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BabsR
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 Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 4:03:14 PM
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Karens Kharisma is an Anglo daughter of our old boy whom we lost June this year. Kharisma belongs to a friend of ours and was born here and has stayed for her almost 21years.
She came in lame christmas eve with bruising to the bulb of her heel
Very lame today so Vet called in. We suspected foot infection...found nothing..nerve blocked...still very lame. No swelling or sign of any injury elsewhere on her leg. Flexed her leg backwards, which really hurt her. Suspected pelvic damage....internal examination revealed nothing...so, suspected fracture of the femur and said she should be PTS
Gave her massive bute, after which she was weight bearing and walking on that leg. Still has not ruled out fracture.....
Another Vet out tomorrow..... worried sick for this beautiful kind and trusting mare. We know if she has a fracture we have no alternative but to say goodbye....but I am not at all convinced....and feel she should be given more time and a snap decision without proof is not the way to go. Her distraught owner,breeder is in bits.
Please send healing vibes for this lovely kind mare who deserves more time and a chance to get better. Hopefully vets are not always right
Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk
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natntaz
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 4:08:09 PM
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Wishing a nice outcome for this obviously much loved
mare. Lets hope vet has got it wrong and there is
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Honeyb060674
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sab2
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 4:30:45 PM
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| Oh how awful for you all right at christmas, i will say a little prayer for her tonight and keep my fingers and toes crossed for you all.Lots and lots of healing vibes coming your way good luck Kharisma xxxx |
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buffy
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 5:15:00 PM
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Oh Babs, how very sorry I was to read this post. She sounds a lovely, and much loved, mare.
Go with your gut instinct, you know her best. Vets are not always right...
As you know all too well, we have been there with Buffy and quite a few times we were advised to pts.
If you can give her time and a chance, then you can do no more.
I hope and pray that she will be okay and you are in my prayers tonight.
Good luck,
Sandra
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BabsR
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 6:06:03 PM
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Thank you for your kind words which I am sure will be a comfort to Karen..and no one knows more than you Sandra, having so often been told to PTS the fantastic Buffy
My gut feeling is to keep Kharisma on strong painkillers for a while and see how she copes. She is eating and bright...could not possibly make the decision to PTS without definite proof of fracture. We can only keep our fingers crossed that the outcome will be good news
Babs
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rosie
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 6:13:22 PM
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Got my fingers crossed for you.
Good luck.
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trinity
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 6:25:29 PM
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| Oh. Keeping everything crossed for a positive outcome. Will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers. All the best. |
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mad alice
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 6:37:59 PM
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| best of luck with her. my heart sank when i read this post for behind every sick horse are heart broken owners who suffer as much if not more then their horses. be brave,alice x |
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 6:38:46 PM
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| Sending all prayers, positive thoughts and love for Kharisma.X |
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mogwai
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 6:40:36 PM
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Oh no, i'm so sorry. I hope she pulls through!
