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Kazzy
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  2:30:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Please, that I may have found a new yard!!!

I went to see a place last week that isnt advertised but had heard on the grapevine that there where vacant stables but he didnt want anyone else on. There is only 2 other people there and he is thinking about it. Its a long story to long to go into at the moment but he said he liked me and will try and accomodate me.

I have had the most awful morning down at the yard with those b*tches and I really cant take anymore of been made to feel that *I take everything and dont gave anything back*

Everyday last week bar Monday I poo picked all the fields on my own!! I went round yesterday filling rabbit holes in that took me over an hour!! I have fed everymorning this winter the girls horse who shares the field with mine!! I put her out and bring her in, change her rugs etc etc with not one bit of thanks!! And now they say I am going over the top about the grazing situation, they have been on a bare field for the last two weeks and have had to feed him morning and night and gave him hay morning and night.

They have just gone out yesterday in a small area with grass with no protection from the wind and rain and I asked if the fence could be taken down to the hedges so they could have protection and have been made to feel that I am out of order for asking!!!

I have just had a blazing row with them which resulted in me ending up in tears it was either tears or I was going to punch one of them. One of thems husband who i have always got along with came right upto my face effing and jeffing. My hubby wants to go down and in his own words *Punch his lights out* which i said wasnt advisable!!

Has I stormed off crying one of them came after me and said she didnt want me to leave ( They had said before if I dont like what they do down there then I know where the effing gate is) and said it had all got out of hand and we should all make up!!

I agreed but was so bloody angry I dont know how I kept my temper.

I cant stay there much more, I really cant. At the end of the day I just want to be somewhere where I am happy and so is Kazzy.

Sorry this is long I just need to get it off my chest. The upshot is I went back to this other place this lunchtime and told them now that I was desperate to move him and the lady who keeps her horse there could see I was upset and she is going to persuade him to let me come, (She has known this man for a long time and has some clout h=with him)

So please everybody keep your fingers crossed that he says *YES*
I really cant take much more, if push comes to shove then I can take him to a field on his own (Which I dont want to) for a few weeks but has no stable till I find something suitable.

Why, oh why do people have to behave like this.

All this from what I thought was a friend, I always got on with her
and have always had a laugh, I have stood by her through everything that she has gone through with the YO and then she repays me with this.

Anyway, thanks for reading feel a bit better now I have wrote it down

Janet



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Montikka
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  3:58:41 PM  Show Profile  Send Montikka an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Montikka to your friends list Send Montikka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh poor you Janet this situation does sound unbearable and I can see why you're desperate to get out.

I really don't understand why people seem to enjoy making other people's lives a misery, but some obviously do.

It's horrible to think of you being upset to the point of tears, and that brute shouting in your face is just taking things way too far.

Try to stay positive, look forwards to when you and Kazzy are out of that place and going to see him is a pleasure again.

GOOD LUCK with the new yard

Louise xx


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Kazzy
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  4:08:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Louise much appreciated.

I have tried to be patient with this friend who has in the past suffered with depression but this last month has made me changemy mind that all she is is just a backstabber who makes out she is in the right all the time.

It was only two agos that she was having a real go at the YO and made her storm off home and cry aswell.

She said today that she has been watching me what i do and that it is totally out of order me taking Kazzy down the lane for some grass!!!!! I was like WHAT!!!!!!! I cant even take him down the lane for some grass now.

Hubby says she has serious problems and I need to get away fromt here before it explodes. She was drinking cans of Stella at 9.30 am on Sunday Morning last week!!! that tells it all really.

I just cant beleive how upset I have been today and luckily I have a few good friends who can put me up temporary if they ask me to go until this other place comes available. It needs a new gate putting on this field so my Hubby who is a joiner has said he will ask him if he can do it and not charge anything at all.

Janet



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kathleen
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  4:14:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kathleen to your friends list Send kathleen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hope you have luck with the new place

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geegee
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  5:16:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add geegee to your friends list Send geegee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Janet,

I can completely sympathise with you. Before I had the horses at home I had them on a small farm where the yard owner was an alchoholic. One day he was all sweetness and light, the next he was an absolute . You never knew where you stood with him and your comment about the girls not liking you take your horse for grass down the lane just bought back a shuddering memory.

My old mare had a tendon injury and as she was highly strung (even though she was in her 30's!) the vet advised that it would be good if she could have a little paddock to herself so that she didn't weave in the stable. Yard owner said this was ok. Couple of days pass and then I arrive down the yard one evening and find another horse (one she hasn't been out with before!) out in the field with my injured mare!!! I couldn't believe my eyes. I have to say that I lost control and flipped at the yard owner and he told me to leave. The field was taken off of me and so I took to walking her in hand to get grass.
Yard owner took exception to this and told me that I wasn't allowed to do this either. At this point he was told where to go!

I used to absolutely dread going to the yard and felt like the outsider. I felt physically sick before going.

