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erica giles
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 Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 2:53:27 PM
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| Im sure there are plenty of horses slightly stiff one side, was she saying lame or unlevel. A slight stiffness perhaps wouldnt worry me so much. I think you have to follow your instincts. He sounds so right for you xx |
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annas
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 2:55:03 PM
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| No not lame or in level...just stiff, slightly. |
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Callisto
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 2:59:17 PM
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Hmmm, if she said she would possibly just take a gamble one assumes she doesn't think he is carrying some hideous injury - did she think it was muscular or joint related?
When I took Lily to our local EGB MOT day I was told she was stiff through her poll, lower neck and her glutes, and given exercises to release her - is she talking about that sort of stiffness? Or trailing back leg because he has a stifle problem type stiffness? Is she just covering herself by suggesting a vetting, or does she think he would fail a vetting?
Lily is pretty stiff on the left rein, but at the same MOT day she was fully checked over by an FEI Vet, who said she should be doing distances of 50 miles by the end of the season - so obviously didn't think she had any physical problems - I just need to do a lot more schooling to get her more supple. |
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erica giles
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 3:00:19 PM
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| He probably just needs to be worked correctly, my 5yr is stiffer one side but with work he will even out. |
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annas
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 7:44:36 PM
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The osteo said she thinks it is more likely to be joint as he showed no muscle pain or spasm in his hamstrings or associated soft tissue.
The owner said he slipped over the other day so the osteo says it could be that but without vetting she wouldn't like to say.
Why is nothing straightforward...I really need to make a decision. |
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Gail
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 7:52:10 PM
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Hi Anna,
It doesn't sound too serious and if he hasn't really ever been in work it's quite possibly just that.
As I said before trust your instincts, if you think he is "your" horse then go for it.
Too many reservations? Then don't.
I know it's really hard but do whatever you think is best. If I felt he was "my" horse I think I would have him, stiffness can be sorted.
Good luck, let us know.
Gail xx |
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annas
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 7:59:22 PM
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Thanks Gail, its a toughie, heart saying one thing, head something else. xx
Osteo also said it could be as a result of the 18 plus stone man that broke him... |
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Callisto
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 8:00:37 PM
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Did you notice any stiffness when you lunged him? If not then it is likely that it is as the owner says, and he is not carrying a long term injury. If the osteo had said definitely get him vetted because of the stiffness then I personally would be a lot more worried.
Harley injured his stifle when he was 5 messing around in the field. With field rest and some physio (3 sessions) he made a full recovery and went on to do endurance, hunted etc. The only long term effect was that he has worn that shoe down unevenly ever since - road nails have helped prevent it.
The good thing is that he hasn't got any back problems which was your major worry. As Gail says, if you feel he is the horse for you then go for it, if you don't, then walk away. |
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annas
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 8:05:02 PM
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I did notice the stiffness on the right rein which is one of the reasons I thought it best to get his back checked. The owner then said the following day that the girls at the yard saw him slip over in the field at some point before my visit.
Thank you for trying to make my decision easier. x |
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annas
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 8:08:19 PM
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| She did say that she would get him vetted as she gets all of hers vetted....and that without a vetting we wouldn't know the cause or extent. |
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precious
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 8:20:58 PM
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omg what a story, ive been off AL for about 6 months.
Tough one, if it was me he would be on his way to me now :) hedoes look stunning, and a bit of stiffness if he was 100% sound wouldnt worry me that much.
Is he expnsive or a good price?
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firstlady
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 8:26:55 PM
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Just had a quick look through the posts to catch up
sounds like you had doubts in order to get him checked out
He does look a lovely stamp of a horse but in the picture (pg5 )he looks quite tied down ! presume this was for lungeing ? in which case if the side reins are a tad to tight/unlevel he may have found it difficult being restricted more one side than the other could he be stiff from compensating ???
Is he as stiff at Liberty ??
He sounds as if he has a had a foul start - highly possible some damage was done then,he is still young and I'm sure still fixable with time and patience
Go with your instinct and buy him for the right reasons
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erica giles
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 9:05:09 PM
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| If it were me I would give him a chance, Good luck with your decision xxx |
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Pauline
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 10:25:48 PM
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I have never had any of mine vetted.
As a young horse that has had a bad start in life ,broken by a man too heavy he will feel stiff.
He looks a lovely horse. I would have him and do a lot of stretching both passively using the carrot stretch and using the lunge making him work long and low. I would also long rein him changing direction often. |
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annas
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 10:36:10 PM
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Thanks Pauline, much appreciated advice.
I need a big glass of Baileys and a long think.
This was part of the text conversation with the osteo...
Her - Hi. It's more likely to be joint but again i don't want to make any guess's as I said before. It could be where he has slipped, but you can't be certain without a vetting x,
Me - any reason why joint and not muscular?
Her - Because he had no muscle pain or spasm in his hamstrings or associated soft tissue. Sorry I feel like I have given more questions than answers but rather be honest! |
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annas
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 10:51:52 PM
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| Thank you to everyone offering advice and support, sorry if I haven't thanked you individually. |
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Callisto
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Posted - 27 Apr 2012 : 12:54:20 AM
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| Did she specify which joint? |
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annas
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 27 Apr 2012 : 07:17:29 AM
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You've had brilliant advice on here, and I can certainly understand your hesitation due to your previous experience....hated the photo of him because of the side reins but I could love the horse easily, I think it comes down to that! |
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annas
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Posted - 27 Apr 2012 : 08:11:37 AM
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| I know, the advice is amazing on here and I'm very grateful. The picture is one of his advert images...I hope you don't think I put the side reins on! X |
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gossy
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Posted - 27 Apr 2012 : 08:41:17 AM
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| we know it wouldnt of been you, i personally hate to see side reins that tight :( |
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Gail
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Posted - 27 Apr 2012 : 10:03:20 AM
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Hey Anna,
How are you feeling about him now that you have had a chance to think about it?
Gail xx |
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Callisto
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Posted - 27 Apr 2012 : 10:13:42 AM
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Anna, I think I read somewhere in one of your previous posts that you wanted to be like you used to be and trust your own instincts and not worry about what other people tell you to do.
Just ignore everyone else and go with what you want to do. I always have, and I haven't regretted it yet (and no I don't buy every horse I go to see , and yes I have bought one who failed a vetting, and she was a great mare with a pigeon toe who was fabulous at cross country and stayed with us til we lost her to a tumour when she was 25). |
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erica giles
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Posted - 27 Apr 2012 : 10:19:17 AM
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| Hi Anna, like Callisto if I think I am rightI will go ahead. Once I have made my mind up I will not be put off. I think you have to go with your heart, I have made mistakes but that is down to me and no one else. Like wise I have had some really lovely horses that other people wouldnt have taken a chance on xx |
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lizabeth39
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Posted - 27 Apr 2012 : 10:39:42 AM
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I have also been following this with interest, and have to agree about following your own instinct. I did the same thing quite recently when I bought Kali. Some of you might have read my post about getting her from Kings Lynn without as much as seeing her.
I knew she had a mounting issue, but something told me to take the risk. I can honestly say I have, and never will regret it. She is a sweet honesty mare who will do her utmost to please you, and we are working through the mounting issue slowly.
Sometimes it is worth taking that chance, but only you can make the final decision.
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