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Lanabanana
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Posted - 20 May 2006 :  2:39:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lanabanana to your friends list Send Lanabanana a Private Message
I do believe it's Michael Byatt and Al Adeed Al Shaqab.


Hampshire.
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LoLoXLC
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Posted - 20 May 2006 :  2:50:12 PM  Show Profile  Send LoLoXLC an ICQ Message Bookmark this reply Add LoLoXLC to your friends list Send LoLoXLC a Private Message
The second white one is indeed Al Adeed. The first looks a bit like TheEgyptianPrince to me. But somehow I think it could also be a mare...

By the way: The black and white pics above, was this indeed Zircon Nazeer?

http://home.arcor.de/loloxlc
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Mike
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Posted - 20 May 2006 :  3:43:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
The photo is of a mare to which Al Aadeed is related. And no the black & white photo's aren't of Zircon Nazeer

Mike

Edited by - Mike on 20 May 2006 3:45:25 PM
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Mike
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Posted - 26 May 2006 :  4:30:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Perhaps a slightly more blatent clue is needed?

Mike

http://www.imperialegyptianstud.com/our-story/index.html
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Anfi
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Posted - 27 May 2006 :  10:51:52 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anfi to your friends list Send Anfi a Private Message
Hi Mike,

Yes a biggish clue would be very welcome

Anne




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Lanabanana
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Posted - 27 May 2006 :  11:20:47 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lanabanana to your friends list Send Lanabanana a Private Message
Hi Anne,
I think Mike's clue was the link to the Imperial Stud website.
The mare in the photo is Malekat el Gamal, Al Adeed's maternal grandmother. I had looked on the website before, but wasn't sure it was her.


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Anfi
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Posted - 27 May 2006 :  8:20:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anfi to your friends list Send Anfi a Private Message
Well trust me to miss a clue like that

Anne




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BobandEna
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Posted - 02 Jun 2006 :  11:24:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Hi,
I think Mike is at this time bussy, so I hope he will forgive me for butting in with two more.

WHO IS THIS



AND

WHO IS THIS





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LoLoXLC
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Posted - 03 Jun 2006 :  07:14:14 AM  Show Profile  Send LoLoXLC an ICQ Message Bookmark this reply Add LoLoXLC to your friends list Send LoLoXLC a Private Message
I think the first could be Hamdan.

The second is Aswan.

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BobandEna
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Posted - 04 Jun 2006 :  8:25:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Hi Claudia,

Well done the second one is a young Aswan.

I must confess I am fishing with the first one, not shure if it is Hamdan or not,? Anyone know for shure?

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Mike
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Posted - 05 Jun 2006 :  12:05:07 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Hi,

I am 99.999% certain that the horse is indeed Hamdan taken in very old age. The man holding the horse is I believe Mr Ahmed Hamza, who was of course Hamdan's last owner and there is a very similar photo(where the horse is identified as Hamdan) with Mr Hamza wearing the same clothes but Hamdan is stood on his right rather than on his left as here Which makes me think that both photos were taken during the same photo session

Mike
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BobandEna
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Posted - 07 Jun 2006 :  6:22:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Thanks for that Mike,

If people scan a photo and post it and someone else then scans it, it oftern happens that you get a flipp image this could explane your two photos.

Thanks again.

Bob

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BobandEna
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Posted - 07 Jun 2006 :  8:19:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Try this one,

What is incorrect about this photo?




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Mike
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Posted - 07 Jun 2006 :  9:00:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Do you want me to answer that Bob? Seriously though when I have time I will scan and post the photo of HamdanThough technically speaking the caption is misleading rather than being incorrect

Mike
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BobandEna
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Posted - 07 Jun 2006 :  11:36:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Thank you my friend I stand corrected, Misleading it is.

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Aremeriel
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Posted - 08 Jun 2006 :  07:07:43 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aremeriel's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Aremeriel to your friends list Send Aremeriel a Private Message
Hmmmmm... 1958 should have been on the line underneath as it looks like he was born in 1958, when it was in fact that year he was Champion Stallion.. Or do you think about something else?

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BobandEna
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Posted - 08 Jun 2006 :  10:45:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Hi Siri,

First may I extend a BIG WELCOME to you as a new member and hope your stay will be long lived,

You are correct in that the date refers to his win, but this is not what I am looking for, by the way in the way of a clue, this was taken from a book of passed USA National Arabian Champions.


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BobandEna
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Posted - 10 Jun 2006 :  8:57:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
TIME FOR A CLUE.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobandena/162902995/ title Photo Sharing gt lt img src http://static.flickr.com/61/162902995_f746060070_o.jpg width 640 height 507 alt Mujahid Sureyn x Silver Crystal / gt lt /a gt " border="0" style='cursor:default' onClick='doimage(this,event)'>

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zara
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Posted - 11 Jun 2006 :  5:35:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zara to your friends list Send zara a Private Message
The horse in the first photo seems to have a long neck and the horse in the second a short neck. Is one of them a different horse? The second one is probably Mujahid [ Sureyn x Silver Crystal] and the first phot is a differnt horse. ??????????

"to his virtues ever kind, and to his faults a little blind".
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Mike
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Posted - 11 Jun 2006 :  10:57:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
The 2nd photo is indeed Mujahid photographed presumably around the age he was when he was US National Champion. The pose and manner of the photo are typical of how arabs were portrayed in photos during the 1950's in the USA The trend being to try to make the horses look muscular and powerfull along the lines of a scaled down quarterhorse

But, fashions in photography change as they do in horses, so this later photo also shows Mujahid, note also the change in halter style


As does this one


Mike

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jaj
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Posted - 11 Jun 2006 :  11:34:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
I do love the fact that they were not stretched in the good ole days! but hey, don't get me started....

Jen




Kuraishiya (Maleik el Kheil/Kazra el Saghira) and Sahara Bey (Kuraishiya/WSA Charismma)
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LoLoXLC
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Posted - 12 Jun 2006 :  8:00:27 PM  Show Profile  Send LoLoXLC an ICQ Message Bookmark this reply Add LoLoXLC to your friends list Send LoLoXLC a Private Message
And who is the other horse then?

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BobandEna
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Posted - 13 Jun 2006 :  10:45:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Hi,
Thank you all for your input, this was not intended to be a trick question, it was more to say do not believe anything you hear and only believe half of what you see.

The second horse was indeed

Mujahid Sureyn x Silver Crystal USA National Champion

But the first horse was

Azraff 1949(Raffles - Azja)
Colour: gr
Height: 15h

AHR 5596

Raffles\\\' most prolific son. Died 1978. Sire of 21 Champions & National Champions.


These were taken from a book of USA National Champions I think 1958, but the first one is a mislabel.


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zara
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Posted - 14 Jun 2006 :  1:39:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zara to your friends list Send zara a Private Message
BobandEna I WANT that baby white donkey in your pics. Pleeeeze tell us more about him!

"to his virtues ever kind, and to his faults a little blind".
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BobandEna
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 :  9:06:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Hi Zara,

I spend all my spair time on the WEB and he just came up one day, I remember he was from the USA, I will try to track him down.

NOW YOU LOT HAVE HAD A GOOD REST




WHO IS THIS / WHERE IS IT / AND WHY IS IT THERE ??





Mike, this should be just up your street.

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