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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 19 Feb 2008 :  7:38:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thats ok Jane, Mare's are known for their long ears, my Minuette had long ears too


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Posted - 19 Feb 2008 :  7:42:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Fee to your friends list Send Fee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Phew! Thank goodness for that Lyndilou...I thought Po had long ears because she has Donka in her pedigree!


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Posted - 19 Feb 2008 :  7:48:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Beautiful horses Jane; I also think Chiya has a lovely head and I don't think her ears are big! I guess it's cos you can see the base of them further down the neck. It's so good to see the horses whose pedigree's Gari has described. This is a very wonderful thread, though I will never really grasp the complexities of breeding.
It's hard to take pictures of outdoor horses at the end of winter, but thanks Sasha for doing a great job taking pictures of Zakhahn, and to you Gari for your very kind comments. I must point out I don't own him; he's with me just for backing and bringing on a bit, though I am very fond of him. He has an unbelievably kind, easy and cooperative nature and is very intelligent.

I have another pupil due to arrive soon and I wonder if you would be kind enough to give me your opinion on his breeding Gari? He is Kamal OS and I love the fact that he is related to my precious Lance through Lalique.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/kamal+os

Once again, thank you.

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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 19 Feb 2008 :  9:07:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOOK! minnies ears long crimbos ears short although its not written in stone, it is expected that a stallions ears be short and shapely, but a mare seems to have a longer ear in general, I look at the ears as soon as they are born and can usually tell if I have a colt or filly before I check the under carraige



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Sasha Melia
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  08:16:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Sasha Melia's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Sasha Melia to your friends list Send Sasha Melia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I do love little ears! Mooky has typey little ears too like Crimbo

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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  12:31:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Zenitha

Thankyou so much Gari !

It must me amazing to have so much knowledge of bloodlines, all stored in your head. You ought to auction yourself for the day - some lucky person could learn more in that day than for the rest of their lives!Bet their would be plenty of bidders too

I am very excited about the Rusleem match - and you are right about movement - Siraj is a very powerful yet elegant mover. As for Chiya, she is a beautiful mare with an exquisite head, and I am hoping for something very special with Charismma. I've spent so long tring to find a good match for her, and none of the stallions have felt quite right, I would be interested to know what type you do think would compliment her....I'm irresistably drawn towards El Shaklan, Sanadik El Shaklan for some reason.....?

Many, many thanks


I think you selected just right for Chiya with Charismma...Can't get much better. He will improve motion and lock in phenomenal pretty. Think you have the right idea for the next generation to cross to a Shaklan or even a combo of Carmargue with El Shaklan and Magnum Psyche and that is Aja Arabians' Justified. Still too young but in 2009 should be available for cover and still in the UK, hopefully.

In re long ears: They often seem normal when the mare is 10 or so...Some just take forever to grow into them!

Roseanne, will answer more extensively tomorrow! But oh wow! You have a world class competitor if that pedigree is a measure-coming to you soon!Oh boy!

Lynda! See you soon!!!
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  12:47:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL Minnie was about 18 in that picture, she never grew into hers. I hope all goes well Gari and I get on the flight tomorrow, arriving on the evening of the 24th, and a long sleep before seeing you has it started already? I know you wont be there till friday are you going straight to the show ground? I will find my way there on friday morning see you soon, I am really excited


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willowview
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  2:02:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add willowview to your friends list Send willowview a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What great looking mares....ears and all!!

Lyndilou, had a chance to check out your web site. WSA Charismma looks amazing and reinforces all my thoughts about his Carmague breeding. Don't doubt there is some great El Hilal influence coming through in his foals as well... great looking progeny for sure.

