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Egbert
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 Posted - 07 May 2008 : 01:53:28 AM
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Originally posted by Mrs DJHi, I've been dipping in and out of this thread for ages, and marvelling at the depth of information here - I could never in a million years learn even a small amount about all this  - it makes for fascinating reading!! Some time ago Bia worked out my mares Crabbet percentage for me, but, if you have the time (you must be snowed under - do you find time to eat & sleep??), I would love to know your opinion of her pedigree. Here's the link http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/silver+zeyrhaMany thanks
Hi Mrs. DJ!
Happy to help. You have a lovely and beautifully bred mare! She has a sire line to Mesaoud via the incomparable Bright Shadow so she must be very sweet and a wonderfully reliable ride. Would imagine her sire was gorgeous with Irex on his dam's sire's line. But throughout the pedigree, Risira appears three times (two on one side and 1 on the other side of the pedigree) and this mare appears so frequently on the dam lines of the British Bred National Champions that with her in the pedigree as well, suspect that Silver Zeyrha is a very lovely mare.
On the distaff side there are several Silver lines plus shared lines to Sobha on both sides of the pedigree so she has to be very smooth, with a rare elegance. The frosting on the whole package is that she traces in tail female to the legendary Bint Helwa, the Seglawi Jedran who graces the pedigrees of so many fabulous Arabians. Via Gayza, it is the great beauty of Bazleyd who was of the Seglawi Ibn Ed Derri strain that made Gayza so important. Rose Du Sable was double Bint Helwa so there is yet another indication of great beauty and courage. A thousand years ago this would have been the sign of a great war mare, phenomenal beauty and athlete both loving and loyal.
Looks to me Mrs. DJ, that you have a pretty wonderful mare! |
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NatH
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Posted - 07 May 2008 : 09:40:07 AM
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Hi Egbert
As I am using African Emir on my Premium loan mare Ramilla, I would love to hear what you think of that pairing?
Thanks in anticipation |
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triple velvet
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Kazhak
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Lindsay
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Kazhak
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Posted - 07 May 2008 : 5:53:05 PM
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| Hi I was Wondering if anyone knows anything about an old desert bred Mare by the name of Takritiyah |
     
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Mrs DJ
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Posted - 07 May 2008 : 9:51:54 PM
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Hi, Egbert - thank you for your assessment of Zeyrha.
I think she's pretty wonderful, but of course I'm biased.
You're quite right about the reliable ride - you could not ride her for weeks and she is still very sane and generally sensible, bless her. She can trot in fifth gear as fast as my friends horse can canter (has to be ridden to be believed!!) And she will stand like a rock in front of the scariest traffic if I ask her to, without a blink  .
I don't know about rare elegance though - she's not exactly finely built (has been likened to a Welsh Section C on a couple of occasions  ), but I don't show, and couldn't hope for a better riding horse.
However, you can judge for youself - I thought you might like to see a couple of pictures of her (in her winter woollies still).
Thanks again
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Kazhak
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Posted - 08 May 2008 : 01:36:49 AM
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Hey Miss Dj Here in Australia My Familly would Class her Bloodlines as having good Endurance lines, with such notages as Dargee who eventually goes back to Shahzada, the horse we Australians name one of the biggest events in the Endurance Circles The Shahzada is a 400 km 5 day Ride that runs every year,
with training she can probably go all day, and from what you've said has a stride that can be ridden on all day,
Nice Photo's too okay so she's not a super beautiful Egyptian arabian, certainly cannot mistake her for the fact she is Crabbet, with that Crabbet Crome and Sturdy Frame, but you've got a gem there, one with true courage and Grit |
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Louise17
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Posted - 08 May 2008 : 4:29:00 PM
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Hi Egbert
I would be really grateful if you could have a look at Sonny's pedigree for me - I know you must be extremely busy reading this thread but it would be great when you have the time
The link on all breeds is:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dearnebank+versace
Sorry - my link doesnt seem to be working on here but his name is Dearnebank Versace
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Egbert
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kimzi
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Posted - 10 May 2008 : 2:04:10 PM
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| Hi gari, i know i'm going to do it regardless this summer what is your opinion on marlevka(ru)X millenium Jamaal(us) 2009 baby, i love them both very much but what is your feeling on it |
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Egbert
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Posted - 10 May 2008 : 2:05:15 PM
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Unfortunately Kazhak, your pony doesn't have an Arabian tail female line. Looks to be a cute and very attractive fellow probably taking after his sire Kolahi Rissaam as he is doubled in the pedigree, i.e., the dam is also by his sire! Ralvon Pilgrim has to have been one of the most beautiful Arabians ever. Any chance of seeing pictures? |
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Egbert
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Posted - 10 May 2008 : 2:25:46 PM
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Originally posted by LindsayOriginally posted by EgbertHi Lindsay, Lets put it this way: With the Naziri sire line and Bint Helwa dam line, strain Seglawi Jedran, and ALL the horses going through the middle of it....if he were in the states, I'd be breeding my *Rushan and Antham daughters (don't have one yet) to him!!! As a matter of fact, I'd breed all my mares to him....Not all at once but I'd really like to try him with everything I own. He has a superb pedigree and must be very beautiful! Has he been shown? Where is he? Who owns him? This is one of those if in quiet retirement .... should not be. He needs to be seen, babies??? Ok Lindsay, are you breeding to him? Ah...sight unseen...LOVE HIM! Hi gari He has been relatively unknown until recently I believe due to his owners ill health. Is he up here in the North of Scotland. I think they are planning to get him out and about this year. His first foals are due this year although no purebreds. He is lovely. I can e-mail you pictures if you like? I plan to use him for my mare Silver Shadow http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/silver+shadow18 either this year or definatley next. What do you think of this match?
