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madmare
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  12:11:11 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add madmare to your friends list  Reply with Quote
here's Crystal's pedigree....she does have a Nura in there, but not the Nuhra.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/crystal+atlantis

Emma xx
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tamila
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  06:54:48 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tamila to your friends list Send tamila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Monique, Tamila is the first one in my signature with Ramak Gold at foo, Ramak is the second picture and Rimarli is in the third. My computer is playing up at present so cannot post one of Roxaana. There is one of her with her half-sister on another post I think it was called Sisters. She is actually almost the spitting image of Rissla even down to the leg markings.


Edited by - tamila on 13 Nov 2008 06:59:52 AM
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arabmare18
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  07:49:19 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add arabmare18 to your friends list Send arabmare18 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi
My boy PS Kabali traces back to Nuhra through Zehraa
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ps+kabali


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kastell
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  10:07:26 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kastell to your friends list Send kastell a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi, my partbred mare Mishkov www.allbreedpedigree.com/mishkov had Nuhra in her pedigree, Pic attached. LT, Szareen is lovely, I love her sire Zalim, Mishkov's half brother Golden Zenith is also by Zalim, I'm attaching a pic of him, he's now 21.



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LT
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  11:11:54 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LT to your friends list Send LT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi in response I would love to breed from Szareen at some point the people who bred her have a nice stallion Hussain by Crusader that they have been using on her mother and producing nice types from.

On a different note I see Lila is related to my old mare Aywah (who unfortunately died a couple of years ago aged 24) through Mehriz who was her sire. She was a typical Crabbet. I attach a picture of her in her last summer.
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kathleen
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  11:32:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kathleen to your friends list Send kathleen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is the most recent photo of Alliya







They are about september time she is huge now her stable rugs do not fit and she is not due untill end of May

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Indalo
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  4:09:48 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Indalo's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Indalo to your friends list Send Indalo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is my Nuhra relative through her sire Santanna



http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/maria+maria+bint+santanna

Indalo
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Miska
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  5:25:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Miska's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Miska to your friends list Send Miska a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow looks as though alot of Nuhra's descendents are chestnut with flaxen mane and tails! I see lots of beautiful horses that look like Miska.

Miska's parents are liver chestnut and bay, so I wonder if her chestnut colour comes from Nuhra's line


RIP Ettie 2003 - 2010
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Lila
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Netherlands
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  8:51:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lovely all these Nuhra Arabs, and all so much like Lila.
Lorna what a lovely good looking girl your old lady was, and indeed also a lot like Lila.
I do not know were the flaxen/chestnut comes from, while Nuhra was a bay!!!
Alliya looks just like Lila when she was in foal, also very compact!!!
Our Lightning has red mane, but darker then his chestnut colour, he has the colour of his sire Coriolan.
Monique

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Lila
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Netherlands
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  8:52:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kim, Miska is gorgeous.
Monique

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madmare
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  11:23:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add madmare to your friends list  Reply with Quote
Lorna, your old lady looked a lot like Crystal....with the same head down thing going on as well..Crystal is a very food orientated mare!

Emma xx
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Moira
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Scotland
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  11:29:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moira to your friends list Send Moira a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have two Nuhra descendants

Zak..
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=EISOR+ZIGZAK




And (just to prove they're not all chestnut) Zhaazeer

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=EISOR+ZHAAZEER



My sister had Zatasha

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=EISOR+ZATASHA



And now has another grey Shalana

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=EISOR+SHALANA






***Zak******Zhaazeer*****Gremlin
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sayeeda
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England
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  09:32:48 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sayeeda to your friends list Send sayeeda a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is my mare descending form Nuhra.
Her name is Samraa Sayyida sorry cant do the link to all breed not clever enough







Trying lol http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/samraa+sayyida

Edited by - sayeeda on 14 Nov 2008 09:34:25 AM
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Lila
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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  07:14:54 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow the response is overwhelming. And all such nice looking ones.
The grey colour comes from Harasz, but I wonder about the flaxen/chestnut. Nuhra was a bay, but she was mainly bred to chestnuts although I saw one of the descendants was a chestnut out of Nuhra and the sire was bay as well.

@Claire, I did not know you have Nuhra Arabs??

@Emma, Crystal is very nice and she has Latawica in her, I just love that mare, if only I could breed one like Latawica she was gorgeous.
Monique

M. Lankhaar
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Moira
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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  11:43:53 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moira to your friends list Send Moira a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Someone told me that the flaxen/chestnut comes from Rose of Sharon



***Zak******Zhaazeer*****Gremlin
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Lila
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Netherlands
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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  12:11:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Moira,
Did a quick scan and I think you might be right. Would love to see pictures of Nuhra's children to see what colour chestnut they were.
Monique

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Lila
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Posted - 20 Nov 2008 :  10:53:56 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No one else with a Nuhra descendant??
Monique

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guisburn
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Posted - 20 Nov 2008 :  8:15:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit guisburn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add guisburn to your friends list Send guisburn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Monique
We purchased mares directly from Nuhras home Barton Lodge from George White just after the death of Lady May - We stay in touch with George and just as Lady May have NOT introduced another outside line on the female side. Shimsha (Shimnar/Sayada) and Karera (Mehzeer/Zareen) both bred by Nuhras owner. We have back bred to the Barton Lodge bred stallion - Zalim (Bayazar/Zareen) and one of the results was Lornas lovely mare Guisburn Szareen. She also has a full sister competing at 80km endurance level and who has raced.
Our lovely stallion Hussain (Crusader/Heloua) also carries a line to Nuhra through Maleik El Kheil, and is producing truly beautiful stock with these ladies.
We have retained a young colt by Zalim - who is now 4 years old Guisburn Zhalim (Zalim/Guisburn Shazehra) with 8 crosses to Nuhra, but his dam is by Crusader.