I found another yard which was was a good 40min car journey to get to and knowing that we were in the process of relocating home, I moved them to this new yard and it was HEAVEN. The atmosphere was completely different. There was a proper contract in place and you knew exactly what to expect.

I really hope you get the answer YES from the new yard. You will feel so much better. By the sounds of things, those girls don't want you to leave because you do a hell of a lot more than they do.

Wishing you luck and will keep fingers firmly crossed....

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basbob
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  5:25:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add basbob to your friends list Send basbob a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good luck there's nothing worse than being at an unfriendly yard. You have to go there every day and it should be pleasant. My fingers are crossed for you.

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Kazzy
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  6:16:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well have just been back down to sort him out for the night and they were all sweetness and light!!

My Mum says just put on my smiley face and be pleasant, dont get involved and try and not be down there all the time when they are there.

The person who has caused all this by lieing through her back teeth about a conversation i had with her on Monday wasnt there, what a suprise, and yes I did her horse!!!!!!!!

It will never be the same again, I cant trust them anymore and need to get off sooner rather than later.

There is only so much I can smile about to them to be honest and I think this girl with the horse in my field has another motive!! her Aunt has just bought a horse a few weeks ago and has it stabled down the road in a ramshackled place (the best words to desribe it!!) and my Mum reckons her motives are to get me off and her on, because she spends more time at the yard than her own.

ANyway, the sooner i can leave them all too it and let them get on with it the better.

Janet x



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Montikka
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  6:28:16 PM  Show Profile  Send Montikka an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Montikka to your friends list Send Montikka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep Janet - the Stella at 9.30 does say it all, I feel that you are seen as a strong person, hence all the bitching, as soon as they realised that you're only human, and can be hurt, they felt quite guilty about upsetting you. All the same, it could happen again, AND where alcohol's concerned, you'll be forever waiting for the next bust-up.

You are right - there probably are 'motives' i.e. getting the Aunt in, but isn't that incredibly unfair?

Your mum is right too - keep smiling, look forward to that new yard and enjoy the thought of how much more work they'll have to do when you're gone.

Life is short - ONE good friend is worth EVERYTHING xxx



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avanti
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  6:32:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add avanti to your friends list Send avanti a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Gerri
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  6:47:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh I am sooo sorry for you.....people can be soo unkind, I never understand it as you are all there to enjoy the loves of your life and life is so hard as it is, my heart goes out to you because I know how people can be and it really hurts, it hurts even more when its from someone that you have supported and stood by when their times are tough, I will keep everything crosses for you and say a prayer, you deserve some happiness with your horse and should be able to look forward to any time you get to spend with your horse, not dread going. Big hug to you x
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saddlebred
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  6:59:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add saddlebred to your friends list Send saddlebred a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Keeping everything crossed for you Janet. Lift is too short and the last thing you need is dreading to go to the one place where you should find most enjoyment. Good luck.

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angelarab
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  9:09:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ditto fingers crossed, we all deserve to enjoy our time with our horses not worry about who we might bump into, some people are just so hateful

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Vera
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  11:24:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is nothing worse than having the sanctuary of the place where your horse is being blighted like this. Sounds like you will be well out of there....


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Goldenmane
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  05:49:15 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Everything crossed for you and a new place! I think you have been very restrained, to your credit, because if someone told me what to do with my horses I think I could easily become quite violent. Luckily on my own now! And well done for still doing her horse, after all its not the horses fault, poor thing being owned by her!

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Kazzy
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  2:45:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well thats it. I'm Going

Been down today to see the yard owner and have arranged for him to go there. The field is a bit too big but am going to fence it off with electric fencing till the haymaking has been done then he's going to sort something more permanent out.

Now to get the little monkey in a box the last few times he has been really naughty and has kicked up a fuss!!

Cant wait to get him moved now.

Janet



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precious
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  2:56:15 PM  Show Profile  Click to see precious's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add precious to your friends list Send precious a Private Message  Reply with Quote
congrats and well done for finding new yard :)
At least you can enjoy spending time with your horses without those nasty people!
xx good luck


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Kazzy
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  3:31:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone know any body that transports horses in Cheshire?

Am struggling to find someone. All the contact i had have given up doing it or have sold their wagons.

I cant walk him its too far

Janet



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angelarab
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  3:37:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well done, bet your on cloud nine...
Have you googled horse transport, i am sure i have seen a few, even one set up in Wrexham now.

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Kazzy
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  4:31:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh God this is getting behond a joke now!!!

I dont know what to do, Help me please.

The lady who virtually has the run of the place who was very nice when I met has now said that my Farrier is not allowed on her yard!! She had a row with him about 2 years ago and said she is insistent that he was not allowed on the yard. She uses a different vet than me and says she doesnt like my vet either!!

Now I have been using my farrier for 6 years and has been absoluetly wonderful when all that was going on with Bazz and her laminitis, he is the main farrier for the vet I use and also the farrier for the local private equine hospital in Knutsford!!

