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Anfi
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 Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 08:29:45 AM
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What a wonderful photo, Bob
Unfortunately I don't have any idea about who they might be
How about a clue
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Jingo
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 08:50:38 AM
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Sorry to hear you won't make Tersk Holland, maybe next year
Bob - great minds think alike!!!! Even if we're wrong
I agree with Anne a lovely picture - is it three generations |
Jude
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BobandEna
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 11:49:56 AM
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Anne Jude
Yes a great photo and very deceiving, the first clue is
Father Mother and Son
That on it's own makes it a great photo
Clue No Two
One of these horses is very famous,
Good hunting
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Lynda
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BobandEna
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C.J.
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 4:19:49 PM
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Well 'Uncle Bobo' - I don't know who the horses are either so that's both you and me Anne!
Going back to KARTA for a moment; she was the dam of KILIMANJARO and the grand dam of KAPRON who Gill Trimingham (Grange Arabians, UK) had on lease for one year in 1985. He was by ASWAN x CAROLINA by SALON x KARTA, unfortunately I never saw him but maybe someone else did who can tell us about him? (I have photographs of some of his offspring taken at various shows)
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BobandEna
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 4:45:22 PM
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Hi Caroline,
Trust you are well?
The father speaks lots of languages (five to my knowlage)
He died in Norway
More clues later
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C.J.
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 8:22:36 PM
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Hello Bob
Yes I'm very well thank you, just rushed off my feet with the job! (Same place but more responsibilities) Will have to sit and think about your puzzle though maybe you have found my achilles heel again?
Lots of love and hugs from
Caroline
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"And God said to the Wind 'Be thou gathered together.' And the wind was gathered together....And he created from a handful of wind a horse of chestnut colour like gold. And God let loose the Swift Runner, and he went on his way neighing."
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BobandEna
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 8:47:39 PM
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Caroline,
Does that mean we have to call "U" My Lady ??????
If it does then may I say
My Lady you should be learning RUSSIAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
One more Clue
The avarge LOTO win would not buy "U" one of these ARABIAN HORSE"s
Only Lady "P" could afford IT
Lot's of LOVE
BOB
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Anfi
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 01:10:29 AM
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Was the sire Peleng?
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BobandEna
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 10:11:33 AM
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Anne Love,
Is IT, Could it BE, I think, Was the Sire
DO not COUNT
IT IS, THAT HORSE IS,
Does COUNT
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Anfi
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 2:16:18 PM
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Bob,
Somehow I knew you would say that
Ok, here it goes:
The father is Peleng! He was bred at Tersk, stayed in Holland for a few years, was exported to the US for $3,200,000, returned to England, and ended his days in Norway at stutteri Rine. That's five languages! And he may even have picked up some Finnish in transit from Russia
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Jingo
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 2:53:37 PM
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So is the mare Primanka? and the babe their offspring?
Just guessing |
Jude
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BobandEna
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 5:04:44 PM
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Anne Buddy,
Well done the father is indeed Peleng 1978(Nabeg - Palmira)
died in 2002; 2/17(6-0-4), RASB*2336, AVS*3984, AHSB*22991
Bred by Tersk Stud, Russia. Champion show and racehorse. Sold from Tersk for $3,3 mill. One of Nabegs best sons. National Champion Holland 1988 & -89. Sold to USA, later England, Norway.
Jude,
Well done to you also, it is Primanka 1978(Moment - Planeta)
Now it's just a matter of time before we know the name of the baby
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Mike
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BobandEna
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 6:30:17 PM
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Hi Mike,
Sorry my freind, you must try again,
Bob
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Anfi
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 7:18:20 PM
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Well it cannot be SR Pokemon either, the socks are all wrong Unless of course one of the photos has been mirrored
I cannot find anymore offspring registered to Peleng x Primanka, but then my sources are known to be less than perfect 
Hmm... I think I am going to go for SR Pokemon, 2000.
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BobandEna
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 8:02:39 PM
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Anne,
If you are saying SR Pokemen 2000(Peleng - Primanka)
Then you are correct well done.
I picked this out for two reason's. the first it shows the differance between Arabians at home and in a field, to the one's we see all dolled up at shows.
And secondley, to all those who say Arabians are bad, I think this say's "you are talking rubbish."
Regards
Bob
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Jingo
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 8:55:12 PM
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Wow, I am just so thrilled - it was a toss up between SR Prostsjanie or Pokemen.
Quite agree Bob - you SHOULD ALWAYS LOOK AT THE HORSE AT HOME IN NATURAL SURROUNDING IF YOU ARE THINKING OF BUYING/BREEDING ETC.
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Anfi
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 9:08:55 PM
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Bob, have you noticed that in the picture with pokemon, peleng and primanka, he has a white sock on the right leg. In the picture where pokemon is alone, the socks are on his left legs. That confused me somewhat
If that was on purpose, it was a puzzle with a twist, eh
I loved the 'natural photo' idea, though
More of those, please
Anne
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Mike
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 9:24:43 PM
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OK Anne! and very well done!! Here is another one taken "au naturel" sorry its a bit fuzzy but it's from a 13 year old analogue video.
Who is the SE mare in the centre, she is a fairly close relative of a stallion leased to the UK last year, and what is the connection between the foal and the stallion?
Mike
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BobandEna
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 9:53:53 PM
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I am so pleased you enjoyed that one ladies. just to end with here are some more to complete the set, Anne I think you can see from these that one of these pictures is indeed not Pokemon, as you pointed out the sock markings are wrong, well spotted.
Now we need to find out witch one???????
Are we looking at two diferent foals here??
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Altinnal
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Posted - 22 Aug 2005 : 10:20:57 AM
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I think that several photos have been transposed.
In the photo of Peleng alone the muzzle white runs from o/s nostril down to n/s lip & the sock is on the n/s fore. In the last group photo these features are on the opposite side.
In the photo of Primanka alone (signed & dated 87?), her blaze 'blob' is by the n/s eye. This matches the view in the last group photo.
I suspect that is how the foal socks have been swapped from n/s to o/s.
If we know correct views of the parents, then we would know that of the foal.
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Anfi
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Posted - 22 Aug 2005 : 10:40:28 AM
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Hi Bob,
The reason I opted for SR Pokemon, even if the markings were not the same, was that if one of the pictures at some point had been mirrored, the markings were suddenly on the other leg!
This is the photo you posted (markings on right leg)
This is the same, only mirrored (markings on left leg)
So, the last two foals could be the same, even if their markings are on opposite legs. The marking on the hind leg looks as if it could be the same. Whether that foal is SR Pokemon? Well, I'm not sure - the hind leg marking looks a bit different from the one on his 'grown up' picture, but the angle is not quite right for seeing it, so I guess we cannot be sure.
What do you guys think?
Mike, can you tell us a bit more about this stallion that was leased last year Was he SE? (I guess so), is he old/ young, famous, of special bloodlines, etc?
I don't ask for much do I?
Anne
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Mike
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Posted - 22 Aug 2005 : 1:15:08 PM
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Hi Anne,
He's SE, young and has been shown successfully in Europe this year (including Res Ch at Wels). He's also a grey. The person who leased him had previously leased two other older SE stallions, a chestnut and a grey, one bred in Germany, the other in the USA.
Mike
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