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Egbert
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 Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 10:08:22 AM
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Hi Steph! She is a lovely youngster and am going to look forward to watching her grow and learning your plans for her.
Hi Angie,
Looks like you have a very interesting stallion there! The Nazeer line sire was bred by Frances, Duchess of Rutland out of her arguably finest mare, Queen of Diamonds, a Hamdani Simri tracing to the great Ali Pasha Sherif mare and dearly loved by Lady Anne, Sobha. I think I actually saw Sharik El Kheil on a visit to Belvoir in '84. I remember a stunning youngster.
Fiheed's dam, Faida is by the Mesaoud sire line stallion, Golden Diamond and out of the Fari II Daughter Farama...She picks up the Hamdani Simri blood as Fari II, a glorious bay stallion whose dam was the Princess Muna winner, Farette. All in all you have a personable stallion, very showy, should be a great mover perhaps a tad long in the back but with overall outstanding conformation, should be a phenomenal riding horse, very solidly built and athletic. A good citizen and even at 14 a bit mischievious! His dam line treaces to Rose of Sharon. ...Is he perhaps somewhat flaxen in coloring? Any chance of seeing a picture?
Bex,
Yup, you have the combination doubled through Monitor via Moment and Topol on the sire line via Priboj to Rissalma. Then again you have the famous Mesaoud, Mahruss and Rodania via Rissalix courtesy of Count Roland. On the dam's side you are again blessed with Priboj twice via Penitent whose sire and dam carried Priboj. Palas carries a line to Priboj as well.
All in all, you have a hefty amount of the blood for the most part via Priboj and all through different descendants. He is lovely Bex! Thank you for sharing! |
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katefox1812
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 10:20:49 AM
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Wow - just had to come on and say I really like this mare! Nothing helpful or informative to contribute - I just think she's pretty and love her pedigree! |
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Esstaana
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 12:58:53 PM
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Kate,
I'm so glad you said that, was thinking of putting her to your stallion, if you will let me of course!!
It will be in 3 years time though.... but Im such a huge fan of Tobago, as mentioned in your post about him - looking forward to his piccies!!!  
Steph.
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fidodido
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England
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 2:03:19 PM
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Hi Egbert,
Thank you so much for the info on my boy Fiheed, you have certainly described his personallity very well. He is my favourite riding horse, quite powerful (when not being lazy) and loves his work as it gets him lots of attention. The only thing i would say is that i think he is a little short in the back. He was quite flaxen as a youngster but has gone darker with age, however his tail still has a large section of white hairs running through it and he was certainly not short in aquiring the white markings of his father and the queen of diamonds.
I will try and dig out some photo's of him and get my techno nerd OH to post them for me.
Angie.
P.S If it isn't to much trouble i have also added my mares pedigree to all breeds and would be gratfull for any info you could give me on her.
She is Cazada (Malik ibn Rostam X Salladina Ramara)
If anyone can put the link up for Egbert again it would be much appreciated
Thanks again
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Bex
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 9:13:59 PM
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Thank you once again Gari
Your a star!
Thanks for the comment trinity
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 09:51:22 AM
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Oh boy, Angie! A White Lightning sire line filly/mare! Bet she is cute as a bugs ear! Fascinating pedigree too. She must be very sweet- (triple) Bright Shadow is on both sides of the pedigree-with huge eyes, quite white, lovely motion...Nice conformation and a showy quality ... in spite of herself. Would love to see pictures. She is a Seglawi via an Egyptian line that was brought in to the Hamdan stables through the Tahawi tribe. This is a line that is long lived and that should be a relief as she must be very endearing.
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katefox1812
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katefox1812
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 11:43:20 AM
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Oh - may I ask another question as well?
There's a v nice breeder who is considering breeding a splendid elite-graded Irish Draught mare to Tobago - any thoughts on this cross? I haven't seen many Arab x ID horses, but the few I've seen photos of have been good-looking horses. |
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fidodido
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 2:08:45 PM
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Thanks Egbert,
Everything you say about Cazada is true. One day hopefully i will get to breed from her (but only when i can keep another as i wouldn't be able to part with it) as i have seen several stallions i would love to consider putting her too. Too name a few i like, they are the camargue related stallions LVA Maximus and Narismma or i have also thought about straight eygptian, preferably Ansata or Imperail breeding to bring out a bit more dryness and type (not that she needs it IMO) or you never now my own boy.
Thanks again for your insight into my boy and mares pedigree and i have techno nerd OH on the case of posting piccies of them both (unfortunately i don't have any really good ones), hopefully later today.
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Esstaana
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England
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 4:02:26 PM
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Oh yes, definatly... would love to know of your thoughts Egbert on my filly x Tobago!!
