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Egbert
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  01:35:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by gossy

Hello Egbert, i have a filly which is traced back already on her dam line thatnks to your self and Peg, i have Ku-ribi's great grandaughter, but would love to know what you can find out this is link to her pedigree, she is by Benito out of GG Bahaama
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tes+epiphany

When you get time, many thanks Paula



Hi Paula!

Hmmm...You have Carmargue in this pedigree which I love and you have multiples of Shaker El Masri, through multipls of *El Shaklan, Ibn Estopa (ES's full brother), Bint Shaker...You've also multiples of Maleik El Kheil up fairly close in the pedigree....So IF a gray....would expect a more compact looking horse and not quite as lithesome as Kuzira; if a chestnut would expect more stretch and ground covering motion. Whatever, the case she should be ultra showy, have excellent motion, quite smooth and be blessed with a lovely head which will become steadily more lovely with the passage of time. She should really love people and be the terror of the pastures....into everything...mischivous! Ok pictures...PLEASE???


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Egbert
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  01:41:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Carla,

Ribs much better...but still know I have them...where I never paid them much attention before...."Peggy" is adorable! Will look forward to seeing more pictures.

Nikki, ditto more picts! She looks lovely!

Cate,

Would expect your Russian mare's baby to have a lot of pizzazz...hotter than the Celestial Silver baby...More of a modern show horse type. Will be interesting to see the results!


Edited by - Egbert on 30 Jun 2008 08:24:46 AM
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Cate
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  09:27:24 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cate to your friends list Send Cate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gari,

Firstly, hope your ribs are on the mend, and thank you so much for all the information you have given me on my horses....just brilliant!

Anyhow, your description of what I may expect from my Russian related girl is so accurate of her dam. The only difference is that although Gwinivine is very sweet and the one who will come up and place her head on my shoulder and go to sleep she is at the same time a really hot cookie to put it mildly. If she fires up over something then she is like a rocket!! She is speed on legs, movement to burn, and that look at me attitude with tail in the air and snorting and blowing, and not for the faint hearted! So Ahanu, or "Mr Cool" as I like to call him will hopefully "ground her baby" so to speak, but not holding my breath. As you say "will be interesting to see the results". I thought Celestial Silver was a "hot cookie", but Gwin takes it all to another level! I keep wanting to cut down by brood and have had Gwin for sale a few times, but cant let her go to anyone. My friend who comes up to help me has her BHS stages, but is more a TB or Welshie person and will not handle her! Likes her but says "not thank you I'm too old for that carry on!"

Again, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
Cate

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Egbert
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  4:41:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Cate,

At some point you might want to consider a stallion like Carmargue Too for Gwinivine if Ahanu doesn't take the edge off...I suggest that because the Ali Jamaal combined with other lines to Nazeer tend to create super hot. Ahanu's lines to Nazeer are excellent ones but have a hunch you really need an outcross to nice old reliable British blood. Carmargue Too is one of those super beautiful stallions but carrying lines to more influentially mellow horses (Bright Shadow doubled and Ferida quadrupled)....and that would temper the super hot...Just a point...this is the Menaghy strain that is yet further proof of how extraordinary the line is for it always, contrary to some beliefs, carries great beauty and superb temperaments!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=CAMARGUE+TOO&g=5&cellpadding=0&small_font=1&l=

Edited by - Egbert on 30 Jun 2008 4:49:10 PM
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Athena
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  4:48:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Gari, Just thought I'd post some updated PICs of my "bred in the strain" colt by Indian Idyll from Narishka for everyone who frequents this thread. A number of you all were kind enough to take an interest in my precious Crabbet mare a while back - these PICs are up on new arrivals too. Ihope it is not breaking any rules to double post them.

Anyway here is "Leo" (Zobeyni Nareef, pending) - taken at 1 month old:




Thanks for taking an interest in my new boy Gari - hope your own breeding season is going well. Alexia
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Egbert
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  4:51:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alexia,

Just headed out to try out the new camera and try to capture the beauty of my new little girl!

Leo is looking fabulous! Oh my you must be over the moon! He looks so strong too! More importantly have you got Mom back in foal? Thanks so much for the update!

PS

Alexia, who is the straight Crabbet Queen of Sheba line stallion? We had inquiries on him somewhere and the photos typify what I'd expect a really good Abbayan Sherrak stallion to look like...

Edited by - Egbert on 30 Jun 2008 4:53:41 PM
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Cate
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  12:00:00 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cate to your friends list Send Cate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gari,

Thank you for the advice, which I shall bear in mind. What a beautiful boy Camargue Too is. I was told Gwinivine's dam was a pretty hot cookie, but when I had my double Ali Jamaal stallion I decided against putting him to Gwin because I had this sneaking suspicion I would have a very explosive foal!! Your comments have just confirmed that because he was very testosterone(sp)charged.

