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MirandaToo
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 Posted - 15 Jan 2011 : 8:49:42 PM
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Hi all
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Just a bit worried that our loan pony is starting to get a touch of thrush. Want to get on top of it quickly so have scrubbed with hibi and thoroughly purple sprayed, as well as using a tea tree solution. Been told to use peroxide, but just want to know what % to get and whether it should be watered down before using? (Sadly my knowledge of peroxide is confined to hair bleaching!!).
Alternatively any other ideas gratefully received! Thanks in advance x
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Callisto
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Posted - 15 Jan 2011 : 9:37:07 PM
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| I have used hydrogen peroxide in the past, you buy it from the chemist. I diluted it 50/50 with water and used a pump spray to get it into all the crevices in the feet. The thrush did clear up. Keeping the hoof clean and dry is the main thing, as it is a fungal infection, and what you are already doing could well be sufficient - I would be wary of mixing too many treatments. I have heard of people using atheletes foot treatments, but I have no idea how successful this would be. |
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Linda
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 15 Jan 2011 : 9:44:40 PM
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| Milton tablets made up into a bottle with a nozzle (Shampoo bottle / eyewash etc) so you can flush it through the foot. Is pony shod or barefoot? Pick and brush feet out and treat with the sterilising fluid. You can also 'tub' the foot fora deep treatment. Make sure you wash your hoofpick and brush too. |
    
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linda
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jan 2011 : 10:15:46 PM
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Hi,
You can buy 20vol peroxide quite cheaply from you local chemist, just dilute it to 10vol (equal amounts of water/peroxide) holding up the hoof use a large syringe which will easily get into the crevices of the frog! it will fizz up in the problem areas,
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Cinnypony
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Posted - 15 Jan 2011 : 10:29:54 PM
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| We are using Scholl athletes foot treatment (after flushing out with salty water) as after the snow went Cinny has got a touch of thrush - much less smelly.... so we will report back.... |
    
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MirandaToo
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England
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Posted - 15 Jan 2011 : 10:39:32 PM
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Thanks for the above advise!
Be interesting to see how the athletes foot works!
he's shod Mrs Vlacq! Farrier should be here in week or so, so will get him to look as well. Pony is only with us on a loan from a friend, so don't want him to have any problems!!
Might have just been v lucky in the past, but none of previous neddies have had it. Think maybe it's because we've gone from frozen, hard ground to deep mud in a matter of weeks 
Pony is out day and night (other than coming in to be ridden/pampered) - he doesn't really like being in! Just wondering whether I should make him come in off the mud for a few nights to keep feet drier, or whether it won't make much difference?
Will give the above a go. Hadn't thought about cleaning hoofpick and brush - makes sense!!
Thanks again x |
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oliviaw
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Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 08:55:44 AM
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| Can I recommend the Kevin Bacon Hoof Solution Moly is very prone to thrush and when her feet are a bit smelly, you can just stick it on as a preventative as well :) |
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Etoile
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Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 11:23:23 AM
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| I have had problems with thrush with all three in the past and found that for mild cases or for prevention painting the feet with solution 4 feet every few days works wonders, and if the infection is worse I combine that with some double concentration canestan (athletes foot treatment) |
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 10:29:06 AM
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| It seems athletes foot treatment has a variety of uses it cleared up mud fever for one of mine too, only about £3 too cheaper than going to the vet. |
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Julie Bridges
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Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 1:04:10 PM
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Many years ago I bought a part bred with severe thrush in both front feet - a probe went in at the back of the frog for about 1.5 inches!!
It cleared up completely over time.
After peroxiding etc. I'd pack it out with stockholm tar and then seal it off with gauze / cotton wool pushed into the crevice and paint the lot over with stockholm tar to keep it clean and dry. I did this every other day after digging out the tarry plug.
If the stockholm tar was to stiff, my farrier told me to add a bit of cod liver oil to make it a bit more runny. He said the oil also nourished the foot.
I expect treatmemts have improved since then, but it worked fo me - or rather - it workd for my horse!
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shah
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Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 6:39:00 PM
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Personally I would never use peroxide as it stings and can hurt them. My lad also suffers from thrush on/off and I have successfully used the Pioneer scrub and balm, it's all herbal and they also do a stronger pack if needed. Athlete's foot cream work on some, but not mine. I've also tried stockholm tar and solutions4feet and neither worked. If it's a bad case I'd CleanTrax it but most arabs hate the big blue boots they have to wear for that.
The cheapest solution is salt water in a spray bottle, sprayed every day after cleaning. Works fine for light cases. |
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Cinnypony
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Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 7:38:04 PM
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We tried clean trax last spring - managed to keep the boot on the worst hoof before she let all hell loose to rid herself of the boot.
Luckily it was just long enough to do the job, but won't dare ever to do it again!
After that we used dilute cider vinegar which worked really well.
Unfortunately with the wet since the snow it's come back. |
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nerissanic
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England
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Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 8:53:16 PM
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| hello, at the risk of being shot down in flames - but i hope not as this really did work - i have used plain neat thick bleach, applied in the cracks (fulchi?) of the frog with a 1cm wide paint brush, twice weekly, 3x if really necessary, while the thrush was bad. it can be applied to the frog also but very carefully and only if the frog is thrushy too. afterwards, when i didn't need to use the bleach i used the blue sheep footrot spray - only about once a week as it is vicious stuff and i found it made them sore above their heels as it wasn't always easy to get it where i wanted it, then when it was only a precaution to stop it coming back i used the purple foot spray. also, twice daily picking out their feet and my farrier keeping an eye on it and advising me helped. the boys i look after had a really wet winter paddock and it took me 2 yrs to get rid of it as everytime it rained they got it back. unfortunately they have a light touch of it again now due to the wet after the snow and now the constant rain and the pesky mud. they live out 24/7 and have always done so but this coming winter they will hopefully have a turnout area attached to their shelter which will keep them out of the mud. hope this helps, nic x |
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kimzi
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Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 8:59:44 PM
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| OMG nerissanic, have you seen and felt what will happen to your hands when you leave neat bleach on your hands it causes burns!! Canestan is a fab solution for treatment and far kinder and effective than any of the other solutions. If in doubt you can always ask a vet or chiropodist. |
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nerissanic
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England
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 8:39:44 PM
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hello kimzi,
yes, i use bleach without gloves to clean my loo! it really does not burn me and i have very clean(!) hands after too!! more seriously though, i was always very careful when applying it, and only applied it sparingly on the sides of the frog. it really does work and the boys were very interested in what i was doing. i would apply it, keep the hoof as flat as possible so it didn't run off anywhere and when the fizzing had died down put the hoof back down. the boys never objected or jumped around or were silly. the welshie was lame with thrush and the shetland was very tender when picking out his hooves so i had a look about dealing with thrush on the internet and found it there - i thought it was worth a try as i just couldn't shift it. i did speak to my farrier and vet about it too and they had no objections, and like i said, it really did work. i honestly wouldn't purposely do anything to harm my lot but i was desperate and couldn't bear seeing the boys so unhappy. it cetainly got into the crevices and sorted the thrush out as with the brush you can get into the areas you can't with anything else. i don't think i would use it on a mild case but the boys were quite bad and my farrier did keep his eye on what i was doing. nic x |
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Geena
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 9:37:05 PM
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| My Farrier was fabulous with thrust advice. He likes to keep things simple and effective. He told me to pick out the feet everytime he comes in or goes off the yard, which I do anyhow, but also to wash the affected feet with warm sea salted water. 1 tablespoon of sea salt to 1 litre of warm water. Once all perfectly clean use purple spray and effol when feet are dry. Touch wood this has been a cheap, non-invasive treatment that has worked really well. He did say in warm wetweather the condition can get worse so just keep leaning them as the more air that gets to the rea the less the fungal infection get get a hold. I now only use treatment once a week as a precaution, but when zeb had it bad it was every day until I got on top of it. |
  
