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nikki
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 Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 2:58:52 PM
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what a pretty girl!
Hiya Egbert,
Hope your computor has speeded up for you, know how you feel!
Here is the website addy for the horses of Bahrain www.bahrainroyalstud.com you need to click on the strain name for the list of the 20 strains in Bahrain.
In the meantime would really appreciate you looking at Goudah's pedigree.
www.allbreedpedigree.com/goudah
Cheers Nikki |
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Lori
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England
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Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 3:28:56 PM
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Thank you so much Egbert for your time. I truly recognised everything you were saying about my two girls. You are so spot on. Again many thanks and you have given me so much to think about for the future.
Cheers Lori x |
     
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 : 06:25:38 AM
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Shaheena's dam line is rare...Jilfan El Bulad...I found a bare mention of it in Forbis to say that it was found alongside a tribe that also bred Menaghys (beautiful horses, not as described by Raswan who was an avowed enemy of the tribe breeding them). Supposedly the strain name translates as Sinews of Steel! According to Davenport the dam of El Bulad could not be purchased at any price she was so prized in the desert. The line was known for exceptional beauty, conformation and as a comfortable ride. Certainly your girls seem to fit that bill to a 'T'!
Nikki,
Goudah's is a straight Egyptian with dam line to the Kuhailan, Rodania....This line is best known for great health and fecundity plus quality especially when combined with Seglawi. She is so much more of course because she is the most influential of all the dam lines/strains.
Analysis suggests the potential for great beauty but more than that...an athlete.
Sadly I couldn't open the site properly and only was able to open the first page with a man astride a gray/white horse.
Lori,
Thank you!
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nikki
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Wales
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 : 10:09:11 AM
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heres a piccie of him, he belongs to HRH Prince of Wales, he has a very nice friend in Saudi who gave him Goudah.
He is now on loan to Jenny Lee's @ pearlislandarabians.
He is a dancing horse, yes very atheletic too.
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Edited by - nikki on 15 Mar 2007 10:19:48 AM |
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Egbert
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nikki
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 : 10:20:42 AM
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| Sorry was editing the last post-no-unfortunately-get the next best thing (Hopefully) a foal. |
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nikki
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nikki
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nikki
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nikki
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 : 10:24:19 AM
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not a very flattering picture of her(thats coz i took it) but Zaqrah is booked in to Goudah |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 : 11:30:58 AM
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Wow !that is really interesting Egbert I always knew Shani was speciel and to me she is the rearest rose in my herd, she is without doubt NEVER for sale at any price, I swore that to her the moment she was born, and she will never leave me .
She would walk through fire for me if I asked her to and will hold me with her head and neck close to her, and share her babies with me we have a speciel love that I have never had with any other horse ( although I love them all) |
   
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Egbert
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Posted - 16 Mar 2007 : 09:08:17 AM
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Goudah certainly lives up to his pedigree!
Lynda, Do I understand! She is a major Wow!
Afterthought: Nikki are there any additional pictures of Goudah just standing?
Later-Nevermind! Found one. He is a bit peaky so performance will be where he excels. Any thoughts of showing him? |
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Barabia
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Posted - 18 Mar 2007 : 4:13:54 PM
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Hi Egbert,
I've read the whole tread (phuu..!). It only took me about two weeks, but I must say I'm truly amazed of your gift!!
When (if) you have time, could you please look at this horses? The first one is a granddoughter to the stallion in my sig.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cinnamon+lady3
Next one is a 20y stallion, not much used I'm so sorry to say! As a mather of fact.. the British horses (Crabbet/OE) has been neglected in Sweden the last 15-20y! There is now very few breeders whom still is trying to prevent what's left!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bayard13
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KLee
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Canada
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 : 4:53:28 PM
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Hello everyone :)
I have been so blessed with finding this forum! I "Googled" Rodania tail female & ....
I have an Arabian mare, who was purchased 6 years ago (as a 6 year old) to be a companion for my other mare. She had never been ridden & had never left the farm she was born on. My husband & I walked in to a paddock with about a dozen other mares & she came right up to me & said hello. She was very thin, looked like she was ready to foal due to poor quality pasture, but her personality won me over instantly. We made an offer to buy her & went to pick her up a couple of weeks later. The trailer arrived at 3am *gasp* & although she was clearly frightened, walked right up on to the trailer behind me *smile*
I have become very interested in trying to find out about her background & after much searching, reading & searching lol have discovered that she may really be a princess !!
Her pedigree can be found here: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/princess+vanity
I would love to have your opinion on her background Egbert :-)
I don't know how to put in a picture, sorry.
Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful information with us :)) |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 : 5:26:48 PM
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Welcome to our site Klee you have found the best site for arabian horse lovers, we are all so friendly here and try to help each other, we are so honoured to have Egbert here as our mentor and friend and we really appriciate her sharing her time and experience, happy posting |
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KLee
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 : 7:37:30 PM
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aaaawww, thank you so much lyndilou
I've been trying to learn how to post a pic! I'm going to give it a try...
OMG it worked LOL!! This is Princess Vanity aka "Kieda" :=) |
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Egbert
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Posted - 20 Mar 2007 : 11:17:00 AM
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Hi All!
Barabia-Bia, You do me great honor to have read all the way through all of this! Hopefully some questions may have been answered. I love Cinnamon Lady's pedigree. What I particularly love is that you have created what should prove to be a mare that you can breed whichever way you want and have absolutely fabulous results. Why? She is, besides sire line to the Ali Pasha Sherif stallion, Mahruss and dam line to the Blunt's journey mare, Hagar, a Kuhailan Ajuz, she is triple Naziri up close and at least 2 additional lines to Naziri further back! Just to refresh people's memories...Lady W said that Naziri was the most 'perfect horse alive'...And if *Carmargue or *Padron are measures...it appears Naziri's influence, when it hits, is huge. Thus, Cinnamon Lady has an old but very successful if not distinguished pedigree that carries the potential for great beauty. Like so many with these bloodlines, they take forever to mature but if she isn't knock'em dead gorgeous now...she has the potential to be as she matures.
Bayard must be exceptionally sweet and kind. Sire line to Mesaoud via the wonderful stallion Bright Shadow who finished out his years with the Duke and Duchess of Rutland...a stallion highly venerated for his outstanding stock of rare, consistent quality giving outstanding limbs and feet and inestimably kind. Adding to the sweetness of this particular stallion is that his dam line goes back to Ferida via *Ferda whose descendants are remembered for their sweetness of temperament with nearly the same nostalgia as those tracing to her via Fejr. Ferida was a Menaghy, a strain renowned for beauty, loyalty and kindness.
Thank you for posting!
KLee-You are up next...later today or tomorrow! |
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eframe
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Mar 2007 : 11:36:43 AM
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Hi Egbert,
This thread is just amazing, and I it is such an insight into all the Arabs that we love so much and their pedigrees.
If you have time would you be able to have a look at my gelding? I bought him 3 years ago and have taken it very slowly with him, and this year I am starting to all the benefits of taking your time with youngsters, he has matured into a very nice young man and hopefully we will be able to get him to some local shows this year.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/red+house+oberon
The Next one our yards first homebred foal, out of a stunning Mare who we found in a riding school, and we are thinking of repeating the same breeding this year.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/zarkhruv
I would love to have your opinion on there backgrounds.
Evelyn
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Egbert
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Posted - 21 Mar 2007 : 09:04:35 AM
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Hi KLee!
Welcome to the the thread. Princess Vanity looks like a typical Rodania...and her Egyptian blood through the sire line is very influential. Look at the picture of *Morafic in the All Breeds pedigree...The difference I'd bet is that the Crabbet, old English, Davenport blood makes her very very intelligent...something she has beyond the Egyptian lines. Moreover the old English line to Naomi found on the grandsire's dam line tends to confer extreme sweetness of disposition through the Menaghi strain and is reiterated through Bint on the maternal grandsire's dam line...Also Bint Helwa can be found on the dam line via Gazyl doubled through Zarife and picked up again on the sire's side through Fadl (initially Yemama was thought to be a Jellaby but found out by the Bowlings that she and Bint Helwa shared the same original dam!) which gives extra love and courage.
What makes Princess's dam line very very special is that her dam's grandsire, Naharin....
http://www.sequoyahranch.com/root/ancestor/naharin.htm
was one of the most beautiful stallions ever! At twenty three he was stunning to behold...and better still, a wonderful ride and a joy to all that met him. And he was prepotent for that extra special beauty. Can only imagine the joy Princess brings you and the loyalty and love she gives back in return.
Evelyn, you are up next! |
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Timberwolf
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Posted - 21 Mar 2007 : 7:30:44 PM
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Hi Egbert,
Have been following this thread for what seems like years and your knowledge of the bloodlines and strains is amazing. When you get a spare moment could you please have a look at my mare Mozcata (Mascat/Mozaic) and give me your opinion on any future husbands!!
Thank you so much for your time.
Jackie. x |
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sammyd0380
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Posted - 21 Mar 2007 : 9:54:15 PM
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Hi Egbert,
Could you please look at my mare Mehshalla (Pogojii/Mehsha ex Shahpoor). Could you also give your opinion on H Tobago as a future husband for her!! I usually breed for racing, so will completely understand if you think this mare might not suit.
Many thanks in advance. Sam.