Cate

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Egbert
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  01:18:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now that surprises me Cate...Even tho' there is Nazeer/Aswan down on Garmon's dam line, I'd have thought she would be fairly gentle! Those lines aren't known for being exceptionally gentle so much as level headed. On the other hand, don't know that much about Emese, the French tail female line.
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Egbert
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  07:37:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A good friend from Nevada, Meralee Watson drove over earlier today and took these photos of my new filly by *Equifor (*Gazal al Shaqab x *Eqviria {Pers x Equina}) out of Carabella (*Rushan x Cariala {*Carmargue x WN Sharazada})



And then a picture of the photographer, Meralee being seduced by Antham....(this is an example of how to capture new clients....)

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Athena
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  08:48:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Egbert


Alexia, who is the straight Crabbet Queen of Sheba line stallion? We had inquiries on him somewhere and the photos typify what I'd expect a really good Abbayan Sherrak stallion to look like...


Hi Gari, did you mean African Emir? www.allbreedpedigree.com/african+emir - ths horse is lovely old breeding although he is GSB rather than quite Straight Crabbet. Like Imad, he carries one line to Dwarka via Fari II. His Harwood bred dam was full sister to Consuella, granddam of Harwood's own Taqah (by Indian Flame II) - I believe that Taqah was the last Straight Crabbet sire in the UK of the Abeyan Sherrak strain.

There are actually no Straight Crabbets in the UK of this strain now. Both the Harwood Misery branch and Miss Greely's Bint Astreelia branch did not ultimately leave any Straight Crabbet female descendants but the Harwood bred Nemone (Fancy Shadow-Misery) went to Australia and this family is hanging on there.

Thought you might be interested in this pedigree www.allbreedpedigree.com/armia+spa - an Australian 2007 filly, Straight Crabbet of the Queen of Sheba tail female line. Her owner/breeder Jennifer Stewart of Shahwan Park Arabians sent me PICs too - I'll try and post one up later. Alexia
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Cate
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  08:54:25 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cate to your friends list Send Cate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gorgeous foal, and mare Gari. Also the wonderful Antham. Always remember a double page of him in AHS News and he looked just superb. What a sweet boy...that photo says it all.

Well, regarding Gwinivine, not sure what to make of her. Sweet as pie, can go to sleep while being groomed. Will follow us round the field wanting stroked and cuddles, but when something upsets her like being in the stable and only one of her mates with her and others in the field, or even when on her own, she can, again, be as sweet and calm, but on the other hand she can be racing round the stable totally oblivious of us and going into her stable when she is like that is dangerous as she will just mow you down. So, what makes her ok one day and up the pole the next....I wish I knew.

Happy days!

Cate

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gossy
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  09:03:50 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gossy to your friends list Send gossy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You have descibed my horse to a T!! yes she is grey, this is her


Edited by - gossy on 02 Jul 2008 12:06:18 PM
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Tahir
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  09:04:35 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tahir to your friends list Send Tahir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What a gorgeous mare and foal Gari, very beautiful. Antham is such a darling, he reminds me of my stallion, Taj likes to give kisses too.

Carla, xx.
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Athena
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  2:30:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Gari - now I can see them! For some reason my PC did not display the mare and foal piccy earlier this morning. Lovely! Baby looks airborn! You must be delighted. And Antham is obviously a sweetie - so important. I certainly don't want to be sharing my life with beautiful maniacs. Alexia
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Athena
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  2:39:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me again, just thought I'd post up this piccy of Armia SPA, bay weanling filly by Arfaja Sarif (Sarafire-Arfaja Nuala) from Arfaja Ajrami (Arfaja Robard-Meadow View Nicolette), owned and bred by Jennifer Stewart of Shahwan Park Arabians, Australia. She is of the Abeyan Sherrak strain and a distant cousin of African Emir - he's a nice horse, hope he gets used some more.

Armia SPA, bay filly 2007, Straight Crabbet


Hope you find this of interest. Alexia
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Athena
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  2:43:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Egbert

Alexia,
More importantly have you got Mom back in foal? Thanks so much for the update!



Hi Gari, sorry didn't answer this question. Unfortunately I have no resident stallion and I wimped out of sending my precious mare away with Leo - so she is not back in foal. She will be rebred, all being well in 2009. I have a stallion in mind but he has recently changed hands so I'll just have to see if it can be made to work. Funnily enough he is another "N" line Kehailan Dajani .... I seem to like them! Alexia
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katefox1812
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  6:14:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add katefox1812 to your friends list Send katefox1812 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Athena

Originally posted by Egbert

Alexia,
More importantly have you got Mom back in foal? Thanks so much for the update!



