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JESSIEMAE
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  2:44:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JESSIEMAE to your friends list Send JESSIEMAE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Delyth

The auctioneers hammer went down at £720, life has taught me that means nothing, they probably ran her up & truth beknown the dealer gave a couple of hundred for her. Don't be taken in by the £720 - it means nothing !!


Interesting post Delyth, I must confess to knowing nothing at all about auctions. I have never been to a livestock auction/sale, probably just as well as I would sure to be coming home with something!

Liza
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navaho621
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  3:30:30 PM  Show Profile  Click to see navaho621's MSN Messenger address  Send navaho621 a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add navaho621 to your friends list Send navaho621 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very true & a good point Delyth, i took a horse through the ring at Llanybydder for a friend a few years ago & he was bid upto around the 700 mark as well & as i was leaving the ring the auctioneer told me he hadnt sold & he had been taking empty bids on the horse!! I will see if i can find out if she did genuinely sell at that price or not, if it helps?
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  3:45:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good idea, does anyone know anyboby that was there??????. I spoke to a pal of mine who was on the sidelines, at the sale and he told me that Jerry bought the mare and that there were several folks after her and bidding on her, Jerry took her in the end for £1650 and she did go home with him....

Who was there and saw the bidding....so who can straighten it all out and find us the truth.
Bride spoke to Mr Beaman yesterday, I think he was at home as he was on the landline. maybe Mr B had got someone he was bidding for who wanted the mare. Jerry is a dealer, there's no way he's not going to be looking to sell the mare on..... thats the trade he's in.

and what was that about the mare making a journey to Scotland???? Could it be Cumbria??????

and don't forget in Germany they put skin...all shades. spots stripes etc etc. on there coats,handbags and shoes..there's a trade in skin too. Would'nt be the first time we've seen spotted's in the chester place. Most of the skins head to France for gloves anyway.
and they nornally kill on a Friday, if its as it was before.
God I bet he'll be spitting bricks if she's gone on the truck with the other straight to Chester for last Frday. Anyone thought of having a chat to the them there. Sometimes they can be helpfull.

So who saw her sold at the sale??????
Sue

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 05 Jun 2009 12:29:44 AM
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navaho621
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  3:52:24 PM  Show Profile  Click to see navaho621's MSN Messenger address  Send navaho621 a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add navaho621 to your friends list Send navaho621 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ive been in contact with the girl who rode Montana around the ring, so she should know how much she made.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  3:55:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well if she was that close to the vender, she'd have had some fair idea where she's gone them, how about asking her...
Cheers Sue

Sue
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precious
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  3:57:06 PM  Show Profile  Click to see precious's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add precious to your friends list Send precious a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mr X is at appleby, we still think the lovely mare has already been sold . Investigations in progress x


Gemma Thompson
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navaho621
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  4:01:39 PM  Show Profile  Click to see navaho621's MSN Messenger address  Send navaho621 a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add navaho621 to your friends list Send navaho621 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sue, ive already sent her a message to find out how much she genuinely sold for, thats if she actually knows (she has already been kind enough to let me know who had bought her, hence how you all now know she was sold to Beaman)...we shall just have to see what happens.
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alison
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  5:45:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alison to your friends list Send alison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe Montana is now at Abbleby, I was just about to post and ask if anyone would be attending when I saw in the previous post that Mr Beaman is at Abbleby. I have a gut feeling he has taken Montana with him?

Ali
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bexr
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  9:05:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bexr to your friends list Send bexr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm going up to appleby, I know lots of people that travel. Can someone PM me who this MR X is ?

Bex
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 :  12:24:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My pal told me who'd bought her and that there were several after her and that they were bidding against each other, and the price went to more than that....and that the horse had gone to Scotland. Cumbria is'nt too far away.
Sue

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Sahir
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 :  07:55:46 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sahir to your friends list Send Sahir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is there any definite news that Mr Beaman has sold her - or is it just rumour & speculation. He could after all just be saying he's sold her to get everyone off his back. If she's now in a good home and will be well looked after I will stop my connections searching for her.

Really appreciate someone advising me, thank you - a PM would be ideal under the circs.