We are hoping for foals in 2009 from Shimsha, Karera, Guisburn Shazehra, possibly Guisburn Shameerah (Mehzeer/Shimsha) - all will be tail female Nuhra.

All the best
Melanie
Guisburn Arabians
www.guisburn-arabians.co.uk

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guisburn
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Posted - 22 Nov 2008 :  8:16:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit guisburn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add guisburn to your friends list Send guisburn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
These are a few pics of our Nuhra preservation mares and youngstock - hope you like them !
Kareras family group



some of Shimshas family







Sorry that we have left some out.......
Can't wait for 2009 foals !
Melanie
Guisburn Arabians

www.guisburnarabians.co.uk
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Lila
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Posted - 22 Nov 2008 :  8:51:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Melanie,
Thanks for the pictures and thedescription of your horses, would love to come and visit one day. Are you planning on breeding another 100%old english/Nuhra foal?? Your mares are stunning, is it Shimsha with the blue halter?? She is the immage of Lila, will put some more piccies of Lila on too.
Monique

M. Lankhaar
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Athena
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England
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Posted - 23 Nov 2008 :  12:12:12 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Lila

I wonder about the flaxen/chestnut. Nuhra was a bay, but she was mainly bred to chestnuts although I saw one of the descendants was a chestnut out of Nuhra and the sire was bay as well.

Monique


Hi Monique, thought you might be interested to know that almost all the Nuhra descendants are combined in some way with the blood of the blonde chestnut Crabbet stallion Irex (Naseem x Rissla). Nuhra was indeed bay and many of her descendants were dark chestnuts, even if they inherited more white markings from their Crabbet connections - the gorgeous stallions Riaz and Mehzeer were both Nuhra descendants in dark chestnut.

The bright chestnut with blonde mane and tail is a Rissla trait - coming through from Irex via mares like Zehraa (although Zehraa herself was a classic Nuhra dark chestnut). Some of the Nuhra /Courthouse combinations even stayed bay but they were always rare - maybe some of you remember Persimmon?

Nuhra herself was not classically pretty but the line definitely breeds on a distinctive old fashioned and dry deserty look in all its colour combinations. Unfortunately the all Old English dark chestnuts that were so distinctly Nuhra when I first attended the shows are rare indeed now.
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Athena
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Posted - 23 Nov 2008 :  12:14:42 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Moira

I have two Nuhra descendants

Zak..
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=EISOR+ZIGZAK




What a fascinating horse - definite Zibak look but oh so very Mehzeer/Nuhra too. Really lovely breeding. Now if he were a mare, I might have to abduct him!
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tamila
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England
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Posted - 23 Nov 2008 :  08:46:57 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tamila to your friends list Send tamila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aletha, Thank you for the info as to where the colour comes from.

I remember visiting Barton Lodge many years ago numerous times and seeing Darjeel. He was magnificent. George White was such a fount of knowledge. I learnt so much from him which has stood me in good stead.

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sub
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Posted - 23 Nov 2008 :  7:00:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sub to your friends list Send sub a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My old mare is a Nuhra descentant.

By Autumn Firefly out of Harissa - born 1988
Very dark liver chestnut - only offspring of the above to be, all the others were bay!
High whites with the sabino gene - lots of lovely spots all over her.
Her full siblings were Autumn Legacy and a stallion I don't think was ever registered as he was called B'stard!

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guisburn
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Posted - 23 Nov 2008 :  7:25:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit guisburn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add guisburn to your friends list Send guisburn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello Monique
We were unfortunate enough for Karera to absorb her next foal to Zalim after we sold Guisburn Kahara. She went in foal to Hussain (Crusader/Heloua) but absorb after 39 days. On a happier note she has been checked over by Jonathan Pycock of Equine reproduction services, who pronounced her in perfect health and she has been scanned in foal this year once again to Hussain, and has been put on regumate - if she holds it is our intention to cover her with an English stallion to retain her line so will be shopping if everything goes well!

The photos - The head shot with the blue halter is
Shimsha (Shimnar - Samhan/Atrisha) x (Sayada - El Shaklan/Razehra) shortly after she arrived as a 2 year old from Barton Lodge, the second head shot was taken earlier this year as a 16 year old mare - the two endurance horses are her daughters by Zalim at the back and by Mehzeer at the front. The grey head shot is her 2007 filly Guisburn Silver Lining by Hussain. The dark foal is Guisburn Reyhana her 2008 granddaughter out of Guisburn Shazehra (Crusader/Shimsha)by Hussain. Guisburn Easter Shadow 2008 colt foal out of Shimsha by Hussain.

George White explained that Irex was used a number of times on the Nuhra line to improve her head, which was a little on the plain side and can pop up with multiple crosses back into the line. One of his favourite horses was the Crabbet stallion 'Grand Royal' and he has a framed picture of him on his wall - he spoke well of the Courthouse stallion Bahram. I understand from an email we had recently that the old Courthouse stallion Ramoth is still alive and well in France.

We would be pleased to see you at Guisburn!

Melanie & Nick
Guisburn Arabians

Quick snap taken a few weeks ago of Guisburn Zhalim - 2004 stallion by Zalim (Bayazar/Zareen) - out of Shimshas Crusader daughter - Guisburn Shazehra

www.guisburnarabians.co.uk
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