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Cate
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 Posted - 21 Jun 2008 : 10:25:35 PM
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Hi Gari,
Will post some photos of Ahanu next week. Although straight Egyptian he has his Crabbet Heritage certificate which makes him 31.21% Crabbet. |
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Egbert
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 02:06:34 AM
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Carla,
'Peggy' looks to be a stunner...Not surprising given the pedigree, either...It is almost an outcross pedigree but picks up close-Alaa El Din by Nazeer and out of Kateefa, a daughter of the Crabbet mare, Bint Rissala. Thus Alaa El Din is doubled in Peggy's pedigree and appears on both sides so is major influence. There are multiples of Crabbet throughout the pedigree via Egypt, Spain (Veralina, TAj el Nil tail female, being from the Duke de Veragua's stud, was probably by 99.99% certainty, pure Crabbet and unless I am suffering alzheimers...had a fair amount of top of the line Rodania blood....So you have basically outcross blood but containing outstanding Crabbet...With the original Crabbet journey mare, Hagar, a Keheilan Ajuz, your filly is a Kuhailan and reinforced with top Crabbet, Spanish and Egyptian blood. If super smooth and super sweet, would suspect that Veralina was one of the Sobha line mares that went to Veragua. Whatever, it looks like you have a major WOW! She will be very important and a dam that can be bred to anything with a stunning result. Well done Carla!
Becky,
Will check out NEW ARRIVALS! Thank you!
Kate,
Well, you know there is one mare on this earth...well maybe a couple...that I really covet and one of them is EA Amellia by Raji x Ammellita Bint Lavado. She is double Carmargue via her sire who is heavily Seglawi thus gifted with an extra amount of elegance not just via Bint Helwa but via Liana El Shaklan who traces to the outstanding Yeguada Militar import from the desert, Zulima. Interestingly this is the most successful Spanish dam line at the US National halter championships! EA Amellia's tail female traces to Dajania via the Skowronek daughter Naxina thus an extra added element of beauty is reinforced on the tail female.
The Amellia pedigree combined with that of Tobago is pure magic. Why?...All those lines to Naziri...and exquisitely beautiful ones at that via Carmargue and Padron. The fact that they share the same tail female line to Dajania means that not only will the baby be exceptionally beautiful, intelligent and very sweet - for Bright Shadow is tripled in the pedigree, but if a colt, it will be even more stunning than a filly-because that is the promise of the Keheilan Dajania tail female! My guess? If Amellia's in foal to Tobago she is carrying another British National Champion for Bill to show!
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Egbert
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 07:50:07 AM
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Hi Gari, I would love you to take a moment and go and read ( does anyone remember?) in the tea and coffee section of this forum, please, you just might be able to shed some more light on the subject and maybe confirm that this is one and the same mare. I do so hope it is as we have found living progeny . with your vast knowledge of pedigree's you could be the one to do it! |
   
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Egbert
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blissy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 09:18:06 AM
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Hi Egbert,
Thanks for looking at WR Aquila's pedigree, sorry I don't have any pictures as I have never seen her and she has now gone on loan to a lady who does a lot of endurance. Can you please suggest a breeding for my mare Brede Bellissma, she is the image of Makor with the exception of being 14.3 and a little shorter in the neck. There is a picture of her in my gallery taken when she was 7 years old.
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katefox1812
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 2:41:51 PM
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| Originally posted by Egbert
Kate,
Well, you know there is one mare on this earth...well maybe a couple...that I really covet and one of them is EA Amellia by Raji x Ammellita Bint Lavado. She is double Carmargue via her sire who is heavily Seglawi thus gifted with an extra amount of elegance not just via Bint Helwa but via Liana El Shaklan who traces to the outstanding Yeguada Militar import from the desert, Zulima. Interestingly this is the most successful Spanish dam line at the US National halter championships! EA Amellia's tail female traces to Dajania via the Skowronek daughter Naxina thus an extra added element of beauty is reinforced on the tail female.
The Amellia pedigree combined with that of Tobago is pure magic. Why?...All those lines to Naziri...and exquisitely beautiful ones at that via Carmargue and Padron. The fact that they share the same tail female line to Dajania means that not only will the baby be exceptionally beautiful, intelligent and very sweet - for Bright Shadow is tripled in the pedigree, but if a colt, it will be even more stunning than a filly-because that is the promise of the Keheilan Dajania tail female! My guess? If Amellia's in foal to Tobago she is carrying another British National Champion for Bill to show!
Gosh! Thank you Gari! I knew for certain that you would approve of this match (I think this is one of the few times I have accepted a mare without consulting you LOL!). But I didn't expect quite such a glowingly confident prediction! Katie is one of the nicest people on the planet, so I hope you are right (as you usually are) and she gets a BNC from this match. Amellia has not been AI'd yet, we're just waiting for her to come in season...fingers crossed!
