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george
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 :  10:08:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When I fell in love with Arabs as a teenager (gonna be 40 in a few weeks, ouch!!) I loved their little paint brush tails and I am sure if the horse is turned out naturally then am I right in thinking it will stay nice and short, and in my opinion looks perfect,but when did they start getting soooo long?? I shall go hide now in case I've upset anyone (not my intention, honestly)

George xxx
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kezziecrj5
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 :  10:10:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit kezziecrj5's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add kezziecrj5 to your friends list Send kezziecrj5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
haha my boys tail is 3 inch on the ground and get longer, i cringe every time he stands on it, and I really don't want to cut it :P

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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 :  11:05:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No you aren't. My stallion is out during the day and in at night and his tail sweeps the ground; fabulous! I don't bag it etc. In the winter I plait it and tie it up otherwise it gets a huge ball of mud at the end and I have to wash it every evening and then it is wett and cold down his back legs all night, the plait keeps it sort of clean and dry.

It is a lot to do with genetics, some horses naturally have lovely long tails and others don't. Personally I love the long tails and don't like the little wispy ones; to me an Arab should have a long mane and tail.

Barbara

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george
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 :  11:14:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Surely the plaiting in the winter "does" help to stop the natural breakage though??

George xxx
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Kharidian
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 :  11:16:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Roger lives out 24/7 and his tail touches the ground when at rest. He has exceptionally fine hair (his mane is as fine as human hair). I do not bag or plait his tail, I spray mane & tail de-tangler in it at least twice per week and comb it out very seldom. In the winter I dunk the bottom few inches in a bucket of water every so often if it is grubby. That's all!

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Jess.And.Tiger
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 :  11:22:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jess.And.Tiger to your friends list Send Jess.And.Tiger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love long tails <3 <3 <3

I love long manes too but Tiger has rubbed basically all his mane out HA HA but makes up for it with his lovely long tail <3

xxx
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 :  11:25:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have to trim Prince's tail or he steps backwards onto it and heaves chunks out!!


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Delyth
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  07:31:42 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hate it ....... sorry !! I think it affects the tail carriage and can make the tail set appear lower. The best tail carrying Arabians are the Russians and they usually only have a few wisps !!!
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Karon
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  08:22:39 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Karon to your friends list Send Karon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've got 3 with long tails (although I did have to attack one with scissors at the end of winter - sacrilege!), 1 with a medium length tail and one with quite a short wispy one. All related horses, too My only complaint about the ones with long tails is the state they get in over winter, as they all live out and are hardly ever groomed - I should think if I had time to groom all their tails through every week they'd be a bit shorter and definitely cleaner.
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jo78
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  09:04:52 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jo78 to your friends list Send jo78 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I trim my mares tail to just above ground length because i worry if i dont then if she stepped back onto it whilst riding she might have a lol. Also if i plaited the bottom, and she swished her tail and hit herself she might too!..maybe im just paranoid?????

Would love to grow it long though..full tails look fab x





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tamila
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  09:38:07 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tamila to your friends list Send tamila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My horses have always lived out 24/7 and they have long tails. One family have them trailing on the floor so I have to trim occasionally and the other is just above her fetlocks. The Arab does usually have a long tail as we cannot trim them or pull them so I suppose that in the desaert they had natural tails and manes.

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Mrs DJ
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  10:50:30 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs DJ to your friends list Send Mrs DJ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My mares tail touches the floor when she's at rest. She sometimes self trims it, by stepping backwards onto it.
However, she carries it much higher when we're out riding - no chance of her standing on it then!!

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LIV
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  2:09:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LIV to your friends list Send LIV a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Do you mean like this?




Ali's tail was bagged over winter and it just kept growing. It looked lovely when he was ridden as it just skimmed the ground when he held his tail up so I left it. I have now trimmed it so it's a few inches off the ground when it's not plaited!

Some people hate it but I'm not apologising for it as it's all down to personal taste


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JuliaB
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  2:40:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JuliaB to your friends list Send JuliaB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I totally agree Liv!