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kimzi
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 12:10:49 AM
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| Hi nic, sorry if you thought i was over reacting, part of having a chiropodist mother who has seen people mutilate their own feet to get rid of fungal infections without visiting the doctor. Personally i would'nt use bleach on any part of a horse but then again i have never had a horse with a severe thrush problem as i have a preventative routine to avoid any of those types of problems, mine also don't live out which helps as they don't have to spend long periods on muddy ground. Twice daily cleansing with using something life effol hufsalbe after keeps it all at bay :). |
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nerissanic
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 8:13:26 PM
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| hello kimzi, i don't think you were overreacting at all - i did do a fair bit of umming and ahhing before i tried it out and wqs very sceptical too. i can well imagine what some people might do to themselves aswell!! my problem is i don't have - as yet - anywhere dry to put the boys, but i think my constant moaning and nagging and having a recent total blow-up has convinced my boyfriend mud is not good and a dry turnout area is a must!! nic x |
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marengo
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 : 10:48:13 AM
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Great article on managing frogs for maximum health http://www.hoofrehab.com/frogtrim.htm
It's written for barefooters, but to be honest, the information is still relevant even if you shoe your horse. As Ramey mentions in this article, you have to watch out for creating more necrotic tissue with very strong products. Also, if you use something that creates some initial soreness, it can tip the horse into landing toe first rather than heel first and that's not good either.
'As gentle as possible whilst still be effective' could be a good guideline (for a lot of things..) |
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MirandaToo
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 : 8:45:30 PM
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Sorry guys, this is all really useful advice and I will read and digest properly...
BUT, at the mo, I'm just giggling myself silly over Geena's statement - "My farrier was fabulous with THRUST advice"!!! ooo-eeer!!
Sorry, it's late (for me!!) and nearly the weekend and I'm being puerile  !! Must grow up... must grow up... |
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tillyben1
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Posted - 21 Jan 2011 : 12:44:11 AM
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My boy has got thrush i was also wondering about using peroxide, do you leave it on the hoof once ot has fizzed or wash it off.
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linda
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Posted - 21 Jan 2011 : 8:52:12 PM
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Hi Tillyben1,
You do not need to wash or rinse it off, just repeat daily with 10% until it stops fizzing,
Lx
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tillyben1
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thrush and peroxide (him, not me!!)
