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Pasch
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 Posted - 10 May 2013 : 11:36:40 PM
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...an arab on sale on a well known italian site,it's a 14 years old Polish stallion,they say he's good for hacking alone or with other horses,easy to manage,and asking price is 2,000 euros! Looks beautiful on pictures.
Can't believe horses are so cheap at the moment!
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brack369
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Posted - 11 May 2013 : 06:46:27 AM
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It's a shame they're not so cheap to look after. Mine have cost a fortune this month, with wormers, dentist and farrier. Then next mOnth I need to put mOney aside for this years hay delivery!
I hope the stallion finds a good home. It's a buyers Market at the moment. |
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Pasch
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Posted - 11 May 2013 : 1:00:06 PM
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| Agree.Makes me laugh (and worry for the horses) when people say they can't afford a horse unless it's for free or very small money.Haven't they thought about how much they will have to spend afterwards?what if the horse colics and needs vet?Poor horses... |
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FullCircle
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Posted - 11 May 2013 : 7:09:13 PM
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I do understand when people can't afford to buy but can afford to keep. I didn't have anything saved up for buying the horse of my dreams as I'd already spent it on another horse which was completely unsuitable for me. Then following putting her on loan to a very good home I was lucky enough to find the horse of my dreams, which if priced what he was worth, I could never have afforded him. I got him on loan for a year and paid a nominal sum for him the year after. He has never ever wanted for anything, insurance has been kept on him, and I was able to buy him good quality saddlery...we go to parties and for lessons and physio when required. Can't say that's a bad life for a horse I couldn't afford.  |
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arabian
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Posted - 11 May 2013 : 8:34:00 PM
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| totally agree with your outlook fullcircle the same happened to me sadly my boy had to be put to sleep due to his chronic condition so i lost the money it cost me to buy him plus all the costs involved vet wise and the the cremation etc (not that i begrudge any of it as i loved him dearly in the year i had him) plus the sadness of having to let him go which was all the money i had saved up to buy what i had hoped would be my lifelong friend so now i am without a friend and havnt got the funds to buy upfront but i can say my horse never went without anything as he was my be all and end all ,i do however know people who have the funds to buy then dont look after them properly not even what would be their very basic needs ..... |
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Pasch
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Posted - 11 May 2013 : 9:43:15 PM
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| FullCircle and Arabian of course there are exceptions but I do know a couple of people who couldn't spend 2 or 3 thousand euros on a horse and were looking for one for free and were thinking to keep it at home.Apart from vaccinations,wormers,farrier,hay and feed,as I said what if the horse needed veterinary care and they had to fork out a couple of thousands?Not uncommon as you unfortunately know! |
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FullCircle
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Posted - 12 May 2013 : 07:40:33 AM
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Of course there are people thinking that horses make good back yard pets, and buy one for next to nothing and keep it for the same. And there are people who let them go without vetting out the potential homes first. Those horses I do feel sorry for.
I do sometimes wonder how much money I'd have saved if I didn't have a horse. Truthfully, the answer is probably not a lot - I'd find more dogs and or something else to spend it on javascript:insertsmilie(' ') javascript:insertsmilie(' ')javascript:insertsmilie('')javascript:insertsmilie(' ')javascript:insertsmilie(' ')javascript:insertsmilie(' ') |
Edited by - FullCircle on 12 May 2013 07:42:46 AM |
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Judith S
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Posted - 12 May 2013 : 10:36:28 AM
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Going back to the original post, is 2000 Euros cheap for a 16yo stallion? We only paid £1000 for Rameed 7 years ago as a 17yo high percent crabbet stallion.
The market for stallions is very limited unless they have a lot of valuable proven stock on the ground. |
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 12 May 2013 : 10:42:49 AM
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Many people don't have a lot of money upfront to buy the horse of their dreams but can afford to keep them and most vets will take installments if there is a big bill. I had two £2500 bills a couple of months apart a few years ago and paid it off in installments; I knew my vet and he knew me so it wasn't a problem and I did without all but the bare essentials to pay the bill as quickly as possible.
I am pleased things worked out for you, FullCircle, and agree fully with you, arabian, some people with money care very little for their horses, they are just possessions and when they aren't winning they are discarded and something perceived to be better is bought. Lots of money doesn't make a good owner and lack of money doesn't make a bad owner.
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Pasch
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Posted - 12 May 2013 : 1:05:49 PM
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The post was about how cheap horses including arabs were priced today which could lead to some horses being bought on a whim by unexperienced people and then passed from pillar to post or not cared for properly,I never doubted people with no big means could still care properly for their horses!And I know people with lots of money sometimes don't as I know some such cases.To keep a horse in my area on the basics (only tetanus/flu vaccinations,wormed twice a year,cheap farrier,no transport,no vet,no special feeds) will cost around 300 euros per month.Some vets will let you pay in installments but not chemists if you need expensive drugs or treatments.
Same applies to other animals.Some people just refused a beautiful puppy for adoption (they were looking for such breed) because it was a female,saying they were not ready to pay the 150 euros for spaying her that's why they wanted a male!Well at least they didn't take her and let her have unwanted litters like some do...
Judith the stallion is 14 and here mares and stallions are priced higher than geldings.
Fullcircle like you if I saved money on horses it would probably go on cats  and other animals... |
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FullCircle
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Posted - 12 May 2013 : 2:13:17 PM
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I think it's all relative to be honest. A girl on my yard (a horrible spoiled thing) has several horses, only two of which are liveried on same yard. One of these is a very expensive show jumper they paid very high 10's of thousands for. The other is a younger horse that she got allegedly to bring on to sell. The other horses are in a field someplace. Girl brags about how when they weren't jumping well, she clipped them naked for the winter and then turned them away without rugs. ('')
The expensive horse they've just spent a lot of money on vet treatment for some kidney issue and something else, I dunno what. But the young horse they bought him the cheapest possible chaff because "he didn't deserve better". I don't understand this mentality, and clearly it's someone that has the means (judging from the massive horse box and the no expense spared on the expensive horse) but can't possibly even LIKE horses the way she treats the youngster (and allegedly the other two which are turned away).
YO had to have a word with her for battering the youngster for causing mayhem because it couldn't see the rest of the horses as she'd turned him out in the school and everything else was in fields behind a hedge, out of sight. So she put it in his stable and battered it. I'm just glad I wasn't there, or I might be trying to make bail. |
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Pasch
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Posted - 12 May 2013 : 2:40:57 PM
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Glad I wasn't there also  what she does borders on the animal abuse,well actually IT IS abuse.... |
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FullCircle
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Posted - 12 May 2013 : 3:26:16 PM
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The worst of it is, that she claims this is how she was taught on various top show jumpers yards! And to think that she believes she can have a career in horses?!
sorry, this is getting OT a bit. But I do agree, that horses going cheap often do have little "value" to their owners. But that's not to say that someone nice won't scoop up a cheap horse and give it a fantastic life. Unfortunately that's the way the market is with the economy such as it is. Lucky for some of us who perhaps have a stable income but not much in savings (well--- if you ask my hubby he'd say that it's foolish, but nevermind) |
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Just saw....