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Roseanne
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  3:03:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry to be 'functional' about it but I think the natural way for any horse is that its tail grows until a few hairs get trodden on and pulled out so it should stay a natural length - which if you pull it around should just about reach its shoulder (or so) and thus be able to protect it against flies.

I'm not happy about too much plaiting and bagging, especially outside for that reason.

I tend to agree with Delyth about the aesthetics too. A very long tail (as seen in stable kept show horses that never do go out with a natural tail to protect it) can really affect the proportion of the horse, and as Delyth says, the tail-set.

I've known of horses whose tails have been 'bagged' (as we were once instructed to do at a showing seminar - plaited, wrapped in vetwrap, tied up and kept like that all winter in a bag with some frayed string on the end to act as the tail when it swished) that have got their 'tail' caught and pulled the lot out! Hence tail to the dock and having to grow all over again.

It's a bit of an 'overload' to my mind.

Roseanne
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Jamana
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  4:27:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jamana to your friends list Send Jamana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IMO a long tail makes a horse look weak behind.

Though it can also hide a multitude of sins....................

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george
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  5:03:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Delyth

I hate it ....... sorry !! I think it affects the tail carriage and can make the tail set appear lower. The best tail carrying Arabians are the Russians and they usually only have a few wisps !!!
I love little paint brush tails too, I think they look perfect and totally suit the Arabian horse

George xxx
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  6:20:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can't think I have ever disagreed with you, Delyth, but we will agree to disagree on this one. Hate little wispy tails. My old gelding had a lovely long tail until he was in a field of cows and they ate most of it. It never did grow back to it's original glory. He was a flaxen chestnut and it was gorgeous.

Barbara

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littlearabians
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  6:34:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit littlearabians's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add littlearabians to your friends list Send littlearabians a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sitting here thinking if I'm a bit thick... what is a little paint brush tail??? would anyone post a picture please

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sayeeda
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  6:52:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sayeeda to your friends list Send sayeeda a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why cant my arab's have lovely long tails like 'Ali' his is beautiful Praague my Polish boy has a fairly long thick tail Sayeeda my Crabbett has a shortish wispy tail Do you think if i washed them with Pantenne (sp) they would have hair like Cheryl Cole???
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Evie
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  10:02:43 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Evie's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Evie to your friends list Send Evie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tara's tail touches the ground when she's at a standstill, as soon as she moves though it rises up so she doesn't tread on it at all. If I saw anyone near it with scissors I'd be very angry!!

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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  10:32:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sayeeda

With hair extensions, yes!

Barbara

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misterei
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Posted - 20 Jun 2010 :  10:49:47 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add misterei to your friends list Send misterei a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi LittleArabians

I think this is what people mean by Paintbrush tail, but I might be wrong, (if so somebody is bound to correct me)

I am always waiting for hers to grow like our others but it never does. They all live out most of the year, except winter nights and hot summer days, if possible. One with the longest tail treads on it in winter and it does ball up with mud. We tend to wash it when it is really disgusting and to remove the brambles when they get caught up in it, but leave it to nature unless it is tangled, same with the manes, call me lazy...

it must be personal preference for length as our are all Russian bred and have different length tails



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sayeeda
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Posted - 20 Jun 2010 :  10:53:52 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sayeeda to your friends list Send sayeeda a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Barbara

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Delyth
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Posted - 20 Jun 2010 :  11:26:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't mean I like wispy tails !! Just that the Russians seem to have less tail and can flip them better than anything. I like a natural look of tail.....I really don't like the dragging on the floor behind look. My Salaa El Dine daughter has an incredibly thick tail and long if I'd let it and I'm forever thinning it. It makes her look coarse - if that makes sense !!
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Delyth
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Posted - 20 Jun 2010 :  11:36:20 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message  Reply with Quote


This is her thinned out - it just gets incredibly thick. If you baggged it there would be miles of it !! It's very strong hair too, doesn't seem to break. JMO I don't like it so I chop it off !!
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