I totally agree with you about Amellia - and I suspect we are among many, many people who covet this mare! And she has all the beauty and style to match her illustrious pedigree - she was reserve supreme at the Northern C show and 2nd at the Nationals and Towerlands. A very, very special mare - this is such a big honour for Tobago!
Interesting what you say about the 'double Dajania' - I have read before about this line producing particularly good colts/stallions, and wondered whether both parents having tail-female Dajania would increase this effect. If all goes well, I suppose Katie might next year be one of the very few breeders actively hoping for a colt LOL! |
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K8E
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 5:04:33 PM
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I've only just caught up with this and don't really know what to say apart from thank you to Gari for her lovely comments and to Kate for allowing us to use her lovely boy !! If im honest I'm actually keeping my fingers crossed for a filly, as Lia has had 3 colts now so I think im owed a little chestnut lady
Gari, dad wont be getting his hands on her/him iwill be my baby to show LOL !!
thanks again for your lovely comments and analysis of the bloodline combination.
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Egbert
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 8:23:32 PM
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| Well, remember...if you want fillies...you need to mix applecider vinegar in the feed. The amount varies. If you are on city or county water-it is usually ph balanced. BUT if you are on well water you would want to know how alkaline/acidic it is. For about 20 pounds you should be able to find out the ph of your water and then adjust the apple cider vinegar accordingly. I feed about 3 tablespoons in my grain daily or across ones hay as I am on city water. I usually start the vinegar at a teaspoon and build to 3 tablespoons over a 3 month period before covering...but yes, you are overdue for filly! Also vinegar is reportedly very good for digestion. |
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s.jade
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 8:32:52 PM
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| Not sure if you remember our postings about my H Tobago X Judals Shakaya foal...but if you see the New Arrivals page he is all you predicted and more!! |
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katefox1812
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Egbert
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 9:18:36 PM
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Jade,
Thank you! Will go look!
Hi Kate,
Yes, works kind of in reverse for humans...But basically one is changing the internal body chemistry which is friendlier or hostile to the male/female gametes, is the way it was explained to me. Perhaps, more importantly it seems to help prevent colics, too.
Oh special announcement: Carabella, 3/4 sister to Antham but with a line to Carmargue, has had an exquisitely beautiful filly, (pale bay going gray, perfectly balanced with an extra scosh of neck, incredible head, huge eyes, short back, super long legs, by Res. Polish National Champion Equifor! .... out of this world....She was born late Monday night! YIPEEEE!!! |
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Silvern_Scepris
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 9:41:12 PM
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Egbert, Congratulations on your new filly . I think a few pics are in order  |
  
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Egbert
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 9:44:58 PM
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Hi Elizabeth,
They are a coming...I tripped over my laptop two days ago and cracked a rib so plans to do a photo shoot went down the tubes...Sometime in the next week, with fingers crossed, will be able to go out to the ranch to do a proper shoot.
Becky and Jade, HELP!!!
Can't find your threads under the new Arrivals....Title of your threads with pictures of your new babies, please?! |
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Tahir
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 9:45:45 PM
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Congratulations Gari, and I agree with Silvern Scepris - pics are definitely a must (she sounds gorgeous)!!!
Carla, xx. |
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Egbert
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 08:39:58 AM
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Becky and Jade,
Found your posts in New Arrivals! Whew! Both are lovely...Jade you are going to have a lot of fun in competition with your boy.
Becky yours looks so very Arabian...Am curious can he be registered as a Welsh pony, Or?
Maureen,
Who are your horse's sire and dam?(there is a confusing listing on all Breeds...) |
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Tahir
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 09:08:25 AM
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Ouch!!! Sorry to hear about your rib Gari - very painful!!! Just the sort of thing I would do though!!!!
Carla, xx. |
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Egbert
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 09:36:08 AM
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Carla,
Thank you! It does hurt! Keep wondering how the rodeo stars do it with jaws, legs, arms wired...ugh! |
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Tahir
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 10:00:38 AM
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It does make you wonder but I am sure that some people are 'made' to endure pain, and some even enjoy it !!! Definitely not for me though!!! So hope your rib heals very quickly, with as little pain as possible!!!
Carla, xx. |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 10:08:29 AM
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congratulations on t your filly Gari, sorry you have been in the wars again mend soon I shall be over to the states again in October, any chance of a get together? I do love our meet ups |
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Egbert
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 10:19:17 AM
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Carla,
I am a total baby when it comes to pain....But have been such a clutz the last few years...Think I've always been one actually, its just now there is no more bounce! Thank you for the kind thoughts.
You, too, Lynda! Ok, so you are coming in October? For the Nationals? MISCHIEF??????
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Egbert
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 11:06:19 AM
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| They've changed the venue and have heard it is going to be in Oklahoma but where in OK? Will let you know as soon as I can find out. |
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Tail Female Line....?
