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Rozy Rider
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 Posted - 09 Sep 2009 : 11:13:11 PM
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Any info/ breeding on FLICKA, mare pre 1963 dam of the good jumping and PBAR pony CHAMP- 1963.
Wondering if there is any reference to Ficka and her breeding in the 1963 PBAR. alongside Champ..
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/champ4
Thanks Sue
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Edited by - Rozy Rider on 08 Dec 2009 11:37:19 AM
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saddlebred
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Posted - 05 Dec 2009 : 9:06:59 PM
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Hi Sue
Cant help with the breeding I am afraid but I have come across a picture of Flicka from a 1957 palomino magazine. She was a dun. Not best quality I am afraid.
The article with it says:
"Mr. OT Downs tells me that his dun mare FLICKA has this year foaled a filly by FOXALL (bay)." There is also a picture in the same magazine of a full brother to this filly who was standing at stud in 1957. His name was Little Gold Mine" |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 08 Dec 2009 : 11:19:57 AM
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Thanks Saddlebred, Good Work for the 1950'ies..
Leaving you the link and will add the stallion to.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/champ4
( Just a PS, I was with the transporter the day Grassendale Golden Rocket was dropped off at Shepley, he came from a sale, it might have been 1966???. - will never forget).
Leaving you the link to 'Little Gold Mine'
If you have any more info, like his colour or a pic, leave it for me and I'll load it up. He may be recorded in the PBAR as Little Gold Mine was by an Anglo Arab stallion and I have put a number on the mare FLICKA Number 85, as there are so many Flicka's.
Is she in anyway related to Ochre Golden Tan ????? can you tell me.
Will be a few days before they show up on allbreeds.
Thanks again
Sue.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&horse=LITTLE+GOLD+MINE2&g=5&cellpadding=0&small_font=1&l= |
Sue
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Edited by - Rozy Rider on 08 Dec 2009 11:43:49 AM |
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Lynda
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Posted - 09 Dec 2009 : 10:37:41 AM
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Sue,
In Vol 6 of the PBAR, there are two offspring of Flicka. Little Goldflake (1957) by Foxall AASB and Little Gold Shine (1958) also by Foxall. Both were Palomino and fillies. |
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Lynda
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Posted - 09 Dec 2009 : 10:54:14 AM
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Sue,
My memory has just recalled a conversation that I had with a very dear friend, who knew the Downes family who had Foxall at stud.
The story is that there was a dun mare who kept having Palomino foals to Foxall. That being the case she was sent to Bubbly and produced a dun foal. I wonder if that foal would be traceable? |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 09 Dec 2009 : 11:58:38 AM
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Hi Lynda, I only have PBAR Vol.X 1969 - 1970 ish.( let me know if you want to do a swop for VI... will look in X and see if there is anything of Ficka's offsprings by Bubbly.( Bubbly has a load of off springs recorded on allbreeds but nothing yet from Flicka).
I'm not sure what % arab Bubbly has/had,this would effect where the Bubbly foal was recorded and as it was dun would leave it ouit of the BPS. Saddlebred might get to the bottom of this with her old palo mags.
I have found another( or the same one) FLICKA II registered in the PBAR. Vol. VII, anyone help by checking to see how this mare is bred please and her owner and year of birth & Colour, must have some arab in there and the colour will confirm the one.
Keep at it.. Need a year of Birth for FLICKA....too
Thanks Folks..
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Edited by - Rozy Rider on 09 Dec 2009 12:23:45 PM |
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Lynda
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Posted - 09 Dec 2009 : 6:11:04 PM
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There is no mention of the breeding or colour of Flicka 11. She is down as being "breeding unknown". Phoned the NPS, and this is what they have. Flicka 11 ches roan mare born 1946 13h.h by Telegraph Roc
Flicka 111 1944 by Faille Rover (new forest)
Flicka 1V brown mare 1951. Sire unknown Dam Munstead Bun
Flicka V1 1954 by Gay Presto (GSB)
They looked through progeny of Bubbly, but could not find anything out of a mare called Flicka. Foxall is not registered with them.
I shall be speaking to my friend tonight, and shall ask about Flicka.
Sue, it took me years to find PBAR Vol V1 which was discovered in an old bookshop, and has Office copy written inside! I do have spare copies of Vol 9;11;17 if you are interested. |
Edited by - Lynda on 09 Dec 2009 8:25:23 PM |
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Melynda
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Posted - 09 Dec 2009 : 6:24:24 PM
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"I have found another( or the same one) FLICKA II registered in the PBAR. Vol. VII,"
Flicka II (PBAR VII p.58)
by Ludo (AHSB Vol IX)
ex May Lady (PBAR Vol VI)
Born 1964, chestnut, bred by Mrs J. W. Strickland |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 09 Dec 2009 : 6:33:57 PM
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Lynda, YES Please, put my name on 9. 11, & 17.
email me and will sort it.
Thanks Sue
rosyrider@dsl.pipex.com
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Melynda, I now think we are after a Dun mare foaled in the late 1940's or early 1950's.
Keep at it folks...
I've listed FLICKA as No. 85.
Cheers Sue |
Sue
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Edited by - Rozy Rider on 09 Dec 2009 8:02:37 PM |
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FLICKA -( dam of Champ 1962) Now with photo.
