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Lindsay
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Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 7:48:56 PM
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Wow two years.. I've just had a look back through some of the first posts and came across my own first postings. How much i have learned since then!
I did notice that Gari was listing some characteristics that horses should have given their pedigree - anything to say about my girl?
www.allbreedpedigree.com/silvershadow18
Just out of interest. x |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 8:29:55 PM
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Well heres one Alexia, the only OTHER Straight Spanish black stallion in the US ,son of Zaon ," Chayzaon" ( I think thats how its spelt)
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Athena
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England
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Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 10:01:33 PM
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Wow Lynda, how fascinating! What line within Spanish does this black gene come from, do you know? Zaon and his son just do look quite distinctly different - not totally non-Spanish (or what I think of as archytypely Spanish) but almost as though they could be Spanish/Russian crosses.
Is there an allbreedpedigree link? - love to know more about this breeding. What do you know of these lines Gari? Love your input here.
All goes to reinforce my feeling (in which I am not alone I know) that some traits and type tend to go along with certain colours. Alexia |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 10:18:51 PM
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The only black I can find back in his pedigree is not strictly black, but was classed Bay/ black, he occurs a few times and that is Ursus, and again Gari will enlighten us I am sure |
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trinity
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Scotland
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Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 10:51:33 PM
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Woh, he's gorgeous! Jaw droppingly stunning actually. |
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LYNDILOU
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Egbert
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Egbert
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Egbert
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 30 Jul 2008 : 1:31:57 PM
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Darn! Lynda I am coming up with nothing...And this is a lovely son of Zaon...Could you double check the spelling of the names? Thanks Because I am coming up with NOTHING! |
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LYNDILOU
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Egbert
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s.jade
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Jul 2008 : 5:47:20 PM
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Thanks for the description of Temptress Gari - spot on! She's not mine as yet but can't wait until she is, her lovely owner has let us have her on loan for now!! She definitely adopts a person for her own....I feel VERY lucky that that's me Thinking of future husbands as we speak....! |
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Lindsay
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Posted - 30 Jul 2008 : 8:18:54 PM
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Yes I put her name in wrong. Thanks for that. She has a wonderful head - I will try and get some decent photos to bring with me for you to see. She is very elegant but at the moment is a bit clumsy!
Thanks x
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s.jade
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Athena
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Egbert
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USA
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 10:48:42 AM
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Originally posted by AthenaOriginally posted by EgbertOriginally posted by AthenaOriginally posted by Egbert Again, thank you for posting the wonderful photo of Leo! Anymore?
Your wish is my command Gari! Here is "Leo" during a rare trotting moment - he doesn't really put any effort into these rather steady, collected moments that only occur shortly before or after galloping! His gallop is awesome but I have failed to catch the right arrangement of legs as he whizzes around the field recently - who told him that Dad was a racehorse! Alexia Oh Alexia, Many thanks! I really expect great things from Leo! What are your plans for him? OOOOOHHHHH...Are you taking him to the Crabbet show???? Thank you Gari. Unfortunately Narishka is not entirely sound since a field accident in 2002 (spent the UK Crabbet Convention on box rest!) so bringing them to a show is not really an option, quite apart from the fact that I've never really done showing and would be terrified of not doing them justice. Leo (Zobeyni Nareef if we are going to be official about it) is actually already sold, although he won't be leaving me for a while yet obviously. I am lucky enough to have my own land at home but I do not have enough or facilities to keep a colt/stallion. It is a bit nerve wracking given that he is Narishka's only foal to date, but he is going to a lovely home, quite local, as a future ridden horse and stallion. I am retaining two breedings to him too. His new owner fell in love with him and asked to buy him when he was just a couple of weeks old. She has not had an Arabian before but has loads of space at a beautiful farm in Shropshire and has had horses of other kinds all her life. She currently has a couple of hunter type mares plus shetlands that she drives - she has a shetland stallion who is destined to be company for Leo. She and her husband also keep rare breed sheep and a pair of Harris Hawks. Really lovely lady so I know he will have a lovely life there. Hopefully his new owner will get thoroughly hooked and go looking for a mare for him next! Alexia
Oh Alexia, Darn! He is such a perfect young man I had kind of hoped you were going to hold on to him. I bet the new owner will be hooked tho! How could she not be. He will be, with every passing year, ever more beautiful. And thank goodness you have retained breedings! That is critical!
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Egbert
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clio
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Egbert
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Posted - 05 Aug 2008 : 10:23:26 PM
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Hi Janette,
My very first thought of a future husband for her would be Camargue Too to reinforce the Carmargue as well as the rest of the greats...She is sire line Nazeer via Ansata Ibn Halima probably the most beautiful of the Nazeer sons. Her dam line of Estopa, arguably the most succesful dam line in the last 100 years goes back to the most beautful of the Veragua mares... The cognoscenti suspect that she traces back to the Crabbet import Namira (Skowronek x Nessima), a Kuhailan Dajania, because of the strength of the Estopa sons. The consistent quality of the Estopa colts is consistent with those mares of the Dajania dam line. Unless a mtDNA test is performed we'll never know for certain.
Whatever the case, you have what must be a beautiful mare. Certainly her pedigree is stunning and one in which you can look forward to breeding her to whatever stallion makes your heart sing. The outcome should be wonderful!
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Egbert
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Posted - 06 Aug 2008 : 08:50:28 AM
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Hi Paula,
You too have a filly whose sire line is to Nazeer via Ansata Ibn Halima via the more masculine but every bit as beautiful Maysoun , if photos are a measure. Your dam line is to Verana the progenitor of Estopa...thus she should be a superb broodmare as well as she has the dam line to accomplish a great deal and she is well bred. However, like *El Shaklan it will probably not be til the 5th year that you begin to see the truly great beauty that abounds in the pedigree. This should be an excellent all around filly, excellent riding horse and one day potentially a very competitive show mare. The side view of her shows tremendous potential. The lead shot leaves something to be desired but it looks like she has lovely tail carriage.
Think you are going to enjoy her immensely and bred to the right stallions-actually just about anything that makes your heart sing you should enjoy wonderful results.
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gossy
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Posted - 06 Aug 2008 : 09:29:44 AM
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Thanks Egbert, i can take pictures and make even the most extreme beautiful horse look like a donkey, so the 2nd pic is not a very good example, will try and get more later, my daughter took the first one and shows she has more photographic potential than me.
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clio
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Posted - 06 Aug 2008 : 12:30:53 PM
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Many thanks Gari for your reply
It has given me food for thought, if i dont manage to find her a 1st class new home finding her a husband would be my next option. That sounds bad, may i explain? Had hip replacement in January and was expecting to be ok for the summer to start breaking her and enjoying the summer shows but the good old NHS left it to long and my knee (same side ) needs doing now as well, so i never realy got back onto my feet (so to say). Now i have to look forward to a knee replacement in September and the months after getting back to normal. She is my baby and i want to keep her for ever but realisticly i wont be able to get to the yard tho my non horsey partner did a sterling job after my hip was done, she deserves more than i will be able to give her for a while .... but if she was in foal !!! Oh im sorry im wickering on here im sorry Appologies Geri for wandering off the topic me go delve deeper into her pedigree now as you have wet my appetite.
Many thanks again jan
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