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lulu
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Posted - 04 Jul 2012 :  12:12:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lulu to your friends list Send lulu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Having read all posts from beginning so very pleased you know who your boy is. Onwards and upwards.
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kim gasper
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Posted - 04 Jul 2012 :  9:49:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kim gasper to your friends list Send kim gasper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi annas,
Have P.M'd a reply to you!

Many years experience owning & riding my own horses. Fell in love with Arabians at 11 years old when given a ride on "Trevallion", a 3/4 bred who was a livery where I worked as a stablehand. I have never forgotten that ride, Thank You Yvonne- should you ever read this!I now have 2 beautiful purebreds.

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moonlight
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Posted - 04 Jul 2012 :  10:10:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add moonlight to your friends list Send moonlight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not Arabic I know but Struck Gold sounds appropriate to me!
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LadyLuck1
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Posted - 04 Jul 2012 :  11:05:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LadyLuck1 to your friends list Send LadyLuck1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like Struck Gold also. Good luck with him.
Mary
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Callisto
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  12:57:42 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ISRA (israar) secret, mystery
INSHIRAH (inshiraah) happiness, cheerful, delight
AL-ASHAB (Al-as-hab) The Grey
BAARIQ (baa-riq) bright, shining
DASSAIS (Das-say-yis) Intrigue
EL-MAREES (El-mar-eese) The South Wind
Al-WAHED (Al-wa-heed) The Only One
ZAMEEL (Za-meel) Friend, Comrade
SHAHEEN (Sha-heen) White Falcon

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
East Sussex

Edited by - Callisto on 05 Jul 2012 01:04:14 AM
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annas
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  04:00:36 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the suggestions, I like 'struck gold' but feel that I really ought to give him an Arab name. Especially as I now know that he really is ALL arab, although I never doubted that he was!
Am looking at your list Linda, thank you. X
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kim gasper
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  8:34:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kim gasper to your friends list Send kim gasper a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Just read through the list above that Callisto has put up.....don't know what you think annas, but I think Dassais would be VERY appropriate under the circumstances Did you see my latest P.M. by the way?

Many years experience owning & riding my own horses. Fell in love with Arabians at 11 years old when given a ride on "Trevallion", a 3/4 bred who was a livery where I worked as a stablehand. I have never forgotten that ride, Thank You Yvonne- should you ever read this!I now have 2 beautiful purebreds.

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annas
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  8:44:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I quite like it too and so does my mum, clever Callisto! Sorry for not replying, I have had a horrendous headache and nausea...just catching up with things slowly!
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joanna_piana
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  11:45:26 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How exciting that you now know who he is - yes that's got to be his name!!


Harthall Rashida RIP, Binley Ishara, Bouchan
Chorleywood, Hertfordshire
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annas
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  6:09:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Happy New Year to all!

Well..he now has a proper name..just waiting his full registration... he also has been mounted today...hurrah...and he was very happy too!
If you are my Facebook 'friend' you can see some mobile images from today on my page...it is a very happy day!
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Kash
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  6:18:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kash to your friends list Send Kash a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Love the photos, Anna! It looks like he's really at home with you, well done

Lauren x

 
Photographs by Emma Maxwell and Peter Grant
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basbob
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  6:30:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add basbob to your friends list Send basbob a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Saw the pictures Anna - fantastic X

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annas
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  6:39:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you ladies...I can't quite believe it! Can't wait to share his new name too...just waiting for it to be 'formal' x
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debs
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  7:49:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Anna happy new year! Can we see some of your boy on here please???? x

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annas
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  7:55:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hiya Debs, hope you're well. I just don't have time to faff uploading them to flicka...are you on fb? X
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martha615
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  10:32:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add martha615 to your friends list Send martha615 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anna, I became intrigued by this thread and read it through in one sitting! How have the past many months gone for you and Sam? Do you feel he has transformed, or simply settled in and become more confident little by little?

Love to hear details -- I don't know where to find you on FB and you might want your privacy anyway!

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joanna_piana
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  11:20:54 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Excellent that's great news I've sent you a FB request, at least I think it's you!