PS for some reason the damline won't come up on all breeds, I have tried to put it on but it won't seem to 'take'!
Her dam Mehsha is by Shahpoor out of Meha, and Meha is by Silver Flame out of Al Malika.
I'm not sure why it doesn't come up. Hope you can work this out!! |
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KLee
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Posted - 22 Mar 2007 : 12:57:28 AM
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Bless you, Egbert :-)) A lot of your explanation was a bit over my head - it's taken me so long investigating her female line LOL
The princess bears a striking resemblance to Naharin! Yes, she is very clever, likes to please & is a very kind, gentle soul. When the shedding ends.... & perhaps a spring bath... I will post a pic of her all pretty
Thank you once again xo
Karen
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Egbert
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Posted - 22 Mar 2007 : 09:28:47 AM
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Hi Evelyn,
Wow! What an outstanding youngster you must have! Actually this is one of those horses that are so forgiving you actually can make a mistake or two and not have to worry too much. Why? He is TRIPLE Bright Shadow with two lines on the sire's side and one on the dam's side through the maternal grandsire's dam line...Just one line to Bright Shadow in the first five generations means ultra kindness and gentleness.
Red's sire line is to the straight Egyptian stallion, Nazeer via the influential Hadban Enzahi. This line confers a certain level of exotic beautiful, refined heads, large eyes, fine muzzle so well represented by his grandsire the stunningly beautiful Mustapha, the 1991 British National Champion who was out of a full sister to Carmargue's dam Velvet Shadow, Crystal Shadow. The mares of this line are phenomenally consistent producers of top quality stock....they bring out the best to whomever they are bred. The frosting in this instance is that the quality is doubled in Red's dam line which is also to the great Ali Pasha Sherif, Seglawi Jedran mare, Bint Helwa, renowned for exceptional sweetness, loyalty and awesome courage,of whom we have written extensively. Finally, Red must be very very well put together as he has the extremely correct Kasadi as well as so many of the great Crabbet lines renowned for great conformation and action throughout the pedigree.
Zarkhruv must be beautiful. By the most beautiful bay El Shaklan ever foaled, IMHO, Dhruv, whose dam line traces to the great Dafinetta by Naziri whose beauty has been noted in previous posts, a Kuhailan Khrush-the same strain as the great Padrons Psyche and she traces to quite a group of Polish and Egyptian lines but bringing forth a good deal of harmony in that she traces back to both Skowronek via the Naseem grandsons, Nabor, Bandos, Naseel along with the Skowronek daughter, Naxina and re-establishing the Nazeer on the dam's side via Bint Om El Saad and the great Alaa El Din (loaded with the great old Crabbet lines, of Kazmeen, Bint Helwa via Radia and Risala. Indeed she is a Seglawi Jedran via the great Bint Helwa and her sire line is Nazeer and she is loaded with the creme de la creme of Spanish, Egyptian, Polish and Crabbet stock. Who did you breed her to? She must be lovely. All in all you definitely have treasures in these two...It is also interesting to note that you have the same dam line coming through which suggests that you are subconsiously selecting for the extreme quality that comes with the line....something most of the great breeders do over here...very unwittingly!
Timberwolf, you are next; Sammy...am having the same problem. Will try datasource when I do Timberwolf's pedigree and can check your's. |
Edited by - Egbert on 22 Mar 2007 09:45:47 AM |
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Barabia
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Posted - 22 Mar 2007 : 9:23:21 PM
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Hi Egbert, and thank you sooo much for your answer!
I've learned a lot in this tread, but to remember all of it is a nother question!! I must read several times (if that helps?) I've always had a bad memory about names, but I always remember numbers (birthdates, telephone numbers.. and so on!) Well, one is never to old for learning.. eeh?
This horses are not mine, but I'm trying to help my friends here in Sweden who have bought some horses from me in the past. I'll be back and I'll follow this tread with high interest.
Thank you again!
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Egbert
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Posted - 23 Mar 2007 : 10:01:11 AM
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Hi Timberwolf,
You have a beautifully bred, 3/4 Russian, with old English and Egyptian line mare. Her sire line is to Nazeer via Aswan which is usually indicative of exotic beauty and dam line to the versatile Wadnan Khirsnian desert import Nuhra via the incredible Kazra from whom so many wonderful horses descend. There is great beauty via Irex and Mikeno along with tremendous action via the Azrek grandson Berk, as well. So with that kind of pedigree, it would be kind of hard to go wrong whoever you decided to breed her to. There are so many tremendous stallions available in the UK...and with a mare as versatily bred as your's...you can look at them all, decide what look you like best and breed the mare accordingly. What is the look you like best? One of the nicest things about your mare's breeding and especially with that dam line is the innate desire to please you as her special person. With such a mare you can't lose. |
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