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moatside
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Posted - 06 Jan 2008 :  8:59:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add moatside to your friends list Send moatside a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Would you be so kind as to tell me a little about my Christmas pressie? She is not on allbreeds but her Sire is O-Tejo & her Dam Mont Blanc - they are both on. I have traced her pedigree back 7 generations but being a new owner I am lacking in knowledge! I have no plans to show or breed but would love to know how she might mature and what she may or may not be good at!
This is a fascinating thread by the way!

www.spanglefish.com/kasanarhythmbeads/
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Silvern_Scepris
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Posted - 06 Jan 2008 :  9:59:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Silvern_Scepris to your friends list Send Silvern_Scepris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Egbert,
Please could you advise me what the likely outcome of this pairing would be? Do you think it is a good pairing? Once again, thanks in advance

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/imad
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/shayna+maydel

Elizabeth x



London/Essex Border
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Egbert
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Posted - 07 Jan 2008 :  11:30:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Gang!

Just back up on line several hours ago after 3 days of hurricane velocity winds, rain, incredible damage and no power...house and horses ok, but trees and some fences down. Am going to take care of a few things then back to answer questions starting with those on p 55.

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angel2002
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Posted - 07 Jan 2008 :  1:00:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angel2002 to your friends list Send angel2002 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OMG Egbert!! Glad to hear that your you, your horses and your house are all OK...My question can wait, you have more important stuff to deal with at the minute. Take care.

Angel
Passion Arabians
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Anfi
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Denmark
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Posted - 07 Jan 2008 :  3:47:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anfi to your friends list Send Anfi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Gari,

I had no idea you were in the middle of all that terrible weather I'm so very glad you and your precious horses are ok.

Many thoughts

Anne




I Do What I Can and I Am What I Am - Fay Weldon

Edited by - Anfi on 07 Jan 2008 3:47:59 PM
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emma
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 :  09:49:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add emma to your friends list Send emma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi

Gari i do hope everything is ok with you and all out there.

In the mean time Gari mentions on a previous page that Antham has a video on youtube and i thought i would also point out to everybody that there is also a video of Rushan on there too which i thought was super

I remember some time back at Towerlands UKIAHS a colt was presented by Barry Shephard in a display as opposed to a class, i remember him taking a fancy to the wooden ornamental display horse by the commentators box- was this Rushan or if not can someone tell me who it was?

Oh and Gari you are going to have to have a word with the authorities about relaxing the regulations cos ill be needing semen in 2010/ 2011!!


Emma
Fulmer House Arabians
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gentle001
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Wales
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Posted - 10 Jan 2008 :  4:07:41 PM  Show Profile  Click to see gentle001's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add gentle001 to your friends list Send gentle001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Gari

Just asking for your expert knowledge again!!!!

I have been trawling around trying to find a nice stallion for my mare Lakota Cisco www.allbreedpedigree.com/lakota+cisco





here is a pic of her last foal who i beleive is out of JACADAH IBN TAZADAH.



I want something that is more exotic (well thats the hope) Improvement on movement and a more refined head and do I dare say it hopefully black, who would you reccomend in the UK as a stallion and would you reccomend any of the American stallions who have Frozen AI available I have looked at Pirandelo, NV Beau Bey and Saud El Zaghlouland think they are lovely boys and do like alot of their youngstock BUT would they compliment my mare in more ways than just colour?????


Who would you pick if she was your mare?


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egyptianstallion
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 :  2:52:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add egyptianstallion to your friends list Send egyptianstallion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Egbert.
I am quiet new to owning a arab and was wondering if you could tell me a bit about my boys lines. I know and have seen his mother but know nothing about her parents or his fathers side.I would be very gratefull. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ibn+kysari
Thank you


Surrey/Berkshire http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ibn+kysari
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rafabreeze
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Posted - 18 Jan 2008 :  1:25:41 PM  Show Profile  Click to see rafabreeze's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add rafabreeze to your friends list Send rafabreeze a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Egbert

It was suggested I post this here, Im looking for information on the breeding lines of my new boy, his name is Rafael PA he is by Affirrmed (Magnum Psyche x Shimmering Star B) out of Raffalynne (Bey Shah x Khirby) any info would be appreciated. Georgina

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Lindsay
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Posted - 18 Jan 2008 :  1:44:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lindsay to your friends list Send Lindsay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi

A few people have suggested I post on here to ask your opinion (Egbert) on two possible stallions for my mare and the potential outcome of these crosses.