Do I take it you are States bound? Scottsdale maybe?
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  2:12:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, will you be there? I would love to meet you


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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  2:27:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add willowview to your friends list Send willowview a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, sad to say I am stuck in the frozen north of Canada. But hey, no mosquito's these days. I have been watching some of the live video feed so it's almost bearable!! Have a great time and let us know how it goes. I'm sure Gari is a great tour guide.
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  2:42:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh what a shame but yes we will have a great time I am sure,
Then I will be off down to Dallas to spend some time with my daughter and a chance to go and vist some cool studs in Aubrey
I am very much looking forward to meeting the straight Spanish stallion "Sasaki" who lives there, he was the sire of my old stallion Bambooki ( and he is the maternal grandsire of Magnum Psyche) Bambooki is now unfortunatley dead but Sasaki is still with us and I want to meet him before he passes on, he is 25 I think I am going to write an article on him for the A /lines, and I shall be writing an article for the AHS about Scottsdale


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willowview
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  4:06:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add willowview to your friends list Send willowview a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds great, look forward to reading your thoughts for sure. Speaking of Sasaki, I understand that GreenGate Farms have an exceptional young Saski son, GG Bandelero. Straight Spanish he is said to be quite remarkable...California wouldn't be that far out of the way....

Edited by - willowview on 20 Feb 2008 4:07:40 PM
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  5:40:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
HHHmm ,nice thought but I shall do enough flyingI think do they have a picture of him on their website,? and if so can you link me? it is nice of you to look on MY website Bob, but its very outdated, if you care to look at the stallions section on here you will get more information on Charismma, but we are hoping to get my new website up and running very soon , hey Paula?


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Posted - 21 Feb 2008 :  12:14:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Roseanne

Beautiful horses Jane; I also think Chiya has a lovely head and I don't think her ears are big! I guess it's cos you can see the base of them further down the neck. It's so good to see the horses whose pedigree's Gari has described. This is a very wonderful thread, though I will never really grasp the complexities of breeding.
It's hard to take pictures of outdoor horses at the end of winter, but thanks Sasha for doing a great job taking pictures of Zakhahn, and to you Gari for your very kind comments. I must point out I don't own him; he's with me just for backing and bringing on a bit, though I am very fond of him. He has an unbelievably kind, easy and cooperative nature and is very intelligent.

I have another pupil due to arrive soon and I wonder if you would be kind enough to give me your opinion on his breeding Gari? He is Kamal OS and I love the fact that he is related to my precious Lance through Lalique.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/kamal+os

Once again, thank you.


Roseanne,

This one is a bit of a challange because in my experience this blood mix will give different looks with different colors. I suspect gray and chestnut will be the two possible colors tho' there is a goodly amount of chestnut....but bay is a real possibility too as there are minimally 6 crosses to Arax! So your sire line is to Nazeer-for a bit of exotic, dam line to Rodania for absolute consistency-great breeding stock, phenomenal show quality in halter or performance, but there is an extra added fillip is that the line to Rodania goes via some of the most breathtakingly talented and gifted mares like his granddam Lalique, SX La Quinta, Faradina, on to the true progenitor of these remarkable fetes, *Rossana by Skowronek. Literally the mares emerging from this mare have been awesome. Incredible temperaments, phenomenal conformation, tremedous beauty, and a 'can do' attitude worthy of the world's greatest fighting forces. Nothing is too hard for this line to accomplish! They are worth their weight in gold. If you asked Kamal to leap from the White Cliffs of Dover to France...He would try! One of the great stories they tell about *Rossana is that they hooked her up to a cart shortly after her arrival from the UK. To their delight she was an old pro! They drove her all over the ranch and clearly someone had trained her to perfection. When they wrote Lady W singing her praises, Lady W wrote back that no one had ever put *Rossana in a cart, never mind driven her!!! This same attitude was evinced by a daughter taken back East to a convention in Missouri....(I think. Am working off of memory)...The delegates were meeting in the 20th story's dining room...and *Rossana's daughter was scheduled to be the evening's entertainment. She had never seen an elevator before, never mind a stage or an indoor restaurant! She performed like a champ and didn't even have an "accident" during the performance! She behaved as if she had done it all her life.

