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Egbert
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 Posted - 01 Sep 2008 : 10:37:33 AM
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Originally posted by BeckyBoodleNot sure where this discussion has got to as haven't had time to get to the end, but my girl goes back to Basilisk several times I think. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/eas+boadiceaDefinitely back through Royal Bay and I came across flicking through on something else too. Is this important? Egbert, sorry but any info v welcome, I am addicted to this thread and sneaking peaks in between meetings and now kiddie bedtimes and breakfast!! She is black, beautiful, sweet tempered and very brave. I can't wait to ride her but want to let her take her time. I would also be keen to breed from her at some point in the future, but as someone else has said earlier, once they get ridden it may be the case that it is hard to loose her from riding. B 
Hi B!
Well she is a Kuhailan Rodania but loaded with Seglawi (via Bint Helwa, Zulima 3xs, Basilisk, *Wadduda 2xs, *Urfah, on the dam's side so am not surprised at your description and her loyalty should be somewhat intense to you and immediate family she knows well. And if the photo is a measure, she is very beautiful but am not seeing Basilisk as much. Usually the sign of Basilisk in the pedigree and being an influence is to have a mane and tail that is the consistency of the finest gossamer silk....which is more frequently observed when Basilisk is the tail female.
As for breeding: The kindest thing you can do is let her have a baby and to keep riding her daily until about 6 weeks before foaling, resuming a month after foaling. That way she is kept in good tone and condition. I like her and would hope you would be looking at somone one like Arastin for her! |
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Egbert
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Posted - 01 Sep 2008 : 10:59:47 AM
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Hi Susi,
What a fascinating pedigree! Sire line to Skowronek via *Nabor/Negatiw/Naseem and the dam line is to the Polish mare, Scherifa OA, bred in Syria and her strain is Gehelt El Scharif OA! Tends to breed as a strong Kuhailan. That said-WOW! Though her dam was bred by Michael Harris-one of the UK's most astute breeders, her bloodlines are drawn from the collection of Dr.s Theobold, if I recall correctly. Years and years ago Iona Bowring-McVean (Silver Sheen's owner and breeders of dozens of brilliant horses) took me to see the Theobolds and I was absolutely bowled over by their horses. All simply gorgeous. Those folks were what I would call the real deal-MASTER BREEDERS. Everything was textbook quality beauty and it certainly looks like Cinnabar Moth fits that paradigm. You are going to have a ball with her. Not only is beauty a standout in the pedigree but so is athletic riding horses. She may be 14 hands but you will have more fun with her than you would with a lot of 16 hand critters. Keep us posted! |
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CINDERS
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Posted - 01 Sep 2008 : 2:19:03 PM
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I am interested to know what you would look for in a potential sire for KMA Moniette. She is by El Halimaar out of JA AmazingGgrace.
Alos we have a foal due for a friend by Vervaldee out of Ibiza (Borneo x Encendedora) any thoughts
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CINDERS
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Posted - 01 Sep 2008 : 2:22:10 PM
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Me again
Ths year our Aswan daughter out of Plinezia gave us a chestnut filly. Any thoughts on what she will turn out like.
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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 01 Sep 2008 : 9:00:05 PM
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Egbert - thanks so much. Very much appreciated.
Your comment about loyalty is so true. I have two girls aged 4 and 1.5 and sometimes I feel she is as much if not more the 4 year old's horse as mine. Despite being a baby herself, she is so careful with them. If one has got too close - which I obviously try to avoid - she stands stock still and won't move until she is sure she won't tread on them.
B
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Egbert
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 11:46:11 AM
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Hi Cinders...The horses you have asked about don't seem to be updated on All Breeds...Also you asked about your Aswan daughter's filly but didn't note the sire...Help! Really appreciate it if you would have the horses placed on All Breed Data Base. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/
Thanks!
Hi B,
It is always a thrill to learn that horses live up to their pedigrees. Your girl is outstanding!
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nikki
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LYNDILOU
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Egbert
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 12:22:42 PM
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Hi Nikki,
Wow! If I am reading the pedigree right, she is Straight Egyptian, sired by Shaikh al Kuran whose dam line goes to Bint Moniet El Nefous-arguably Moniet El Nefous's most beautiful daughter-trully a stunning mare and he is out of an Egyptian Prince daughter! What a stunning pedigree Shaikh al Kuran has. Then you have her dam out of an Orashan daughter...another stunner oooh and she id douoble Egyptian Prince so the mare line strength is huge! Well, she should be a show mare supreme as well as a phenomenal broodmare. She is a Kuhailan Rodania so she must be showy as well. PICTURES????
