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jackiedo
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Posted - 15 Oct 2012 :  3:30:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jackiedo to your friends list Send jackiedo a Private Message
I contacted Lesley regarding Zareeba, the 3 horses in their mid 20's have been PTS at home. THey have not been anywhere else for years, and as some had medical issues Lesley did not want to subject them to a move. I have Zareeba and Krugers older sister, Zarello, and, although she is very fit for her advancing years, and has never had any issues with her feet etc, not all aged horses are as lucky, and if I was unable to care for her, I would have to think long and hard about her future, so I am unwilling to judge the actions of the Skippers regarding this. I know that they were in their mid 20's, and had been with them all their lives, straight from their breeder. The other horses who are younger and had no issues have been rehomed, so there are no horses with the Skippers at the moment.
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Kazzy
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England
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Posted - 15 Oct 2012 :  3:41:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message
Thanks for that link Munchie.

So £250.00 fine and banned from keeping horses again.

If they have got mental health issues then this is the right result that they can never keep horses again, but saying that people I know with mental health issues care and love their animals becuase thats all they have in life and all they have to live for.

RIP the horses that died under horrendous conditions.

Janet





Sunny Cheshire
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Callisto
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Posted - 15 Oct 2012 :  6:06:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message
Thanks for the update Jackiedo. I am glad that the younger horses are rehomed, and I think the decision about the older horses was the right one.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
East Sussex
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zooscat
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Posted - 15 Oct 2012 :  10:09:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zooscat to your friends list Send zooscat a Private Message
Poor horses. I feel dreadfully sad about their suffering. I live with chronic mental ill health, and my horse and meeting his needs as well as possible keeps me alive. No one who can pick up a phone or write a letter/email saying "help, please." should be allowed to use mental ill health to excuse cruelty.
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jackiedo
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England
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  07:18:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jackiedo to your friends list Send jackiedo a Private Message
I updated this so we would now no there is no need for us to worry about these horses. No one of us are qualified to speculate on the health of the Skippers, and I don't think this really helps now. I just find the whole situation so very tragic and genuinely wish I could have helped,
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Pop
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England
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  08:16:37 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message
Jackiedo

Your posts on this thread have, so far as I can see, been focused totally on doing something positive for the future of the horses who remained.

The news of their rehoming is brilliant, thank you so much for bringing this news.

Respect to you Jackiedo.


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Callisto
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  09:25:35 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message
Pop, I second your post.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
East Sussex
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Kazzy
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England
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  11:17:03 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message
I think 99.9% of people posting on this thread were concerned for the horses that died and the horses that were being cared for by the RSPCA.

A good outcome for the ones that got rescued, unforunetly not for the horses that had to be PTS.

People had tried to contact LS and she didnt respond and she also didnt respond further to this thread.

We were ALL concerned!! Perhaps if she had asked for help then this wouldnt have happened. A sad situation all round.

Janet



Sunny Cheshire
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Pop
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England
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  11:48:32 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message
I am not surprised that she 'didn't respond' to 'people' who had tried to contact her; although I'm reading, and I hope I'm reading right, that she did respond to Jackiedo. So, for that, and the good news its brought us; thank you Jackiedo.

And again; I'm not in the least surprised that she didn't respond further to this thread; had she, it would have been most bizarre given many of the comments.

Its fantastic that the horses have homes; its very sad that we on this forum perhaps did not appear a place to come for help.

In fact, the whole thing is very very sad, in all its aspects.


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Eeyore
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  12:40:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Eeyore to your friends list Send Eeyore a Private Message
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2218455/Equine-author-banned-keeping-horses-kept-squalid-conditions-down.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DWilliam%2B%2BCook

Pictures are on the link.
I just don't have the words.
What the ****?

Heléna
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caz
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  12:50:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add caz to your friends list Send caz a Private Message
I just saw the same article Eeyore and was quite frankly astounded that faced with the evidence (and I imagine those pictures are only a fraction of the ones taken) someone can plead 'not guilty' !


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Delyth
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  12:54:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message
I'm of the same opinion Eeyore & Caz.... justify that. Not guilty !!! Bloody deluded !!!!
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Delyth
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  12:58:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message
Presiding magistrate Les Abbott banned them from keeping horses indefinitely and imposed a deprivation order in favour of the RSPCA, meaning that a fourth horse will stay under the charity’s care.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2218455/Equine-author-banned-keeping-horses-kept-squalid-conditions-down.html#ixzz29SjKxQLJ

She wanted and expected to get the fourth horse back !!!! Many people are calling for a ban on the sale of her books - bravo !!!
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sab2
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  1:17:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message
Mental health issues or not there is no excuse for this, that dirty bed has not just taken a week or two to build up, and the poor grey horse so very thin. Looking at the photo of her she has certainly managed to look after herself through all this, shame she couldn,t do the same for her horses. All she had to do was ask for help
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garnet
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  1:32:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add garnet to your friends list Send garnet a Private Message
What tragic pictures.

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Kazzy
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England
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  1:44:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message
The pictures say it all really dont they!!!

Please dont try and turn it around that its all our fault for speaking out about it. She had plenty of time to answer questions before the thread got heated.

Shameful

Janet



Sunny Cheshire
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joanna_piana
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  1:50:01 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message
Disgraceful no excuse whatsoever


Harthall Rashida RIP, Binley Ishara, Bouchan
Chorleywood, Hertfordshire
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Paresh
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  1:50:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paresh to your friends list Send Paresh a Private Message
how can people still be trying to defend this womans actions??? think they are as deluded as she is.

Poor bloody horses is all I can say.

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Kazzy
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  1:55:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message
Agree Paresh.

Wouldnt like to see their horses if they think that all this is ok becuase she had a mental illness.

Like has been said before that is no excuse, people with mental health issues think the world of their animals and wouldnt dream for one moment of hurting them or depriving them of a life that gives them the things they need.

Like I said. Shameful

Janet



Sunny Cheshire
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Pop
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England
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  2:11:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message
I don't see anyone defending her actions ?????

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georgiauk
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  2:23:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add georgiauk to your friends list Send georgiauk a Private Message
She should learn to practice what she preaches, rotten c*w !!!

There are NO excuses for this degree of neglect !
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rosie
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  2:47:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosie to your friends list Send rosie a Private Message
FFS HOW CAN ANYONE DEFEND WHAT HAS HAPPENED????????

HORSES WERE PUT TO SLEEP!!!!!!!

ANOTHER IS IN THE HANDS OF THE RSPCA!!!!!!!

THE DEFENDENDANTS NEVER ASKED FOR HELP!!!!!!

HORSES SUFFERED.





Last picture courtesy of Sweet Photography
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Libby Frost
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  3:05:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Libby Frost to your friends list Send Libby Frost a Private Message
Originally posted by brychens mum

I read the article from the local newspaper with great dismay. is it true that Nvalis was pst on order of the rspca? I am certain that in the last book I bought wrote by her she had a tribute to him and that he had just died. This was I think before the rspca action?


according to the article below he was PTS :(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2218455/Equine-author-banned-keeping-horses-kept-squalid-conditions-down.html#ixzz29SjKxQLJ

as far as i can gather, * big sigh

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Delyth
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  3:16:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message
Pop - seriously....re-read the whole thread.
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Silver
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Posted - 16 Oct 2012 :  3:18:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Silver to your friends list Send Silver a Private Message
How can she sleep at night?
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