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LYNDILOU
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Smiler
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 Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 8:35:51 PM
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I stink.... been with my horses... they are all doing well...the two rescue horses... One of the owners showed up to look at his horse but I wasn't there to talk to him.
just found this on fb so as i thought they have taken them to get them back to health then the owner will have them back from the sounds of things ! |
   
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LYNDILOU
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 11:57:15 PM
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Hi Lyndilou, No I don't know the answer,I thought they had been rescued, be a pity if not, but I don't know. I thought I read they were from the same owner, but cant find it now, or anything to confirm our worst fears read everything back to the 16th. Just
Keep me posted.
Sue
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 9:32:42 PM
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ESMA's Susie Nassar send's todays report:
Report Horse Feeding today at Nazlat Al Samaan - Pyramids -
10am start finished 6 pm. Gave out food for 504 horses and + we fed many of the skinny horses (not including their share to take home). Today as is the case nearly every week there were more horses that we hadn't seen before. Many ones we saw today were very thin. Next week... will need to feed more, once we calculate the horses that we did not have feed for. This is not getting any easier, still few foreign tourists, although quite a few locals riding, but nowhere near enough work to go around for the horse owners. We would like to thank all our volunteers for a very hard day's work in hot weather. Without our volunteers we could not continue to carry out this operation. XTRA volunteers needed next week if we are to feed additional horses. The huge crowd needs many people to control them + recording ID nos. writing date on the horse and distributing the feed. Photos hopefully to be published tomorrow on Facebook.See more
2 minutes ago 26.March 2011. 21.26hrs.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 : 3:42:05 PM
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Susie Nassar reports on Saturdays feeding 2 April 2011 from Giza, Egypt.
Report on ESMA Horse Feeding 2nd April 2011 in Nazlet el Seman - We fed 600 horses, the largest number ever and still we have another extra 50 on the list for next week. Some of the horses are still terribly thin. Thank God yesterday we had Dr. Ahmed Arabi, ESMA vet with us too and he treated many cases. I will ask him post a report later. We are ca...lling for many more volunteers to help with the feeding, the operation is becoming bigger and bigger, and it is very difficult to control 600 horses and their owners! Some of the pictures were posted this morning below this posting, if you want to volunteer for next week's feeding please send me an email sunassar@hotmail.com...Thanks for all the volunteers hard work in this very difficult Volunteer task..
Susie Nassar
ESMA Volunteer Co-ordinator
Funds to continue the feeding urgently needed.
UK donations can go straight to HSBC Account.No. 81868349. Sort Code: 403412.
Bin Eating Saturday.
 Cake for Cairo.
Thank You.
Everyone who gave a donation and had a slice of cake on Sunday 3rd April at our ride, £55 collected & Banked for ESMA and feeding the starving horses in Egypt.
Thank You to everyone who made a donation for this really good cause.
Sue
PS. In the past I have feed my 250 free range chickens from local skips, all the greens and fruit that gets thrown out goes to waist, often I've collected boxes of cauliflower cutting and apples. Lets hope the Egypt horses are making up their daily rations with greens disgarded by others (humans). Good Luck to them.. |
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 : 11:38:41 AM
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The cake looks delicious, if you pm me the recipe I'll donate straight into the HSBC bank account, (very simple)
(I shall then pass recipe onto my mum or daughter in law as I'm not a very good cook! ) |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 : 5:04:19 PM
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ESMA Feeding Day 2nd April:
 Where is the food.
 Bin picking..
 Thin Greys get the extra food.
 Vet check.
 Standing in line for ESMA
 Another feed day. 2nd April.
Thank You, Have PM'd you.
Enjoy the bake.
ESMA still desperate for funds to continue the feeding, please help them.http://www.esmaegypt.org/
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Smiler
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 09 Apr 2011 : 08:28:28 AM
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I will ring them on monday, they get fed up with me ringing them if this is true and its hard to believe they would just stop feeding, then I will stop my monthly payments. thanks for the update of the horses feet , but sadly we still condemn them to a life of misery by sending them back to work in those condidtions a living hell from what I can see |
   
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Vera
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Posted - 09 Apr 2011 : 08:58:32 AM
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I am totally conflicted about this 
I am seriously considering withdrawing my donations to both organisations.
The reality is that, however much it really upsets me to say this, but the reality of this is that these horses are better off dead. There I have said it.
I haven't seen a single malnurished person, they all have decent clothes on and shoes on their feet. I'm sorry but I simply do not believe that these people don't know any better. They have eyes. There are well kept horses so they can see the difference.
I wonder if it would be better to provide them with scooters/motorbike/tuktuks (tooktook's??) which they can mistreat to their hearts content. |
    
