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Fee
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Callisto
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 Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 8:40:02 PM
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Poor girl, I do hope she gets relief and can lay down soon.
With reference to her knees and falling, since our older girl went down on the road and injured her knees (thankfully fully recovered), we haven't ridden her without her boots on - these are like brushing boots with extensions that go up over her knees, rather than old fashioned buckle on knee boots, they look a bit like lollipops - could you let her wear these during the periods when she is likely to doze off, and protect her poor knees?
Here is a pic of Nush with her boots on to give you an idea of what I mean
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Pashon2001
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Fee
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Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 8:50:59 PM
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I'd need to have them on her 24/7 that's the problem, it happens anytime of the day or night whether I'm there or not. When her falling was at its worst before the kinesiologist came on board I had her all bandaged but it'ssao uncomfortable on them to have anything on constantly. I am going to make her a soft pair of fetlock boots that she'll wear 24/7 but not sure what to do to protect her knees other than her knee boots which are really not suitable for continuous use.
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Callisto
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Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 8:56:26 PM
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| Could you swap between the two different styles of kneeboots (ie trad & lollipops), so that she wasn't wearing either constantly? They would do up in completely different places, and you could pad under the lollipop style to ease pressure - they do up with velcro so very adjustable. |
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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 9:03:18 PM
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A horse I used to do shiatsu on had narcolepsy or similar. He almost always wore padded stable boots, or bandages and had padding up the walls as he always amost seemed to slash his forehead when he went down.
She is so beautiful, I hope it all works its way out so she can get some true rest.
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LadyLuck1
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Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 9:11:04 PM
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Poor baby it must be heart breaking foryou, hope you can get her sorted soon.
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Honeyb060674
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Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 9:21:11 PM
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Poor beautiful Po  It must be so distressing for you both, she is so lucky to have you as her mum. You've worked so hard to get her the help she needs. Hugs to you both, I really hope she gets better soon  |
      
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 10:03:16 PM
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| rant away Fee - she is such a darling girl, and wo lucky to have you (and your crack team) searcing out all the parts and assembly instructions to rebuild her... here's hoping things progress steadily further from this point. x |
    
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hazelcat74
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Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 10:57:27 PM
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Poor girl and what a worry, but great that she has you for an owner doing all you can for her, we love them so much they worry us sick at times! Best of luck getting her right  |
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Pasch
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 12:43:01 AM
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Poor girl,I really hope one day after so many videos of her nearly falling we will be able to see one where she's properly laying down and snoring!
I think Callisto had a good idea about padded kneeboots.You must feel so worried for her,I wouldn't be sleeping myself! |
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shah
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 08:03:54 AM
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I so thoroughly sympathise as I understand exactly what you're going through. Lots of hugs to you, it's such a heart breaking thing to see happen. 
Interesting about falling on her tail/spine. Mush's last vertebrae on his tail is broken, sustained from an injury at some point, nobody knows when. I always suspected that injury happened when he was shipped from Dubai to the UK. Coincidental?? |
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Callisto
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 08:18:03 AM
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| Fee, Check on ebay, they are currently starting at about 9.99, New they are 27.99 inc postage - made by shires, in our experience they come up large. Nush is in pony ones, she is 14.2hh. Hope that they help. |
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Pop
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 09:42:28 AM
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I've said this before to you Fee, and I'll keep saying it. You have spent so long nursing Po, the ups and downs, even daily ones - that you will not know the great toll it takes on you until she is better. Your dedication, love and care for her is nothing short of amazing. But you MUST NOT forget to look after yourself. Again, you will not realise how the worry drags you down until you can stop worrying.
Will someone tell her, shes ignoring me.  |
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Arachnid
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 10:07:02 AM
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| Poor little Po. Sorry to hear that shes no better after all the treatment shes had. |
   