My mare is Silver Shadow - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/silver+shadow18

and her two potential husbands are

Binley Golden Flame - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/binley+golden+flame

and

Picasso kossack - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/picasso+kossack

What are your opinions?



Paidir dóibhsean le fiántas ina gcroíthe acu, atá coinnithe i gcaighin
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Cassie
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  02:48:39 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Cassie's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Cassie to your friends list Send Cassie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am going to see Klinta Bashir in a couple of weeks time, Mrs Dorsey says that they have three foals I assume they are by Klinta Bashir.

I am going as I am considering putting my mare to him, they have said that they will take her and have invited me to go on a visit and explain how they run things there, I am concerned about putting my mare in with alot of other mares, but I don't mind if they just put her and Klinta in a field together on their own. Also she can be difficult to catch when there are a few horses in together.

Still I am looking forward to seeing him and the little ones.

Christine

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Egbert
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  10:12:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CINDERS

Hi Egbert

As some people will know we lost our beautiful Ggrace early in 2007. She did however leave us with a daughter by Ansata Qasim and I would be interested in your thoughts about her and potential sires for the future. We would probably stick with straight egyptian

Also ideas for our straight spanish Ibiza (Borneo x Estepa)again staight spanish preferred but as an aside she is to be covered by Om el Bahreyn this year, what do you think, is this likely to be a good cross

Thanks for your help

Yvonne

Details of their strains would be interesting too.


Hi Yvonne,

Hmmmm, what a lovely Seglawi/Jellaby mare you have there. I think I knew her wonderful dam when she was with Wendy. Her daughter must be stunning sired as she is by Ansata Qasim, a true Seglawi via Wanisa...

It is a question of which came first...That line from which your girl traces back, was called a Kuhailan Jellaby until it was discovered she shares the same mtDNA (mitochondrial dna) as Bint Helwa so I think of the line as being slightly more robust than the Helwas BUT the same courage and toughness as the best of the Seglawis....

There are two stallions I would consider for her if you can use them and that is Simeon Sadik who is as so many of you know, awesome OR if you can do some major arm twisting, Hafid jamil who must be the most beautiful Arabian ever born.

Om El Bahreyn is a fabulously bred young stallion...and with his folks would imagine he is hot...Crossed with Ibeza I just don't know as there are 4 Estepa's listed in All Breeds. If you would, please determine which she is.
Thanks....


Dot,

Thank you!

More tomorrow!

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CINDERS
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England
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  11:46:39 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CINDERS to your friends list Send CINDERS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Estepa took Junior World Champion for the Maxwells. She was by Ghadames out of Esperada (2)

Thanks for your kind words about Ggrace I don't think I'll ever get over losing her. Her daughter is a great character, quite challenging, frightened of nothing but due I think mainly to her colour will take time to fulfil her full beauty. She was exquisite when born and is now very tall and elegant. Obviously we have plenty of time with her to persuade Hassanain or Dr Nagel. She has good limbs so that may be the way to go. I am going to visit Hassanain soon and hope to see Hafid Jamil in the flesh

Bahreyn has sired some lovely foals, we had one out of our russian mare Mirabella (Balaton x Malinka) which was not a breeding I would have instintively done but it certainly produced beauty.

Yvonne
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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  09:03:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yvonne,

Think the cross, Bahreyn on Ibiza would be very exciting. I've always felt that Estopa was a Kuhailan Dajania....based on the fact she produced as do her daughters today, outstanding stallions...which is the signature of Dajania line mares!

