrow!!!! Well Channel 4 paid for the use of a photo of EB presenting Francis and Majari with a trophy at Haydock but they didn't mention the Arab show side at all did they? (The original programme "Money, Money Money" I think it was called did show a Haydock photo).The photo behind Francis was Majari however. Could the filly have been Minnie Pearl?? I felt it was awful how they showed no remorse...indeed they semed to think it was an enjoyable game...and to say no-one "small" was involved or lost out was not true - try telling that to the person who supplied all the Haydock Park trophies EB ordered and presented...and that young show-jumper bursting her dream bubble. By the way when the police phoned me I couldn't believe who was in charge - "Jim Frost" (David Jason!!!!?????). Now for the film????? Who's ging to play the parts - any suggestions??? I can just se Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders ding their "spof"!!!!!
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paul_exe
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Posted - 24 Oct 2003 : 09:08:11 AM
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I thought they were totally outrageous! Hmmmm very attractive women, understandable why they were dykes!! No offense intended.
They obviously had extremely cunning brains, and knew exactly how to play the Game (oh another unintentional pun)....
I did feel sorry for the one legged showjumper though... They shattered her dreams 
I wonder how much money they actually got away with? You would think that a few nips and tucks here, and a set of teeth that actually fitted would not have gone a miss.
Paul
Ps I have a picture of the Queen I bought at the post office today, I paid 28p for it, I am putting it up for auction as a start to making my millions... Who will start the bidding at 50p? LOL... |
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pat ww
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Posted - 24 Oct 2003 : 09:24:09 AM
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Sorry for the following totally racist remark against everyone else Australian, BUT,
are we so used to the Australian soaps portraying that accent that we are taken in by a person who obviously had no 'class'.
Lets face it , what we saw - we didn't see an educated articulate woman, more a person who would have been at home as a fishwife at the market. Is that what we expect Australians to be like???
I think they were right about the greed though, but there were a lot of ordinary folks hurt in the process. They were after all CRIMINALS. i find it hard to believe that after not paying the first hotel bill they could carry on.
Knowing it is so easy, welcome to the high life! |
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