I have a stallion in mind but he has recently changed hands so I'll just have to see if it can be made to work. Funnily enough he is another "N" line Kehailan Dajani .... I seem to like them! Alexia


I've been told that the Dajania line is known for producing excellent stallions - so that could be why you are drawn to them?!

Lovely pics of Leo!


Edited by - katefox1812 on 01 Jul 2008 6:17:31 PM
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katefox1812
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  6:15:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add katefox1812 to your friends list Send katefox1812 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gari your mare and filly are beautiful - and Antham as lovely as ever!

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Athena
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  7:09:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by katefox1812

Originally posted by Athena

Originally posted by Egbert

Alexia,
More importantly have you got Mom back in foal? Thanks so much for the update!



I have a stallion in mind but he has recently changed hands so I'll just have to see if it can be made to work. Funnily enough he is another "N" line Kehailan Dajani .... I seem to like them! Alexia


I've been told that the Dajania line is known for producing excellent stallions - so that could be why you are drawn to them?!

Lovely pics of Leo!


Well, it certainly seems to be true through Crabbet's history - Indian Gold, Indian Magic, Indian King, Royal Diamond, Grand Royal, Sindh in Australia, Blue Domino and Silver Blue - quite a tally without even having to think too hard! I'll cross my fingers that Leo can live up to the family tradition!!

Thanks for the kind comments on his PICs. Alexia
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willowview
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  05:31:57 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add willowview to your friends list Send willowview a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Congrats on the great looking filly and the speaking engagement Gari!!! sorry to hear about the ribs....they can be painfull. That Antham is such a card!!

US Nationals is in Tulsa Oklahoma from now on.

Edited by - willowview on 02 Jul 2008 05:33:26 AM
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gossy
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  1:23:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gossy to your friends list Send gossy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Egbert,

hope you like Pics, i would be interested in what you think of my other filly, this is her breeding?http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/starlight+khaleefah

When you get time, many thanks.Paula

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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  3:37:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Gari just seen your adorable filly congratulations , what a stunner, and look at those low set eyes just the look I go for


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Lindsay
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  7:20:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lindsay to your friends list Send Lindsay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Gari

What a gorgeous baby - have e-mailed you. x



Paidir dóibhsean le fiántas ina gcroíthe acu, atá coinnithe i gcaighin
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loulou
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  8:57:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loulou to your friends list Send loulou a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Gari, would be extremely grateful if you have the time to tell me a little more about my precious mare Kizzarlia's pedigree. She is by Hakka out of Bint Katarina (Kestral/Princess Scenario. Unfortunately she recently lost her foal but I am hoping to re-breed her to Vervaldee by Versace and would be extremely interested in your opinions. She is very dear to me and absolutely adored but I know little about her pedigree. I also have another mare Shanikwa (Om El Shaheen/Kubinaia) who I would also love to hear your opinions on her pedigree. I also hope to breed her next year to Vervaldee.

Many thanks, Traceyx
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Egbert
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Posted - 11 Jul 2008 :  10:47:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Athena

[right]Originally posted by Egbert


Alexia, who is the straight Crabbet Queen of Sheba line stallion? We had inquiries on him somewhere and the photos typify what I'd expect a really good Abbayan Sherrak stallion to look like...


Hi Gari, did you mean African Emir? www.allbreedpedigree.com/african+emir - ths horse is lovely old breeding although he is GSB rather than quite Straight Crabbet. Like Imad, he carries one line to Dwarka via Fari II. His Harwood bred dam was full sister to Consuella, granddam of Harwood's own Taqah (by Indian Flame II) - I believe that Taqah was the last Straight Crabbet sire in the UK of the Abeyan Sherrak strain.

There are actually no Straight Crabbets in the UK of this strain now. Both the Harwood Misery branch and Miss Greely's Bint Astreelia branch did not ultimately leave any Straight Crabbet female descendants but the Harwood bred Nemone (Fancy Shadow-Misery) went to Australia and this family is hanging on there.

Thought you might be interested in this pedigree www.allbreedpedigree.com/armia+spa - an Australian 2007 filly, Straight Crabbet of the Queen of Sheba tail female line. Her owner/breeder Jennifer Stewart of Shahwan Park Arabians sent me PICs too - I'll try and post one up later. Alexia
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Alexia! You are great! Knew you would know instantly whom I meant! Thank you. So sad to have lost so many of those great dam lines/strains, especially the Queen's. Thank goodness there are those in Australia. Means it could come back. Would love to see the pictures of Armia!
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