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sazzlepants71
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 United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 11:09:36 AM
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Hi thought i would ask people's thoughts on the scary array of mobility products on the market..
which one's have you found to wk ? at all? and good value for money!
I wanted something to help with flexibility and suppleness ,not that my boys have problems but i really think it would help with joints and muscle recovery etc..
any recommendations gratefully recieved!
i have looked at cortaflex , D & H Mobility - NAF supple joint formula and codliver stuff..
then thought god there's soooo many of them ! were do you start !
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pascoe
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England
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 11:41:09 AM
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| Hello, the only one i have used is cortaflex... and am sorry to say that i cant comment on it either way, i have a old horse with hip problems and at the time did not want to go down the route of using bute, so we thought that we would see if Cortaflex was any good... Was quite exspensive becasue of the amount you need to use, cost me about £30.00 every four weeks for one pony (welsh sec D), i think due to the damage to his hip it did not stand much change of making a difference to be fair (he is now on two x bute a day and still going).. But on another note we tried the bi flow boots (sorry spelling) and they worked for a while and are really good, i always feed my horses Codliver Oil but would really recommend in investing in some Bi Flow boots they are fab for joints and muscle recovery etc and they are all natural (sorry spelling). Hope that helps. Pascoe |
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shah
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England
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 1:55:45 PM
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| I have used Devil's Claw. Natural product that smells lovely and is not overly expensive (I bought it from an eBay shop). We're not sure if it has made any changes (although that's not due to the product) so we've just taken him off it to see, but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. |
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pascoe
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England
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 2:17:15 PM
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| Hmmm interseting, i thought Devil's claw was like a pain killer? What does it do? |
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Judith S
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Wales
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 4:32:36 PM
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| I use NAFs Soluable Superflex & Devils Relief for Fly my old Arab mare - this combinations really seems to work well in keeping her mobile. Have tried other makes but they have never been as effective. |
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arabic
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England
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 5:38:47 PM
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Devils claw is a pain killer come anti- inflamatory, natures version of ibuprofen. I think lots of the horsey products contain glucosamine, chrondroitin and msm all of which you can probably get in the health shop for less money. (unfortunately I am privilaged to this info as my hubby suffered an injury years ago and has taken quite a few herbal/homeopathic concoctions)
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Renee
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 7:54:15 PM
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Hi all,
Over the years, I've tried just about everything on my 33 year old gelding who can't have bute or any drugs due to liver problems. I personally didn't get much success with the formulations such as cortaflex & NAF supaflex (although I do like NAF products).
For arthritis/stiffness, he has Devil's Claw tincture, MSM, Rhus Tox, Ruta Grav & Arnica homoeopathic remedies every day. I give him Linseed Oil & Apple Cider Vinegar about 3-4 times a week. During the day when he's turned out he has Bioflow boots on, and at night in winter is bandaged all round to keep his joints warm and supported. He is never shut in his stable, but has a big (25'x30') yard to walk around in as well. In the summer I also cut willow branches and feed them to him, although he tends to be a lot better in the summer anyway. I've had lots of advice from a vet who's a herbalist, and also a bit of trial and error.
If you are buying 'straight' herbs (either tinctures or dry herbs) I would recommend the organic herb trading company in Somerset as they are tons cheaper than anywhere else, subject to a £50 minimum order.
Hope this helps,
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AkramGold
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England
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 9:05:18 PM
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Hi Sarah,
I have tried loads with Akrams injuries but not found any to work really even cortaflex which is really expensive. The safe and sound does have msn which you can buy on its own to. I found the best thing was a magnetic blanket and acupunture. xx |
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shah
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 09:05:07 AM
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Akram - how are you getting on with the magnetic blanket? I've bought one but I still haven't tried it. I wasn't sure of how to begin with it to be honest, how long should you try before you have it on for a longer period? How did yours react to it?
Devils Claw tincture by the way is often given to people with arthrities to help stiffness. Shah has been off it for a week now so I will see tonight if he feels any stiffer, although with the cold it might be difficult to judge. |
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AkramGold
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England
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 10:37:47 AM
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Hi,
I used the rug a lot when I was bringing Akram back from a bad injury. I used it mainly over night when he was in the stable and it definatly brought down swelling in his back and hind quarters. I have turned him out in it in the summer if the weathers been OK. I have an armadillo one that you can move the magnets around depending where the problem places are. I did use it for an hour or two at the weekend to start with but didn't really think it worked when it was on for such a short time. Hope this helps  |
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Jules-Apache
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Posted - 11 Feb 2006 : 12:07:48 PM
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Misty will be 25 in May, and I give her equiflex by healthspan www.healthspan.co.uk it comes from jersey and is much cheaper than cortaflex etc.
I also feed linseed, but find the biggest help is to make sure she gets turned out daily, and not to give her too many days off - especially if the weather is v cold.
I do have magnetic boots, but haven't used them for a few weeks and she doesn't seem any worse without them.
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CeliaS
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Wales
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Posted - 12 Feb 2006 : 9:00:01 PM
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I have tried feeding equiflex and was not sure I noticed any difference really. Magnetic boots can help and I use them occasionally.
As far as cod liver oil goes, I started to take it myself and have noticed quite a difference - not so creaky in the morning, but I wouldn't give it to my horse as it is from fish. I use cheap and cheerful cooking oil to add calories for my thin skinned TB but if feeding oil an anti-oxidant is recommended and I feed a Vitamin E and Selenium supplement.
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jillandlomond
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Posted - 12 Feb 2006 : 10:21:42 PM
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I routinely use Equimins MSM which is a very bio available source of sulphur, particularly important for the flexibility of joints.
It costs £21 for 1KG (free p&p)and lasts about 4 months.
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sazzlepants71
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 1:35:32 PM
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hello everyone , thanks very much for all your advice !
devils claw makes sense to me although i dont want 'mask' pain or porblems just aid flexiblity...
MSM is in the safe and sound but i want more! so might give Jill's a try , dont really want to feed the fishy stuff !
makes their wee smell yuk!
i have a few variations here so i will give them a try & let u know..! |
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Jules-Apache
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Posted - 18 Feb 2006 : 12:03:58 PM
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Hi,
Let us know how you got on..
The other thing I forgot to add, which I think does make a big difference is regular visits from the physio, if they are a bit stiff, they can compensate in other area's with this, and I fend it really helps to keep them supple and sound.
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Roseanne
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Feb 2006 : 6:49:37 PM
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| The chap who runs our animal feed shop and horse stuff sales takes the Flex powder himself and said he's done a long experiment with it and it definitely works... (It has MSM, glucosamine & condroitin etc). He was told by the rep it is made in as clean conditions as that for humans and was safe. He took it because when he got up from a crouching position his knees crackled dreadfully. He took it for three or four months, then got some more and the crackling went. As a trial - because he thought it might have just gone anyway - he stopped and within a fortnight his knees were crackling again so he's back on it permanently. Some of the human supplements are vastly expensive in comparison! |
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sazzlepants71
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Feb 2006 : 1:10:36 PM
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thanks roseanne , this is the cortaflex then ?
panache has a physio session the other day it is feeling better & had his saddle checked , he will be a busy boy the next few months especially as we are doing ER now so want to keep him well & supple
i will give the flex a try & maybe MSM ..
I MIGHT use it on my knees!!!
they are really painful!! |
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helen greenhill
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Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 2:23:21 PM
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| i've found cortaflex to be a very good supplement, i use it on 3 of mine and the dog!! i have tried a few others but none of them have been a patch on it. it's actually quite competitive price wise if you work out cost per day. hope this is some help! |
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