I'll tell you something, Roseanne...if there is anything wrong with Kamal it would have to be because there was brain damage. In the meantime he is a fabulous horse with a splendid pedigree. Will look forward to seeing those picts, too! Pedigrees just don't get any better!
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Posted - 21 Feb 2008 :  12:52:26 PM  Show Profile  Send s.jade an AOL message  Click to see s.jade's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add s.jade to your friends list Send s.jade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Gari

I'm learning loads here!
I wonder if you could recommend future husbands for these 2:
www.allbreedpedigree.com/aanyarah
www.allbreedpedigree.com.judals+tres+chic
and also if this colt wouldd suit either of them
www.allbreedpedigree.com/illuminata
I have stallions in mind but would love to know other ideas.
Thank you

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Roseanne
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Posted - 21 Feb 2008 :  2:00:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gari thank you once again for your amazing knowledge and the time taken to tell me about Kamal's pedigree. I'm looking forward very much to getting to know Kamal who comes down to me in a few weeks' time. He's very dark grey at the moment like his Mum was, though she's now a very pretty grey - you can see her on this link. http://www.oakwaysstud.com/page14.html G Lalita is the common thread with Lance and if Kamal is anything like as great a personality or as comfortable a ride as Lance I shall consider myself a very lucky person indeed. He is rising 3 and very tall so I will be taking it very slowly with him.
I won't have pictures for a couple of months I'm afraid but will take some (or get Sasha to come over again!).
This is a wonderful breed with some truly beautiful horses; we're all so lucky to have a personal share with us all the time.
Many thanks again Gari.

Roseanne
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willowview
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Posted - 21 Feb 2008 :  2:39:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add willowview to your friends list Send willowview a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by LYNDILOU

HHHmm ,nice thought but I shall do enough flyingI think do they have a picture of him on their website,? and if so can you link me? it is nice of you to look on MY website Bob, but its very outdated, if you care to look at the stallions section on here you will get more information on Charismma, but we are hoping to get my new website up and running very soon , hey Paula?


The GG web-site is www.greengate-farms.com (can't get it to come up as a link for some reason. Jay and Dorothy Stream are the originators of Green Gate and what a legacy Spanish bred horses that have created.

I know all about out-dated web sites ashamed to say.... Enjoy the show ladies!!
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Posted - 22 Feb 2008 :  12:41:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angel2002 to your friends list Send angel2002 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Bob,

Your Burgundy daughter is just STUNNING!!!! Would I be pleased if I bred one like her! She is absolutely gorgeous, a true beauty!!


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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 :  11:57:47 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spirit to your friends list Send spirit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gari, you told me to post my horses' breeding on here with the pedigrees so you could tell me what you think of the match and what my hopefully future foal will be like? Thanks.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/om+el+bahreyn
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/moraira+mh

What will my future baby be like? hummmmmmmmmmm. . . .


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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 :  1:13:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gari is still in scottsdale flying home today though I think, we had a hoot she is such good fun to be with, lucky me


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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 :  3:01:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks fo the link Bob, he is lovely and looks very much like Sasaki did at the same age I have Just spoken with Sasaki's owner Paula and I cant wait to go up and see him, I didnt realise he is 27! I also spoke with the manager of Midwest Ryan, who remember's Sasaki as a young colt when he was with them


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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 :  4:23:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add willowview to your friends list Send willowview a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by angel2002

Hi Bob,

Your Burgundy daughter is just STUNNING!!!! Would I be pleased if I bred one like her! She is absolutely gorgeous, a true beauty!!




Sad to say that the Burgundy daughter I posted the picture of isn't one of ours.....it was just the best picture I had of one of his offspring. We do have 2 daughters that have been just amazing producers and I will try to locate a picture of them.

The thing that I find very interesting about Burgundy Parke is that as good as BP was an an individual, he never directly re-produced that quality as a complete package...none of his off-spring were of the same quality, over all, as their sire. But the off-spring his daughters are reproducing are amazing and very complete as individuals, with alot of their qualities being very directly associatable to Burgundy Parke himself. Which is great, exactly what we want in a broodmare....One that out-produces herself with every foal, very much drawing on the best attributes of the stallion she is bred to and reproducing to the high standards in her own pedigree. Burgundy Parke is really going to be remembered by the people who know of him, as a broodmare sire.....none of his son's were left intact.