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TanyanChewy
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 12:46:59 PM
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Fee, I'm so sorry to hear about Po's condition and am sending lots of vibes that she feels better soon. She is however extremely lucky to have a mummy so dedicated to her and I'm sure she knows that x Have some of these
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Fee
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 1:10:35 PM
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Thanks Linda, will check them out.
Shah I know you fully understand the emotions and frustrations going through this and I do miss not being able to 'compare notes' with you. I really don't think it's a coincidence that Mush and Po seemed to have the same problems, both imported, both injured in the same area. I believe they herd and treat them like cattle on the Tersk - Holland run (hopefully not now) and why would the transporters care, they are only a number with a $ sign above their head. Can you imagine how that wagon was drove that she got that injured  I can't really think on it and imagine what she went through. Luckily those Tersk horses are so damn tough.
Pop I know! I know! Too much, too intense  I woke this morning and convinced myself it was Saturday and I could lie a little longer, no such luck! I am tired too I admit and rarely get a full nights sleep.
It's the not knowing if she'll get better and the constant worry/drain in the back of your mind of what if she never lies down?? She can't maintain that indefinently. She is already so grumpy and that alone is heartbreaking to see as she is normally the sweetest horse in the world. I guess anyone would be that grumpy without having had a deep sleep for more than a year and a half. It hurts though as she tells everyone to get lost that goes near her, even me sometimes now
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shah
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Kharidian
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 5:18:49 PM
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So sorry to hear this - your previous posts sounded much more positive; I thought you & your team were on top of it now? Poor Po looks SO tired.
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Fee
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 5:42:40 PM
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I know, I think sometimes I try to make it seem more positive than it is so that helps me and her to keep positive and sometimes I think it really is all going well and im genuinely positive. Maybe I too am tired and that makes me feel down but I just feel so drained and exhausted. Thank goodness we stop for hols next week, dont think I could last much longer! She has blood on her fetlocks tonight and I'm sitting her writing this on my phone!! Will go clean her up in a mo though, promise.
Some time ago the kinesiologist offered to take her and nurse her back to health with her expert team but I didn't want her to go as it just didn't feel good and besides that she's down in Lampeter and I had to get her down there and I don't even have a trailer! I've contacted her again to see if she can still go (limited spaces as she's a rescue centre) If she can I think I need to give it serious thought and try to borrow a trailer. I've given it everything I have. At one point I even had aspirations of riding her again! Now I really couldn't care less about riding her. In fact I dont want to. I want her to be a happy field ornament and live to a ripe old age.
Sorry, think that was another big moan!
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Zan
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 6:17:48 PM
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I would try to relax, step back and think long and hard before you send her away anywhere. I too thought things were going well from your previous posts and am sad to hear they aren't. You have been trying so hard to help her, and you have been so enthusiastic about all the people helping her with you, but if she isn't getting better maybe you should try to be objective about them all--this isn't meant to be critical of any of them, and certainly not of you, but if it isn't working maybe you should rethink, and try to sort out what might still help from what won't.
Personally, I don't think lack of sleep would make a previously sweet natured horse grumpy, but I think pain might. I had a very old mare who couldn't lie down to sleep for her last few years ( I've mentioned her before in threads about Po)and she never, ever changed character and was never grumpy. |
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Callisto
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 7:53:17 PM
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| Fee, I am so sorry that you are so worried about Po and so down. I think Pop and Zan are right, you are obviously exhausted, and very worried. Easier said than done, but try and get some decent sleep - I use sominax when my insomnia gets too bad, it's not perfect but it helps. If you are feeling better in yourself then you will be in a better position to make the right choices for Po. Take care of yourself, as well as your lovely girls. |
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Fee
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Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 9:14:56 PM
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I wish I could 'speak' and explain everything as it's so hard trying to explain all the details via writing and hard typing it, there being so much and it takes me ages using this tiny keyboard on my phone!
Anyway it still gets it off my chest so to speak. Thing is they ARE all helping Po, each and every one of them. The problem and the reason I end up feeling like I do now is due to many things, the main ones being this is a long sorting process as she fundamentally has a structure problem and as quick as they are trying to keep on top of it's just not enough to give her a huge stride forward. She really needs an experienced equine cranial osteopath. As lovely and talented as my guy is he is a human cranial osteopath and bless him for doing this for us but he is really quite afraid of horses. What a baptism of fire he faces as Po's problems are most complex.
The other problem is the kinesiologist. Not that she's a problem, she's brilliant and she is the leader in all this. I get whichever expert she tells me Po needs at that time and I give her the feeds she tells me to give her. When we communicate very regulary everything is moving forward, even if it's baby steps I can still see improvement. But the kinesiologist runs a rescue centre, her father in law had a stroke, she has been I'll, etc etc, all the usual life things which cause us to break communication and that's when Po begins to deteriorate as her needs can change in just a few days.
I just hope I can get to talk to her ASAP. Will keep trying!
I think and feel her lymphatic and entire system is moving like a slug right now. She's bloated with fluid in certain areas so I need to get it moving by getting her moving!! But when I try to get her exercised she's foot sore, the next day she's lame, she really doesn't want to go out and it ends up being such a negative experience for both of us I could cry. Should I force her out? Do I let her stand about like a beached whale? I just don't know what to do for the best anymore.
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My poor girl