This will be a brilliant match. You will have an ultra beautiful, brave, powerful filly or colt with whom you will be able to do everything you want. Also Seglawi on Abbeian Sherraks are fairly rare.
Would love to see more pictures of Akhira and also his foals as they come along. What part of Scotland is he in?
Dirmid would also be a lovely cross but his lines are a bit more common. He is a Kuhailan Rodania. |
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Egbert
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Mrs DJ
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Posted - 10 May 2008 : 3:45:24 PM
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Hi, Egbert
I was feeling a bit down & irritated today (been doing some housework!)
Just seen this post again - you've managed to pin a huge grin on my face!! Bless you! 
Suprising how good it makes you feel when someone pays your horse a massive compliment.
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Lindsay
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Posted - 10 May 2008 : 6:38:27 PM
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| Thanks Gari. I have e-mailed you. |
   
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trinity
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Posted - 11 May 2008 : 4:47:42 PM
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| Hi, finally I get to where I should be. I see Lindsay has got here before me with regard to our stallion Akhira. I'm only just getting in to the Arab pedigrees etc. We get the impression from Lindsay and the AHS that our boy has some pretty special breeding and I just want to know more. WE are very keen to get another colt with his lines purely because of his temperament, and we came to this decision before we knew much about his bloodlines. I now feel there is something here worth preserving. What line should we ideally be looking for in a mare in order to maintain / improve on the lines he carries? We have a lovely polish mare who also appears to have good breeding but I think she would just give us good foals as oppose to preserving bloodlines. Lots of questions I know, but any advice greatly received. |
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NatH
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Posted - 12 May 2008 : 10:14:13 AM
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Hi Egbert,
Yep, she is by Gaymet.
Thanks for your comments |
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Louise17
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 08:50:32 AM
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Hi Egbert
Many many thanks for looking at Sonny's pedigree (Dearnebank Versace). He is no longer a stallion - he was gelded at around 6 years of age and he is now 16. I have had him for just over 5 years. I have heard from Chris Wesley who bred Sonny to say that he did really well in the show ring as a youngster and produced some lovely foals. Everything you say he was like when he was with Chris and I think I would be right to say that he is almost back to that stage now. Unfortunately for Sonny something went wrong in between leaving Chris and getting to me and he wasnt a very nice chap to know at all when I first got him. He is about 14.2 (never measured him) and I personally think he is an exceptionally handsome man. When he can be bothered!!! - he has beautiful paces and its a real pleasure to watch him prancing in the field! When I can ever figure out how to post pics I will post some on. Thank you again- much appreciated. |
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Egbert
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Egbert
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Posted - 17 May 2008 : 11:19:48 AM
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| Originally posted by trinity
Hi, finally I get to where I should be. I see Lindsay has got here before me with regard to our stallion Akhira. I'm only just getting in to the Arab pedigrees etc. We get the impression from Lindsay and the AHS that our boy has some pretty special breeding and I just want to know more. WE are very keen to get another colt with his lines purely because of his temperament, and we came to this decision before we knew much about his bloodlines. I now feel there is something here worth preserving. What line should we ideally be looking for in a mare in order to maintain / improve on the lines he carries? We have a lovely polish mare who also appears to have good breeding but I think she would just give us good foals as oppose to preserving bloodlines. Lots of questions I know, but any advice greatly received.
You truly have something potentially sensational with this line. Obviously it is very similarly bred to *Carmargue BUT different at the same time...You have the most beautiful of the Crabbet with the addition of Irex on both sides of the pedigree plus wonderful addional lines to Skowronek via not only Naziri, like Carmargue but Ruskov is doubled as well. More exciting is that the dams line has multiples to Bint Helwa for extra added beauty, courage, and loyalty! So you should be able to breed with *El Shaklan blood, Carmargue blood, Polish blood...Well, heck, anything you want as your boy should be able to improve any mare he is bred to. Am assuming he is free of any conformational issues that can't be seen in photos. What I could see he looked close to perfect.
I'd pay attention to mares carrying Bright Shadow blood as well. Think your boy is going to prove to be an outstanding breeding stallion and a lot of fun to own. |
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Egbert
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