Susi,
Please check in from time to time and tell us how you are doing and how you are enjoying her.
Lynda,
We are always in such agreement!
Best,
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LadyB
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 2:15:33 PM
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Just a quick question - does anyone know what Tail Female Line Argos has? (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/argos4) I have traced it back to Mlecha but have never heard of that one?!? I am really new to this so sorry if I am being stupid.. I am just trying to look into my mares pedigree a bit more so was tracing the tail female lines of her ancestors up to the 3rd generation...
If that is the line does anyone have somemore information on it? And if not could you tell me some information on what it is.
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nikki
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 2:22:21 PM
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Hiya Gari,
Yes she is SE. I know she is European Qualified, and she has been shown in the past, though i am not sure where or her placings.
She is also broken to ride, although she is green, but schooling is starting to come on nicely now inbetween the rain as i have to wait for my field to dry off, and i can't take her out the road yet. She's very workman like, really settles down and gets on with it.
I have had trouble settling her in here, not between me and her, but her status, and stopping her from fretting, and getting her the right friend. She best buddies with Squiffy(zahra bint krayaan) who is so laid back she is horizontal. They come in during the day and out at night. She's very vocal, pulls terrible face's(like she's gonna eat ya!) but she's big softie and loves fuss. She likes to be treated like Queen!lol Though she is rather sensible too, not at all silly-she's certainly been challenge.
She has bred 3 foals to so far though none are se's, one member on here Verena has her daughter. I am looking to breed her to an se stallion, any suggestions?
She has really hard as nails feet, nice legs, good bone, awesome front on her, beautiful head, eye, ears, she has what some may say a mares back, could do with a bigger butt, overall she's a good solid mare.
Me and my boyfriend Owain were grooming each side of her on Sunday-she was a happy lady!lol
Cheers Nikki
p.s yes Linda, i am her slave!!! |
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nikki
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 2:27:32 PM
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http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ibn+silver
hiya gari, this is one stallion i would like to use on her, but i need an se replacement first.
Theres a few stallions i like the look of but not seen any of them in the flesh, what do you think of using a babson stallion on her? |
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CINDERS
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 2:47:56 PM
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Sorry our Aswan daughter has herself a daughter by Narim
Will try to get the pedigrees on today
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Kash
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CINDERS
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 2:55:53 PM
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JMA Moniette is now on AllBreeds as is Ibiza
Vervaldee is by Versace (as the foal if foe someone else I've not taken note of Vervaldees damline)
Sorry for confusion
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CINDERS
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 2:58:20 PM
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Sorry no photos but yes she does move
Very odd colour at the moment. Born chestnut but almost black under her foalcoat. Very independent and driving her mother to distraction.
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LadyB
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 3:41:16 PM
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Right, I am confused: I have looked on all breed and it states on there that Mlecha (question above) was a grey which Kuhailan Dajania (well actually Kohejlan-Dueni but I am assuming they are the same?) acquired in the desert... So, because other lines lead directly back to the actual mare Dajania like Bright Blue (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bright+blue5) does this still make Mlecha a Dajania female line?
Can anyone shed some light?
(i really should do some actual work now!)
Edited to say - is A HADBAH ENZAHIYAH a strain and if so does anyone know where i could find some info on it? I have googled but dont seem to see anything. |
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Egbert
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Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 11:42:45 AM
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Hi Louise,
Mlecha OA is an old Polish line acquired in the desert...having zero to do with Hadbah Enzahiya...Where on earth did you get that?
While the Mlecha horses do well, they do not behave as the true Kuhailan Dajanias whose number one trait was producing outstanding stallions-normally better than the daughters; and they tend to a slightly boxy muzzle, more laid back in disposition, soft eyed.
Treat the Mlechas as Koheilans and pay attention what you are breeding her to is the most important thing to think about when looking to the Mlechas. |
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Egbert
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Egbert
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Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 12:08:24 PM
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Lauren,
You are a champ! Many thanks!
Yvonne!
Wow, the Narim baby must be robust, elegant, very very lovely and will get better/more beautiful with each passing day!
The baby is a Sire line Skowronek, with three crosses to Naseem with in the first 5 generations, double Nabeg, double Aswan, triple Nomenkatura and the frosting is that the dam line is to Milordka...which makes her a Seglawi. Think you may have created quite a wonderful show horse!
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LYNDILOU
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Tail Female Line....?
is she yours Nikki?
Any photos Yvonne?
