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Deboniks
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 Posted - 02 Jan 2006 : 8:40:00 PM
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I know there are quite a few of you here!! I wondered if any of you used horsemans reins?
I used mine for the first time today and thought they were fantastic! I bought my headstall,a western one,in England along with the bit,and the slobber straps,chin straps and horsemans reins from USA. Flame hasn't had a bit in his mouth for years but takes to things really well. I only rode for half an hour tonight just to go through a few things with him and will ride longer tommorow. He was so light and responsive, I wish I'd got them ages ago! So any of you who like me has been riding in a natural hackamore for years should really give it a go! The reins release so much quicker with the slobber straps, it's instant! The only thing I wish I could change is the colour! I bought white and although I think they look better than black, black wouldn't need washing so often!
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Gemma
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 : 4:00:43 PM
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Yes, I use them as well and am really pleased with the results.
The only thought I have is that because the combination of the reins and the slobber straps is quite heavy, I wonder whether it pulls at the mouth at all? It was just a thought that came to me yesterday in the bath as I was mulling over our lovely hack out (as these kinds of thoughts often pop up!) and I haven't really had a chance to think it through or test any of it out. |
 
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Gemma
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 : 4:08:10 PM
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As you can see from my signature, I use a rope hackamore a lot, but if Marigold is particularly fresh, I pop her snaffle bridle on. You can't really see the bridle in the following picture, but you can see the reins:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/GemmaBishop/XmasRide2005003.jpg
I also like having a lead rope as well - saves having to carry one for those vital pub stops!! |
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Deboniks
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 : 5:54:48 PM
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Hi Gemma
I wondered where all the NH people had gone Mine is heavy to,but if you think about it..... imagine using ,for example, the type of nylon light weight rope most lead ropes are made from?? The first thing you would loose is 'feel'.My reins are made from tree line which I find more sensitive than yaught braiding.Did you find somewhere in England that sells slobber straps and chin straps?If you did can you give me their contact please as I need some more.
Cheers
Debbie
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Gemma
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 : 6:00:48 PM
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I bought a Parelli bridle through the (as-was) UK branch. Might that be worth a try? They certainly sell the chin-straps separately. The only thing with the slobber straps is that they have the logo on them - up to you whether you like it or not. I bought the two-toned western style bridle and it's lovely!
I know what you mean about the nylon lead-rope and loss of feel. I think I'm going to try hanging the bridle off my hands and get the Man to play with the reins and see how it feels.
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Gemma
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 : 6:01:31 PM
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| P.S. Tree line? What's that - I've not heard of that before.... |
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Deboniks
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 : 6:09:57 PM
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| Tree line is what arborists use. I was on a clinic where we explored the feel of all different types of rope. It came out best. All my stuff is made by Double Diamond. I like the Parelli stuff it's very good and I wouldn't mind the logo but as you have to go direct to USA now to buy it you might as well get it from where ever you like. I'm going to make a set up especially for the winter as I've got a horse hair tassle on the end of the rope which won't look very nice if it gets muddy! |
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Deboniks
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Posted - 05 Jan 2006 : 2:26:39 PM
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I bought my stuff from www.lostbuckaroo.com
You can see the tree line mecate there.
I'm teaching him the North,East,South,West game to get him used to turning, it's good fun and excercise a bit simular to the clover leaf pattern but using cones as gates so the horse gets to learn the pattern easier.I couldn't see your slobber staps or reins well in the picture,what kind of bit are you using? |
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Gemma
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Posted - 05 Jan 2006 : 3:05:52 PM
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Thanks Debbie - I'll have a look when I'm not working (oops!supposed to be doing that now!)
How about this picture? I know it's not much clearer but a little!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/GemmaBishop/MinnismoorShowAug14th2005021.jpg
The bit is one of the Parelli ones - a sweet iron jointed snaffle with copper inlays. To be honest, I only use it should I have any problems on the roads. I'm terrified of litigation! She works very well off seat and leg aids so the bit is only really there just in case. |
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Deboniks
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Posted - 05 Jan 2006 : 5:41:01 PM
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Hi Gemma ,Thanks I can see now!
As for riding on the roads in a Natural Hackamore... I'm insured with Pet Plan and I've got a letter from them saying I am insured to ride on the roads with one. I had to send them info on how they worked etc first though.If you are insured with them if you ever needed a copy I've got one. |
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mazey
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England
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Posted - 05 Jan 2006 : 7:09:11 PM
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Hi Debbie, I ride in either natural hackamore rope halter or a leather bosal/hackamore, but I also have a couple of western leather bridles, which I use with a sweet iron bit and long rope reins with slobber straps.
I'll post a pic when I get time this weekend - my friend made the bridle and the slobber straps for me - she also made me a beautiful braided leather hackamore which I bought for western showing. |However my mare is quite bouncy and I can't crack the western jog on her, she also hates being in the ring with other horses and goes round with her ears back and was told by one western trainer (in the pleasure class) that she didn'[t look like a pleasure to ride - so I have given up doing any western shows with her, although she is really good at trail classes - Parelli training paying off!!
I bought a coil of yachting rope from the ship's chandlers and I have used it for reins and lead ropes - it is much cheaper than buying from Parelli.
Gemma - its nice to meet someone else who rides western- where are you based? |
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Gemma
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Posted - 06 Jan 2006 : 09:28:37 AM
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I'm insured with NFU - I really ought to check where I stand with riding on the roads bitless (and bareback for that matter!).