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jaj
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Posted - 09 Apr 2011 : 09:15:49 AM
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Vera I do agree about the horses  .
Re people out there, it is a terrible place to live for many people. I saw filthy, emaciated children doing what the horses are doing - living in/on rubbish dumps and finding what food they can amongst it.
There is plenty of abject poverty truly and I guess a horse costs less than a tuk tuk . |
     
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suyents
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 : 6:24:31 PM
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| PLEASE have a look at the FOUR PAWS website to see what good work they also have been doing. |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 : 11:57:33 PM
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Feeding Day - 9th April 2011.
News just in that the Brooke will pull out of helping to feed the starving horses on 21st April..a Real Shock & Bad News for all.
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Smiler
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Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 01:00:54 AM
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sue do you mean they HAVE confirmed they are pulling out ?
and vera i do agree with you too although i will add that it has been said that the well known makes of clothes they wear they get for free or for very little money i think these kind of clothes maybe made over there meaning they get them very very cheap , but still agree they have eyes they must know these horses are on there last legs i am beginning to thin they are eating the dam horse food themselfs because i dont see much change in some of them |
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Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 11:35:39 AM
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Hi Smiler, Yes, I read it on Facebook in one of the reports, saying that Brooke was finishing feeding the starving horses on the 21st.April and that the horses would be short of 7kgs of food each a week... which won't help the situation for any one.
Just found this too which makes interesting reading:
8-April ||Feed mixing: Those 4 workers did a really HUGE work !! They did 650 sacks = 650*7= 4550Kg of barn & corn.. from 3:30 pm till 9:00 pm ..
Tomorrow is the horse feeding insha'Allah.. Many Volunteers needed
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Smiler & Vera, What you are seeing is the horses that might be the additional 50 that were new to the feeding programme, I also believe that any that were showing little or no improvement were asked to bring the horses,so they could monitor them and get an additional feed in on the day. I think that many of the others were in the book and known to the team and maybe just picked up their horse food and were not at the front of attention and pictures not taken.. I guess any improvement will be slow, even for those who have benefited from feed from the first feed day - 14 Feb.
They said that the numbers were climbing each week and that there were an additional 50 horses due to come on feed day 9th. It was good to see the horses getting water.
Sue
Donations are still needed to keep them afloat..
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Vera
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Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 12:10:25 AM
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Kim - that has occurred to me too. I believe they are being given maize and bran, which could be made into some sort of bread. So are they stealing the food intended for the horses.....?
Sue - do you know what has happened to the boy still working his horse with a broken hip? WHY didn't they buy the horse of him there and then!!!!!! I don't understand how they could let him leave. I know they are all volunteers but I would paid just about anything to get him away from that boy and put him to sleep.
And as for my comment a few days ago - who an I kidding, of course I am not going to stop supporting them but it is breaking my heart that they are still so desperately thin, and still being worked and ridden.
Maybe they should post some pictures of horses that have improved, preferably with before and after pics, then people like me would not be so disheartened at apparently seeing no improvement. |
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Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 12:41:34 AM
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No Vera, I only heard about it today, I said something similar, get the horse away and buy the boy a bike, support him and not a horse.
When they said Broken Hip, did they mean broken bones or skin...?????
there's a lot of difference.. just wondering.. and had a vet seen it.. the vet was with them over the last two weeks feed days...???
Sue
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LYNDILOU
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Smiler
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Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 11:45:48 AM
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vera i have asked sussie time and time again to do something regarding this horse with the broken hip ! they argue that they don't have anywhere to keep horses but i have said that i would not sponsor this horse no way if you check on his photo you will see I've refused to help with this case i said also that I'm sure people would sponsor the horse IF he was rescued bought what ever and we could set up a sponsor to keep this horse in a stable etc I'm sure some of you and i would help with this ??? i am waiting for confirmation on prices etc !
yes agree sue there will be slow progress with weight I'm sure we all understand that but some who have been there from the start have not improved one bit
yes there are new cases turning up all the time as people who live further out find out about the feeding which is good but of course puts such a strain on finances |
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Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 2:42:50 PM
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I have now stopped my monthly payments to the Brooke ( as stated in my thread" letter from the Brooke") they continued to skirt round my questions , and now they say the WILL stop feeding as the situation has improved in Cairo???? ( not from what I can see!)so I wrote back that I want my money to go to feeding , so I am going to give all my money to PAF and ESMA. |
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Smiler
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Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 2:48:52 PM
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where has the situation improved ??? from what i can see its worse as more people with starving horses are coming out of the woodwork !!
so sorry you have had to do that lynda but i thought they were skirting around things i dont want to get to the end of every month and have to put pressure on these charities to keep feeding we can see the straving horses why cant they ? |
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