Harthall Rashida RIP, Binley Ishara, Bouchan
Chorleywood, Hertfordshire
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unicorn122
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  09:13:38 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unicorn122 to your friends list Send unicorn122 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Anna

I just noticed this thread and it caught my eye.
I think I enquired about the same horse on my search in summer 2011!
he was called Sam and in Herts. The owner said he had been backed by a NH guy in Sussex (I wont mention name on here) and was good in walk trot and canter but panicked when mounted. She seemed genuine and honest. She said she would try and get someone to ride him for me so I could come and see him ridden but then the next day got back in contact to say they hadnt actually been able get on him - however I was welcome to come and see him anyway. I decided to leave it as I needed to see him ridden! (I was looking for my first horse having only loaned before)
Anyway it sounds like he is a lovely boy and Im really glad he has now found a nice home :)
x

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annas
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  09:22:52 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well that is very interesting, thanks for your message. So that was the previous owner, I spoke to her and she seemed very genuine and with the best intentions. It sounded as if she was 'over horsed' and sent him to 'the guy' hoping to get a much easier horse back. Instead she says that she couldn't do anything with him on his return, had been charged over £1000 for a months work and he never returned as promised..makes me so cross.
Especially as I know a fair amount about his treatment with the guy...
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unicorn122
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  09:54:53 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unicorn122 to your friends list Send unicorn122 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow yes - she mentioned that to me! She said she couldn't afford to send him back for more training and would have to cut her losses.
Thats so shocking if it was down to him as he associates himself with a well known body. I guess all methods can be bad in the wrong hands! I'm based in Surrey and was abroad for a long time this summer getting married. I actually looked at his yard and thought it would be great to send my boy there while I was away to keep up his hacking and confidence etc.. but couldnt justify the cost along with the wedding. Perhaps that was for the best then!

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annas
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  09:58:08 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Congratulations on the wedding and I think you had a lucky escape...!
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annas
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  10:03:08 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I pm'd you twice by accident!
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unicorn122
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  10:58:06 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unicorn122 to your friends list Send unicorn122 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks :)
Keep us updated on him

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martha615
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  10:59:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add martha615 to your friends list Send martha615 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, I have to know who this guy in Herts was....can someone PM me? I have seen atrocious things done in the name of "natural horsemanship" and I've seen wonderful things done. I've never truly understood the idea of sending a horse away for training in any case as it seems that if you are the one who is going to ride it, the smart thing is to get yourself trained with the horse and have these people come to you....but I know it is common practice to send a horse away and that I am unusual in this respect.

The idea of bending a horse's head around is in all the western stuff and I've seen it many, many times on youtube. You hear of "one-reined stops" and that kind of thing for emergencies, of course.

As far as I am aware, the turning of the horse's head practically to your knee when mounted is supposed do be done with a tiny bit of pressure, and the release happens immediately upon the horse giving a centimeter, until the head is all the way around. You are never supposed to force it unless (I think!) it is an emergency to stop them.

Obviously, if you did it mounted and all the horse did was swing around furiously, you probably haven't gotten it right on the ground yet! Idiot people, "natural" or otherwise. I really don't understand..... :(

This move is called "lateral flexion" in Parelli and I don't totally love it anyway, except that if you can get your horse to do this on the ground, and it is done very slowly, it is good for when the chiropractor comes. It is also a good exercise if done correctly in that your horse will show just how much trouble he has with you controlling his head. If it is a lot of trouble, that is something to work on long before you get a bit in his mouth. If he doesn't care, then you are in very nice shape for a number of things, including panics of various sorts (in other words, you get a lot less panic).

So it is an exercise that is useful, as being able to hold their legs is useful. So, just as a horse that doesn't allow you to put their leg between your knees, is probably not going to like it when the farrier does it, so you have to teach that skill -- but slowly!

Before I started working with Esme she had a FIT if she stepped on her own rope. Now she doesn't like it, but copes. She doesn't like her head restrained at all and I have to work on all this, every day, just a little bit. If I don't , I am doing her a disservice, but I only bring the training up to a certain point every day, and no further. It is supposed to get easier, not harder. A horse that is willing to bend his head around and let you totally control them in that way is great -- he is showing a lot of trust and it is a useful skill. But this does not have to happen all at once, in a few weeks, forceably....grrrrrrrrrr!!! Whole point is trust and the horse giving to your control. But the key words there is Trust and Giving.
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annas
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  12:59:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it really comes down to common sense and an empathy for the horse that you are working with, whichever methods that you choose to use.
It also helps a lot to know what he has experienced before. With Sam, the less 'faffing' the better...
Sadly, he was sent to someone who did not have the patience and perhaps experience of 'clever, sensitive and quick thinking' horses.
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