Elaine x
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Claire
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 :  3:29:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Claire to your friends list Send Claire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hi could some one pm me to update me on the situation as I have been away on a uni placement all week and have been thinking about montana- also to reiterate that we may be able to offer a lifelong home

Many Thanks and I hope theres good news


Suffolk
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Offira
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 :  8:54:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Offira to your friends list Send Offira a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just wondered if there was any news about the sales tomorrow. Are there enough people covering Melton and Appleby?
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navaho621
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Just to let you all know, if there is still any speculation on what price she sold for & whether she actually sold in the ring or not,that ive just had it confirmed she definately sold in the ring to Mr Beaman at 720 guineas. I doubt from this she has been sold on for meat, thank God!! I just hope he already had a buyer lined up & she is tucked up safe in a stable some where!
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Delyth
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  06:56:30 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really hope so. Why didn't he just say that, if he'd have said yes I bought her but already had a buyer lined up we'd have thought great she's got a home. He's a dealer that's what he does, deals.....but why the line saying he won't sell her. Perhaps it is a straight forward situation but one that has been made more difficult by an odd man !!
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  09:07:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DenmoorStud to your friends list Send DenmoorStud a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am always dubious of dealers, they are a pretty cagey lot in general, perhaps there is some thing he would rather we didn't know. After all it is all about profit margin. I would like to thank those AL members who so diligently keep watch on the sales on our behalf, and keep us informed. Thankyou


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Lynda
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  12:25:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lynda to your friends list Send Lynda a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have contacts in Scotland if you think she has gone up there. Let me know if I can be of any help.
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precious
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  6:55:08 PM  Show Profile  Click to see precious's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add precious to your friends list Send precious a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep denmoor i agree with you, thank god someone saw that she was due at the sale and posted it on here, shame no one off here got her but fingers crossed one day she will be found!
x


Gemma Thompson
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AliH
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  9:49:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AliH to your friends list Send AliH a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone

We still haven't located Montana, but we are following up on a few leads.

Please keep your eyes out for her just in case she is seen or someone knows of her whereabouts.

Thank you to everyone who has passed on information it has been really helpful and I'm sure we will find her with so many people looking for her!

Thanks so much xx
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jasjmm
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  11:26:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jasjmm to your friends list Send jasjmm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suspect as someone else stated Delyth, that he thought by saying he would not sell he would get everyone off his back. Will keep an eye out SW/Bristol way. xx



Bristol
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JESSIEMAE
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Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  1:30:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JESSIEMAE to your friends list Send JESSIEMAE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just bumping this back up! Is there any further information with the leads that are being followed up? I can't believe that Montana seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth! Sombody must know something, even if it is bad news

Liza
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Delyth
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Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  1:42:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Ha ha he doesn't know women very well then Mary !!!!
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Zarena
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Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  2:07:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zarena to your friends list Send Zarena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My friend says all the horses have gone from this dealer's field next to her. She thinks he has sprayed it. She will keep a keen look out for when they return.
What I don't understand is why a dealer would want to put off potential purchasers as some of you have said before. Either he had a buyer waiting or he is getting her in better condition so she makes more money. There are often mares with foals in the field so another alternative is he might be going to breed from her. Unless already sold she will be available sooner or later; it's what he is in business for. I doubt he has put her in another market yet if she was thin. He will want to maximise his profit and grass is cheap at this time of year.
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Gerri
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Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  3:10:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK just a thought, but....... years ago I used to front at the sales for a dealer and vice versa, not because he was a bad man or anything quite the opposite actually, but if people knew he was bidding for something sometimes the price went up so he would ask me. and on other occasions he would bid for something so I was not taken advantage of if it was being sold by another dealer, sorry to put yet another angle on this sale but have been following the thread of this from the beginning and really wish I could do something constructive to help, but I have to say what a marvelous lot you are not to give up on this mares plight, if I can help in anyway I will, I too would love to read "Happy Ending"
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jasjmm
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Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  3:24:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jasjmm to your friends list Send jasjmm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, I agree Delyth! Best detectives in the world, women! Especially when it comes to either men or horses...! ;)



Bristol
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