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flosskins
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Posted - 04 Oct 2014 :  11:07:26 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add flosskins to your friends list Send flosskins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My 23 year old mare has navicular and cushings and lately has been looking dreadful. Full blood tests have been repeated and the cushings levels are very high. Her cushings meds have been doubled but the vet has suggested supplements - their own supplements! I'm sure they're good but I want to make sure I give her the right thing not just what they stock when there are so many options.

Firstly - cushings - I have read chaste berry is helpful? Any other remedial/homeopathic remedies that people have found helpful

Immune system - I want to help her immune system which is compromised by the cushings - she already has garlic, is echinachea the best option? On its own or in one of these immune targeting supplements that have other things in them?

Feet - her feet have suddenly become terrible and crumbly - pure biotin or some of the other supplements such as forumla 4 feet, farriers friend, farriers formula etc? They all seem to have slightly different contents!

Vitmains & Minerals - is seaweed adequate? What contents should I be looking for?

There seem to be a few supplements out there for cushings specifically, any experience with these?

She has devils claw as she is very stiff, I'm considering adding codlivine. I have Danilon to give to her as and when needed but I'd like an alternative to help her stiffness if possible!

Sorry for all the questions, I just want to get whats best for her!
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badders
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Posted - 04 Oct 2014 :  12:07:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add badders to your friends list Send badders a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi, There is a new company based in wales that are doing supplements for Cushings,EMS etc. If you google lamalert then the website has details on there, I cant remember the name of the company. My friend has just started her mare with cushings on it and she appears to be doing very well on it,
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 04 Oct 2014 :  4:01:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NAF supplements are very good although I don'y know if they have one specifically for laminitics, if you ring them they will help you, or google them to see what they have. I wouldn't go with seaweed, I think a more specific supplement would be better. Probably too late now but if you read my thread about nettles they are good for laminitics and just as good for cushings as they have lots of chew value, full of vitamins and minerals and most horses love them. Feedmark also do supplements for laminitics and they are very helpful, I have used them for years (as well as NAF) and they have a freephone help line.

Badders, I think you mean Superfix. I looked at the site but there was no list of ingredients for their products and no feed rate; they seemed quite expensive. I hadn't heard of them before but would be interested to hear others views who have used them.

Barbara

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morag
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Posted - 04 Oct 2014 :  4:29:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add morag to your friends list Send morag a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chaste berry is excellent for rebalancing the pituitary hormones. I feed my mare Agnus castus tincture (chaste berry). Started at 60ml a day for two weeks then dropped it every two weeks by 10ml she has put on body condition,hollows filled out and shiny cost-effective did look like I might have to PTS at one point she looked so poor.
Echinacea is good but feed two weeks on two weeks off - otherwise it fails to stimulate the immune system repeatedly.
Seaweed has lots of iodine - not sure it wise to throw that in too.
Biotin good for feet and hooves- formulas have other ingredients so you have to make sure you aren't duplicating vitamins - vitamins A not good for liver in large quantities.
I would seek advice from supplement manufacturers if you have multiple problems to address - you may spend a fortune on unnecessary products and they may end up doing more harm to your horse than good because of unwanted side effects- just because they are "herbal" doesn't mean they are not harmful. Good luck with your mare
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Vik1
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Posted - 05 Oct 2014 :  07:23:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vik1 to your friends list Send Vik1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What does she get fed in general as a normal feed? Maybe instead of adding, it could be changed. Personally I love Top specs comprehensive feed balancer. Horses look great on it.
Micronised linseed...if fab for shiny coat and its full of omega 3 so anti-inflammatory. I used boswellia for my mares arthritis....it was alright but nothing startling. Danilon was the only thing that made a real difference.

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pinkvboots
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Posted - 05 Oct 2014 :  11:15:51 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Look on the natural horse supplies website they have some really good mixes of different things to help horses, I buy mag ox from them and have used the homeopathic remedy's for a few different things, I think you can ring them for advise if your not sure what to use.

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pinkvboots
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Posted - 05 Oct 2014 :  11:17:50 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by badders

Hi, There is a new company based in wales that are doing supplements for Cushings,EMS etc. If you google lamalert then the website has details on there, I cant remember the name of the company. My friend has just started her mare with cushings on it and she appears to be doing very well on it,


Its superfix that make lamalert I have used a few of there supplements on my mare to get rid of fat pads and a cresty neck, they really do work but are not cheap.

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kath
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Posted - 07 Oct 2014 :  12:43:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kath to your friends list Send kath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can highly recommend Forageplus if you're looking for advice on Supplements. I've found them extremely helpful!

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Kharidian
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Posted - 07 Oct 2014 :  3:33:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would contact Alex Gingell of HackUp Bespoke supplements; as the name suggests, they devise a formula specifically blended for your horse's individual needs.

Caryn

Kharidian (Prince Sadik x Khiri)........ Alkara Cassino (H Tobago x Rose Aboud)
aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

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