Am I jumping out of the frying pan into the fire by moving him now!!

I have been offered a field with my friend who I have known for over 6 years and we get along brilliantly, she is such a lovely person but
there is no stables there at the moment. The owner of the place I know extremely well, we used to rent the cottage of his mother now she has died he has taken over everything. When I went to see him yesterday about something temporary he didnt hesitate and said *If you want to bring him now bring him I will always find something for you*

My friend Yvonne has said to go and see him again and see if I can put up a field shelter so he can go in there if the weather changes
or I need to stable him.
Oh my god what should i do?

If I am having second thoughts already I dont think i should move him.

What would you do? Would you change your farrier and vet to accomodate her, and what if something else goes wrong she doesnt like.





Janet



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Montikka
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  4:35:21 PM  Show Profile  Send Montikka an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Montikka to your friends list Send Montikka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well done Janet - you'll be skipping down to see Kazzy (once you've got him moved), sorry not closer so can't help with transport.

Much less work for you now too - yay


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Kazzy
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  4:40:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Luoise read the post I put up probably at the same time you wrote yours.

I am sat here bloody crying again and I dont know what to do.

Janet



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geegee
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  5:49:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add geegee to your friends list Send geegee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Being told that my farrier and vet aren't liked and not welcome on her yard would ring alarm bells for me.... The fact that she has strong opinions about them says something about her character.

Will your horse have company with the field option? If so, I would go for that and ask if you could put a shelter up. At least you can look for another yard at your leisure and make sure that you are "Completely" happy before moving.....

Good luck
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deebee
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  7:22:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add deebee to your friends list Send deebee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So sorry to hear about all your troubles! Now you may want to shoot me but I shouldn't worry too much about the lack of stable on your friend's field; everything else sounds much better and like geegee says, there's already alarm bells for this other place. I know lots of horses who live out - mine do too - with NO harm to them at all; and you've got time to sort out a shelter if you feel the need to. I also know of many who have a shelter that never gets used, 'coz the horses simply choose to be out all weathers!

Does that help at all? good luck!
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Zan
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  7:36:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just read this all at once---what a roller coaster. For what it's worth there is no way I would change my vet or farrier to accomodate other people. I know from your other posts how much help your farrier has been to you and good farriers are thin on the ground---hold on to him!, and a vet you trust is also something worth holding on to.The field sounds the best option ---though I know you worry about laminitis so won't want him out 24/7 probably----but, some of the big stables companies do actual stables, as opposed to field shelters, on skids, so I think you don't need planning permission for them.I agree with Geegee though---he would need company.

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Kazzy
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Posted - 09 Jun 2009 :  08:07:52 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Right here goes another long one.

Went to see Andy the field owner last night and he wasnt there he was round at his Brothers Roger's!!!! Now Roger lived next door to his Mum who had 3 horses before she died, one of the horses went off to live somewhere else and he has been left with the other two!! and he has stables and about 25 acres of land that he doesnt know what to do with. Anyway, Spoke to Andy and he said I could bring him in the field and I said I really needed somewhere to put him for arest or if the weather turned and then Roger piped up what about Mum's stables, they need work doing and mucking out and as long as I dont bring loads of people down with me I could have the run of the place He didnt want the place turning into a livery yard with loads of horses and people.

I said I would look after his Mum's two into the bargain, because in all fairness he hasnt got a clue about horses and I know one of them suffered in the past with laminitis and she is just chucked out in the field. Anyway, I am phoning him tonight or tomorrow to they were going into a meeting about his Mum's old house about what they were going to do with it so I didnt want to hold them up because the other brother arrived.

I will be on my own but my friend Yvonne is literally 5 minutes walk away up the road were I would have liked to have gone but obviously no stables so....

Fingers crossed again for me that this all works out.

I said to Roger it might not be long term and I will look around for something thats right in the meantime and he said he was seriously thinking about having stables built in the field opposite his house
away from him (the stables now are in his back garden) so you never know!!

Can I just say thanks for everyone who has helped me with this I was such a dither yesterday, and I need to go with my gut instincts on this, if she is laying the law down about Darren my farrier what will
she start doing next.

No way am I getting rid of Darren or my vet they have been absolutely
brilliant to me and especially when I had all that with Bazz and her laminitis I couldnt have found a more caring loving vet and for that matter a Farrier. Darren came that day to say goodbye to her before I had her PTS and he left crying because he was that upset that he couldnt do anymore for her. Now that to me speaks volumes and he is highly regarded in this area, I mean most of the vets use him and like I said the local private equine hospital use him aswell.

Thanks anyway. I will let you know how i get on.

Oh and Btw I could walk him over so wouldnt need to find transport.

Janet



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nikki
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Posted - 09 Jun 2009 :  10:27:46 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
crikey janet!

what a rollercoaster!

i would personally never get rid of my vet or farrier.

this latest bit of news sounds good plus you are only 2mins from your friend
hope you get something sorted

pagey
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