Mazey - my mare isn't great in the pleasure classes either as she's just too damned quick. We're working on slowing her jog down but she naturally strides out very business-like! And like you, trail is ok thanks to Parelli. But Western riding seems to be our strong-point. I can ride a pretty accurate pattern. We're in Kent. How about yourself? |
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tamila
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Posted - 06 Jan 2006 : 4:49:28 PM
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I hsve never thought to ask the insurance co if it is ok to ride in just the Parelli halter asndf rope. This is probably becsause Rim goes so well in this without arguing with me as he did with a bit. He has been safer since I have used the halter.
I haven't tried him back in a bit as he schools extremely well without one and having read all about Dr. Cooks's research I can see why. |
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Judith S
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Posted - 06 Jan 2006 : 6:14:00 PM
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Debbie - I've got the level 1 pack - yet to read it - starting tonight!! - am going to work through it together with one of my mares - Ginger (6 year old 56% American Saddlebred x pb Arab)- shes abso no respect for handler on the ground (OK ridden!) having been thoroughly spoilt by her previous owner - so it will be a BIG learning curve for the both of us! I've just been over to see a friend today - shes working towards her level 3 - I saw her PB Arab when she had just got him & he was a fire breathing, hunting fit, badly handled horse & she was frightened of him. Four years on it was amazing to see the difference in the horse & her confindence in handing him - all thanks to Parelli!
I am sure it will make for "interesting" reading - my work with Ginger - shes a VERY dominant girl & has BIG ideas as to what SHE wants to do & is VERY prone to red-haired "tantrums" BIG time!!! (I'm red headed as well) - her first reaction to something she doesn't want to do is to rear! Shes horrible to get shod - I have to give her some ACP paste - but that takes about 2 hrs to work on her & she will still rear when my VERY patient farrier does her fronts! So at the mo shes unshod & appears to have very hard small well shaped feet!! Ridden - shes VERY bold & abso nothing frightens her!! But we do have interesting times when I have to dismount to do gates - then she really is a pain to get back on & we spend about 10 mins - me moving her back to the bank to remount - eventually she gets bored & will stand like an old beach donkey!!
Oh - I could go on................
Judith XXX
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Deboniks
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Posted - 06 Jan 2006 : 7:18:33 PM
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Hiya Judith, Good luck with the Parelli,it changed my life with horses completly. You are really lucky to have someone close by to help you out. You need to remember to keep thinking like a horse and not a human.You might like to listen to Clinton Anderson on the Horse Radio he's very good. If you ever need any advise there are a few of us here to help you.
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Judith S
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Posted - 06 Jan 2006 : 8:13:22 PM
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Debbie - thanks!! My friend lives about an hr from here & is a very busy lady!!LOL Still got to get to listen to the Radio prog - hubby wants to listen to other things! Grrr!!!
I am sure I will be shouting for HELP!!!!
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mazey
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Posted - 07 Jan 2006 : 3:31:39 PM
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I'm missing out here - what's horse radio?
Gemma I'm in Cornwall so unfortunately miles awayfrom most horsey things going on. |
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Judith S
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Posted - 07 Jan 2006 : 5:01:49 PM
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Hi Trudi
Living in the wilds of Wales I'm also usually too far away from horsey things!! The web site for the radio is: www.thehorseshow.com
I've only dipped in so far but it looks very interesting!
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tamila
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Posted - 07 Jan 2006 : 6:09:36 PM
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I actually moved away from the total Parelli concept as for some reason Rim became agressive. I think it may have the person who helped me with some of the actions and she was too pushy. After 2 sessions with someone who was Parelli trained but had started on her own he completely chsanged and even started talking to me when we played.
His favourite game is 'pasenger'. He chats away to me as we wander around at his pace.
Have fun Judith but do not rush and become disillusioned. It does work. Do listen to the audio tape which comes with Level 1. |
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Deboniks
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Posted - 07 Jan 2006 : 6:29:56 PM
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Being aggressive to a horse is very bad.Correction is OK but should be given without aggression and then forgotten about.That's how horses deal with each other in herds.Learning about herd behaviour really helped me understand the programe.To get horses to be respectful sometimes looks aggressive to the untrained eye. NEVER threat...ALWAYS promise, NEVER lie...ALWAYS be truthful if you do this with your horse your expectations are clearer.
Judith are you on broadband? If you want I can send you 'loads' of info from the old Parelli site which would help you? |
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Judith S
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Posted - 07 Jan 2006 : 6:58:35 PM
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Yes - am on Broadband!
Ginger is the Alpha mare in the mare herd - I think she also treats humans the same way.....shes the BOSS mare & we have to do what she wants!! Could be interesting............ |
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Deboniks
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Posted - 07 Jan 2006 : 7:15:12 PM
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Yes it will be interesting!! Ginger's in for a reality check!LOL
If your PC will except it I can forward on magazines and training info on PNH but I would need your e mail |
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Judith S
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Deboniks
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Posted - 07 Jan 2006 : 9:34:18 PM
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| Hi Judith,Sent you 'a few' Parelli mags! Hope you got them. |
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ella
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Posted - 10 Jan 2006 : 11:41:38 AM
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Hi Debbie, there are various places you can buy the slobber straps and reins etc from in UK. Try a search on "rein leathers" rather than "slobber straps". Scotknots, Smeltings Farm, Silversand, Quantum, Horse & Harmony are some possibilities off the top of my head.I think I bought my last set from Smeltings Farm. UK Savvy Club also still sells these and will continue to, although maybe not with "Parelli" logo on.
Personally I don't like using rein leathers 'cos they irritate my horse when riding Freestyle. I use either horseman's reins that end in heavy bit clips (Parelli USA selling these soon) or a western snaffle bit that has extra-heavy rings. These both have the same action of slowing the signal but don't swing about so much when the reins are loose. |
   
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