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moatside
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vjc
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 7:46:20 PM
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| Babs i have only just read this! poor karen and poor charisma I have also had my old girl Tara go quite lame on her hind foot christmas eve and was very worried too! i gave her some bute and was prepared to ring the vet christmas day if it was needed. Christmas day she was still quite lame but a little better and when i examined her sole i found a huge bruise near her heel where i am pretty sure she has banged her foot down hard on the hard frozen ground, today she is pretty well normal other than occasionally resting it. I am prepared to ring the vet tomorrow if she is still showing any soreness but i honestly believe these old horses are heavy footed as their joints are not so supple and the bad weather has not been good for them, i would have liked to keep my old girl in but she would have been so stressed as she does not do confinement!! I hope all works out fine with charisma and like others have said follow your very knowledgable instincts. |
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Kelly
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 7:59:12 PM
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| I'll be thinking of you all, with everything crossed. |
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angelarab
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honey
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 10:51:12 PM
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| aww poor mare. Can i just say my sister works at a raceyard and earlier in the year i was working and we took the horses to a gallop when they came home and come to take of the box he came off lame. Well he wasn;t that lame really had a chiro look at him who suspected a fractured pelvis, anyway everyone thought no way he wasn;t lame enough for that. anyway the following weekend everyone was away racing and i was looking after them he hadn;t moved the whole day, and when i came to move him he was shaking with the pain, phoned vet straight away who came out and was coming out to shoot him the next day drugged him up for the night. well the vet didn't make it and a few days he was improving slightly so they decided to drug him up and tied him so he couldn't get down and roll tied 24/7 and given 4 months box rest with the odd walk in hand at the start he was dragging the toe ect and suspected that he had displaced the fracture and putting pressure on the nerves. after 6 months of box rest basically he was taken down to troy town and they x rayed him to find out exactly what was what. he had a brake but not his main pelvis gave him an exercise programm and hes now back in training as fit as a fiddle and completely sound. so please don't give up hope so soon what can seem the worst out come with time can heal. xx |
    
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Gerri
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 12:04:21 AM
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| Please god it will be okay, sending big hugs and will say a prayer. please post us of an update, my thoughts are with you both |
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Callisto
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 12:31:33 AM
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| Fingers firmly crossed for her |
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Cate
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 12:50:50 AM
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really sorry to read this. i do hope this lovely mare pulls through.
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moonlight
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 08:23:52 AM
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| Adding my love and prayers for your lovely old girl, thinking of you all. x |
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Montikka
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 09:14:23 AM
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| Thinking of you all, and hoping that you have enough time to establish just what is wrong. xx |
   
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saddlebred
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 11:08:40 AM
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| Thinking of you all and loads of healing vibes for Kharisma. x |
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BabsR
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 11:31:47 AM
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After spending what was a very long stressful night, worrying and praying that today, devastating decisions may have to be made for the beautiful Kharisma, who has been a joy to care for all her life, for her equally shattered owner.
Kharisma still not weight bearing....still my gut feeling is that she does not have a fracture. Had talked matter over with Karen and we had decided that we would nor allow Kharisma to be PTS and ask the Vet to administer strong pain killers for several days...to give a chance to Kharisma...just in case their Vet was wrong!!
The senior Partner in the vet practice arrived at 9.00am....our hearts were in our boots. OMG, please do not let this be bad news.
He palpated all her hind quarter and leg, and manipulated it backwards forwards and outwards, with little reaction from Kharisma....I KNEW then it could not possibly be a fracture. Down to the foot...little reaction to the hoof testers, but flinched slightly on the front outer edge of her hoof. Started paring and suddenly, out gushed the most foul smelling pus.
Celebrations....the vet said what a tough cookie she is with such a bad abscess as she did not even react as he opened it up. I rushed to the phone to let Karen know the good news, and she was elated
When the other Vet, was yesterday giving is all the reasons why we should put Kharisma to sleep, as he was as sure as he could be that she had a fractured femur, I felt just as sure it WAS NOT a fracture
and Karen went along with me. Thank goodness!!!
We are not Vets and never ever try to be, but Kharisma would not be with us now, if we had not insisted we wait a few days!! He was even saying he would do a post mortem there and then, to confirm his diagnosis.
Think the morel of this is..........you know your own horse, and trust in your gut feelings, before making what would have been the most unjust decision for this very special and much loved mare. She is so much more comfortable now and sleeping peacefully on her nice deep warm bed
Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk
PS...Thank you all so very much for your kind words and healing vibes for Kharisma. Such a comfort. Karen is bringing pics over today, so will post same for you to see HAPPY NEW YEAR.
PPS...Kharisma`s Dam is also owned by Karen who bought Sunray Samantha off is shortly after weaning. Samantha is still going strong with us, aged 26years next month and her Dam Sunray Silhouette owned by another friend of ours is now rising 30years and still doing well
Sunray Samantha with newborn filly foal Karens Kharisma 1989
 Sunray Silhouette Dam of Sunray Samantha
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moatside
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rhoni
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 11:59:08 AM
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| OMG what a tragedy you have averted by listening to your own instincts! So pleased for you all. I wouldn't have the first vet back in a hurry!!!!!!!!!!! |
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