Pictures to follow (hopefully)
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willowview
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 :  4:28:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add willowview to your friends list Send willowview a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by LYNDILOU

Gari is still in scottsdale flying home today though I think, we had a hoot she is such good fun to be with, lucky me


Had a chance to watch quite abit of the live feed from Scottsdale and it was obvious that I never had a clue before just how "big" and "good" that whole package is. The quality with the quantity is unsurpassed from anything I have ever witnessed......it would be a hoot to attend in person!!
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Posted - 27 Feb 2008 :  03:06:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is a picture of Egbert ( on the left) with the famous artist and photographer Judith , taken by me( lyndilou)


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Posted - 27 Feb 2008 :  8:50:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gabriele to your friends list Send gabriele a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Egbert

Originally posted by Roseanne

Beautiful horses Jane; I also think Chiya has a lovely head and I don't think her ears are big! I guess it's cos you can see the base of them further down the neck. It's so good to see the horses whose pedigree's Gari has described. This is a very wonderful thread, though I will never really grasp the complexities of breeding.
It's hard to take pictures of outdoor horses at the end of winter, but thanks Sasha for doing a great job taking pictures of Zakhahn, and to you Gari for your very kind comments. I must point out I don't own him; he's with me just for backing and bringing on a bit, though I am very fond of him. He has an unbelievably kind, easy and cooperative nature and is very intelligent.

I have another pupil due to arrive soon and I wonder if you would be kind enough to give me your opinion on his breeding Gari? He is Kamal OS and I love the fact that he is related to my precious Lance through Lalique.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/kamal+os

Once again, thank you.


Roseanne,

This one is a bit of a challange because in my experience this blood mix will give different looks with different colors. I suspect gray and chestnut will be the two possible colors tho' there is a goodly amount of chestnut....but bay is a real possibility too as there are minimally 6 crosses to Arax! So your sire line is to Nazeer-for a bit of exotic, dam line to Rodania for absolute consistency-great breeding stock, phenomenal show quality in halter or performance, but there is an extra added fillip is that the line to Rodania goes via some of the most breathtakingly talented and gifted mares like his granddam Lalique, SX La Quinta, Faradina, on to the true progenitor of these remarkable fetes, *Rossana by Skowronek. Literally the mares emerging from this mare have been awesome. Incredible temperaments, phenomenal conformation, tremedous beauty, and a 'can do' attitude worthy of the world's greatest fighting forces. Nothing is too hard for this line to accomplish! They are worth their weight in gold. If you asked Kamal to leap from the White Cliffs of Dover to France...He would try! One of the great stories they tell about *Rossana is that they hooked her up to a cart shortly after her arrival from the UK. To their delight she was an old pro! They drove her all over the ranch and clearly someone had trained her to perfection. When they wrote Lady W singing her praises, Lady W wrote back that no one had ever put *Rossana in a cart, never mind driven her!!! This same attitude was evinced by a daughter taken back East to a convention in Missouri....(I think. Am working off of memory)...The delegates were meeting in the 20th story's dining room...and *Rossana's daughter was scheduled to be the evening's entertainment. She had never seen an elevator before, never mind a stage or an indoor restaurant! She performed like a champ and didn't even have an "accident" during the performance! She behaved as if she had done it all her life.

I'll tell you something, Roseanne...if there is anything wrong with Kamal it would have to be because there was brain damage. In the meantime he is a fabulous horse with a splendid pedigree. Will look forward to seeing those picts, too! Pedigrees just don't get any better!


Hi Gari,

I guess I've been hanging out at the wrong forums. This information here is of much more interest to me than any other topic on the Arabian horse. I am going to have to read this entire thread many times over to soak it all in. Fascinating stuff. Too bad there's not more discussion on this in the U.S. I'll be hanging around here.


Best,

Liane
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