You never get over them but I think their spirits are such that they find ways of coming back to us....
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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  10:47:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by angel2002

Hi Egbert,

I have a big moving liver Chestnut mare by Bur Zehri out of Somrah about 14'3 (Photo in signature pics), she has bred me 4 foals (Chestnut colt by Kordelas, 2 Chestnut fillies by Psyches Image R and a Grey filly by Mostafa). She is not the most exotic looking of mares but does put bone and size on the foals, she also has a fantastic neck which has been put on all except one by Psyches Image R.

I am looking to put my mare back in foal next year and am thinking of using a stallion by Madallan Medheen x Ansata Aya Maria. The stallion is owned by a good friend of mine and as it would be his first foal crop I would hate to let him down by using my mare if the bloodlines really would not compliment each other. Do you think this is a good idea?

Thank you very much for your time, it is appreciated


Hi Angel,

You need to give me the stallion's name and your mare's name and it would be very helpful if you would put them on the All breed Database site post the citation so I can just click on them and go from there.

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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  10:49:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Moatside,

Wish I could help but really need you to do a little homework. Put her on All Breeds. It isn't hard and I'll be happy to give you a reading.
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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  11:09:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Silvern_Scepris

Hi Egbert,
Please could you advise me what the likely outcome of this pairing would be? Do you think it is a good pairing? Once again, thanks in advance

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/imad
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/shayna+maydel

Elizabeth x


Well, it would be an interesting cross, lots of pretty, terrific intelligence...excellent structure and superb action....BUT think it could be a bit stuffy as the foal would be pure in the strain Kuhailan Dajania as both dam lines/strains are the same, and since you have a goodly portion of Kuhailan within the pedigrees, would think you would want a bit more scope and stretch.

Your mare's sire line is Mahruss-she has to be a rocket scientist but would love to know her color. Since a cross with Imad would bring sire line Skowronek, you should have a lot of smooth pretty.

What is your intent? What do you want to do with this foal? Do you want more scope, size? A performance horse or halter horse? both?

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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  11:22:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by gentle001

Hi Gari

Just asking for your expert knowledge again!!!!

I have been trawling around trying to find a nice stallion for my mare Lakota Cisco www.allbreedpedigree.com/lakota+cisco





here is a pic of her last foal who i beleive is out of JACADAH IBN TAZADAH.



I want something that is more exotic (well thats the hope) Improvement on movement and a more refined head and do I dare say it hopefully black, who would you reccomend in the UK as a stallion and would you reccomend any of the American stallions who have Frozen AI available I have looked at Pirandelo, NV Beau Bey and Saud El Zaghlouland think they are lovely boys and do like alot of their youngstock BUT would they compliment my mare in more ways than just colour?????


Who would you pick if she was your mare?





Oh boy, the bar none most beautiful, most exotic black Arabian stallion I've ever seen is Simeon Sadik. He would give you the exotic. Then his son Arastin is absolutely magnificent and he is right up there with dad...and then if you were coming to the US and want transported semen Om El Arab's Dreamcatcher....

Were she my mare....anyone of the three would be phenomenal but I'd give the edge to Sadik...

Your sire line is Skowronek via Naziri (boy, if you were into experimentation I'd really think about one of the Carmargues ....).

Dam line is to the Davenport mare *Werdi, a Kuhailan Krush...Strong, versatile, loyal and very very intelligent would be my guess about Lakota!

Edited by - Egbert on 25 Jan 2008 11:32:53 AM
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Silvern_Scepris
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  11:23:10 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Silvern_Scepris to your friends list Send Silvern_Scepris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Egbert,

She's not mine, she belongs to Sue Rose. Shayna Maydel is grey and a very successful show mare; she has been Mare of the Year twice at Horse of the Year show. The foal would be breed to be future ridden prospect and follow in its dam's footsteps


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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  11:29:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by emma

Hi

Gari i do hope everything is ok with you and all out there.

In the mean time Gari mentions on a previous page that Antham has a video on youtube and i thought i would also point out to everybody that there is also a video of Rushan on there too which i thought was super

I remember some time back at Towerlands UKIAHS a colt was presented by Barry Shephard in a display as opposed to a class, i remember him taking a fancy to the wooden ornamental display horse by the commentators box- was this Rushan or if not can someone tell me who it was?