Thanx ever so much! |
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jackiedo
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England
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 6:37:26 PM
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I know an IDX Arab mare, she is retired now, she is 32 years old. Her sire was Rapier 111
sired by Gerwazy ex Blue Raffia (by Blue Domino). She was one of 4 siblings bred by Mr Armitage of Cold Heindly, West Yorkshire, 3 Fillies and one Colt, Both parents Bay, 3 Bay foals, one Chestnut. All of them were sensible horses, all made about 15hh, good doers and lived long healthy lives, as did the old man himself,(Rapier, not Mr Armitage!!) who gave me the ride of my life when we were both 17, He carried the Sabino gene, but none of the ID cross foals had much white. Rapier was monitored by the old Ministry of Agriculture who had a pedometer on his foreleg and clocked him doing 60 miles one day in his paddock. This old horse was the ultimate Arabian. He could hunt a full day, did Endurance, Jumped, showed under saddle and yet was gentle enough to let a little boy with Autisim ride him on the lunge. Sorry to interrupt, but I loved this old horse. He died in his 40's. |
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fidodido
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England
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 10:45:18 PM
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Hi Egbert,
Here are some photo's of my boy Fiheed (Sharik el kheil x Faida) and my mare Cazada (Malik ibn Rostam x Salladina Ramara). Unfortunatly all my photo's of Fiheed are in his winter woolies which do not do his head any favours, as in summer he as virtually no hair on either side of his blaze and around his eyes, he was recovering from a virus when these where taken so is very fat from not being ridden. However i hope that you think he resembles his interesting pedigree
Thanks
Angie.
P.S I believe that the Duchess only bred crabbets and wonder if you could tell me why she chose to stray from crabbet and use the outcross Maleik el kheil on the Queen of Diamonds and was this the only time she ever did this. |
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 1:14:42 PM
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Originally posted by katefox1812Originally posted by EsstaanaKate, I'm so glad you said that, was thinking of putting her to your stallion, if you will let me of course!! It will be in 3 years time though.... but Im such a huge fan of Tobago, as mentioned in your post about him - looking forward to his piccies!!! Steph. x That's so funny - we must have been posting about each other's horses at the same time! I posted here, then went to look at the Tobago thread and found your post - great minds...! Well, I know it's a long way off, but maybe we should ask Egbert for her thoughts on a possible match between Esstaana and Tobago? What do you think Gari - would these pedigrees complement each other?
Think it would be a 'slam dunk'....That is a basket-ball term to say it would work brilliantly...Keheilan Dajania on Seglawi should be fabulous with refinement, scope, great beauty, superb motion....and a wonderful character.
Kate, in re the Irish Draught...Again, Tobago has shown himself to be prepotent to such a degree that there is little doubt in my mind it would work beautifully. I would expect a very fancy if not perfect palfrey. |
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Esstaana
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England
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 1:18:57 PM
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Ooo Kate, think thats sorted who Ill be breeding Ana to later on!! - Fingers crossed it will be a colt - If he's up at stud that is and with your permission of course!
Thank you so much for all your comments Egbert, I appreciate it so very much!!
Steph.
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CINDERS
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England
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 1:20:13 PM
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Circumstances mean that I have a Kubinec breeding and I would like your opinion on whether I could (or should) consider using this over my Balaton daughter. She is out of Malinka
Obviously this is rather close but I wonder whether anyone has done this half brother half sister breeding and whether they encountered a problem
Mirabella is a rather aloof, very self contained mare who does far better when in foal or with a foal at foot
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emma
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 2:53:02 PM
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Hi Yvonne
How is everyone and everything?
Im hugely jealous of your Kubinec breeding 
Will be interested to hear the reply.
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Egbert
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Cinnypony
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 9:51:50 PM
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Egbert
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fidodido
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 9:59:22 PM
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Hi Egbert,
Thanks for the very nice comments re Fiheed. Unfortunatly he is not at stud as i keep him on a livery yard and do not have the facilites to do so, i would have to send him away to stand him somewhere and has he has been cared for by me for the last 14 years of his life and is very much mummy's boy it would take very special people for me to let him go. He has just been a muched loved riding horse (i know alot of paople would say geld him but he is very happy and no problem) and pampered friend and hopefully one day i will get to stand him.
Thanks once again for all your info and knowledge
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 27 Nov 2008 : 06:59:05 AM
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Hi Angie,
You have a wonderful boy and you are blessed to have each other. Glad to have helped!
Gari |
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susan p
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Lynn Tait
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Posted - 30 Nov 2008 : 10:27:01 PM
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| first apologies as i am useless on the pc so cant do links etc,i would like to know which of my polish mares you think would suit my young colt Aja Armani(Wh Justicex GC Chanel),my girls are Escoveda (Pamir x Esmeralda) and Evitaa (Monogramm x Eloranta)one of these will be his first wife but i am not sure which one. |
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CINDERS
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England
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Posted - 01 Dec 2008 : 09:17:50 AM
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Thanks for the informatio. Mirabella is a fabulous mother and if it were not forthe current economic cimate would be kept in foal as she is wonderful with foals and when in foal. As far as we can tell her foals are all quite bold. She is a wonderful mare to do things with you just get the feeling that she wants attention but when you offer it she shies away.
I'll certainly have to consider whether this is too close or not. I do have a Artist daughter out of an Aswan daughter (Derjava) but that again would triple the Aswan. Might just have to try one last time with Derjava although it would probably mean taking her to Holland. Derjava is by Aswan out of Polinezia
Would be interested in your thoughts
All the best
Yvonve
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Egbert
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Posted - 01 Dec 2008 : 10:44:35 AM
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Hi Yvonne, Susan and Lynn,
For some reason I can't get on all breeds at the moment. Don't know if the issue is from my end or yours...Will try again later. Just wanted you to know I look forward to working on these pedigrees.
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