Oh and Gari you are going to have to have a word with the authorities about relaxing the regulations cos ill be needing semen in 2010/ 2011!!




Hi Emma! Thank you for the plug! Things are a lot more relaxed here but it is still time consuming - the paperwork takes 8 hours!!! Yug!

It wasn't Rushan as to the best of my knowledge there was only one handler and that was Stephen McMurrow. Besides, Rushan is PERFECT...!Seriously, he gives me goosebumps...He sires perfection, he behaves perfectly and his athletic ability is unreal....There is just none better than he is ...different but not better.
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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  11:49:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by egyptianstallion

Hi Egbert.
I am quiet new to owning a arab and was wondering if you could tell me a bit about my boys lines. I know and have seen his mother but know nothing about her parents or his fathers side.I would be very gratefull. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ibn+kysari
Thank you


Hi there,

Sire is straight Egyptian via Nazeer sire line. The sire's blood is gorgeous so would expect that your boy is very nice looking, too. The sire's dam line is to Bint Helwa so dad has to be pretty special-courageous, loyal, intelligent besides nice to look at!

The dam, Kytigra is by Ibn Tigris who traces to Kuhailan Haifi via *Bask, a US National Champion in halter and performance on the sire line. The motion and athletic ability here should be exceptional in your boy. Interestingly, she is double Donax, who had he only sired one horse (he sired many ) there could be none more influential than the great Zircon Nazeer, one of the most beautiful stallions ever! With that blood in your boy's pedigree combined with his tail female line to the great Nuhra, a Wadnan Khirsnan, I would expect Ibn Kysari could be a show horse and excel in both halter and performance.

Have a hunch you have a very beautiful, special guy!
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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  11:50:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by rafabreeze

Hi Egbert

It was suggested I post this here, Im looking for information on the breeding lines of my new boy, his name is Rafael PA he is by Affirrmed (Magnum Psyche x Shimmering Star B) out of Raffalynne (Bey Shah x Khirby) any info would be appreciated. Georgina


Hi Georgina,

Would you please go to All Breeds, create his pedigree if not there already and then re-post it here? Thanks!
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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  11:52:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Lindsay

Hi

A few people have suggested I post on here to ask your opinion (Egbert) on two possible stallions for my mare and the potential outcome of these crosses.

My mare is Silver Shadow - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/silver+shadow18

and her two potential husbands are

Binley Golden Flame - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/binley+golden+flame

and

Picasso kossack - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/picasso+kossack

What are your opinions?


Think we answered this privately????
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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  11:55:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Cassie

I am going to see Klinta Bashir in a couple of weeks time, Mrs Dorsey says that they have three foals I assume they are by Klinta Bashir.

I am going as I am considering putting my mare to him, they have said that they will take her and have invited me to go on a visit and explain how they run things there, I am concerned about putting my mare in with alot of other mares, but I don't mind if they just put her and Klinta in a field together on their own. Also she can be difficult to catch when there are a few horses in together.

Still I am looking forward to seeing him and the little ones.

Christine


Sorry, but I have seen too many horses injured when turned out with a new group. If they will take her and cover her away from the herd, that is fine but in good conscience never advocate turning out with a new group of horses. It is done but takes more guts than I have.

By the way, this is a painful response because I think Klinta Bashir is the single most important straight Crabbet stallion in the UK, if not the world. He is truly awesome.

Edited by - Egbert on 25 Jan 2008 11:57:13 AM
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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  12:00:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit Egbert's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Egbert to your friends list Send Egbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Silvern_Scepris

Hi Egbert,

She's not mine, she belongs to Sue Rose. Shayna Maydel is grey and a very successful show mare; she has been Mare of the Year twice at Horse of the Year show. The foal would be breed to be future ridden prospect and follow in its dam's footsteps


Elizabeth,

For performance the cross would be brilliant and very attractive!
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