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silv
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 Posted - 08 Jul 2004 : 3:23:08 PM
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Taz has again done his tendon in!
When recovered,what would be best support on his legs?
I know you get tendon boots but although they are hard and tough on the outsides,they dont fully support like a bandage would,and really I feel support is needed more than protection from the outside,when the damage is really being done from the inside(ie-the leg itself).
If this makes sense,I would value your opinions and experiences.
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zoew37
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 : 4:13:36 PM
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Hi Silv, all my horses have Sport Medicine boots, for everything they do. They are around £75 for a pair. I think they are just fab, they give a good amount of suport and they wash up great as well. I use them all the time at the moment as the ground up here is just rock hard. I also know that Kieffer now do a wrap boot with tendon support inserts. They are around the £55, but they look good when i saw them.
Just as an after, i use Equine America Equi-Lin on all the horses after they have been worked. It is a wash that you can use almost neat or dilute it if you are using it as a wash. It helps to sooth muscles after strenous exercise. I use it on legs as well, as it it supposed to tighten tendons etc. It is about £35 for i think 3L, but it is one of the few products that actually does what it says, (also good for removing sweat marks) |
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kath
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 : 9:34:40 PM
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Hey Silv
I sympathise - my boy has done it twice! As Zoe says Sports Medecine are good; Weatherbeeta and Kieffer and Equilibrium also do boots along the same idea (with a sesamoid strap) for about half the price. I usually bandage though, as these are cheaper! I just put on stable/polo bandages, with no gamgee, and put them on so that they support the sesamoid ligament by wrapping them around under the fetlock.
What sort of treatment is he on? Whilst 'bute is ok for the first few days, after that you really need to encourage the inflammatory cells, as they won't do damage after the acute phase and will bring nutrients etc to the damaged area. I have used a brilliant supplement made by Hi-Form (Aus) called Proflam - its expensive but it really does work, my boy was on the point of being retired before using itt, and 9 months on has just been to his first show in over 2 years and (touch wood) has never had any more problems. Their address is www.hiform.co.uk, or the girl i got in touch with is Lisa Onions - email is lisa@hiform.co.uk.
Good luck, hope its not too serious!
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Katie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jul 2004 : 09:45:57 AM
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I would also be intersted to know the best form of support. My mare has been on 10 weeks box rest and on Monday was given the green light to walk out in hand twice a day for a week, then to be ridden at a walk, then, all being well, she can be turned out!! YIPEEEEEEE!
I really dont want it to happen again.
My vet said that she had damaged the deep digital tendon(?)(sorry if that is the wrong name, it is the big one deep inside) and she said it was probably caused by a knock rolling in the stable, but I still want to be safe.
Does anyone use stable bandages at night?
She will always have a thickening of her tendon but as she isn't a show horse I am just happy that she will be sound agasin!!! |
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silv
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jul 2004 : 1:11:00 PM
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Thanks for your replies
Taz at the moment just has the swollen tendon sheath and is still allowed turn out......though no arab antics permitted
The vet is scanning next week if not gone down.He has mentioned some sort of injection into the sheath in the leg to help break down something or other(he is foreign and I dont always understand all the words!!)becuase taz has done this before he mentione a build up of something connecting onto other bits of tendon.
Has anybody had these injections and with what results?
Some of you may know that Taz also has a bit of a clumsy/tripping problem too(not wobblers though).This is actually how he did his leg this time,just stumbled while ridden.
I am actually thinking of possible retirement....not that he does more than 3 times hacking a week!
I just really want to keep him from worse future probs.
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kath
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Posted - 11 Jul 2004 : 11:53:32 AM
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Silv
I wouldn't bother with the injections if i were you. Its probably Adequan, which is an injection of joint/tendon material and is supposed to aid healing, but it is v expensive and makes no difference - but vets love it, espeically if its on insurance! All the injections given to aid tendon healing are not worth it, they have been shown to make v little difference to the prognosis.
Sorry to hear that you're thinking of retiring Taz. As i said before i was at the same stage with myh orse, Flash, this time last year; however, we've just been to our first two shows for over two year this and lst weekend, getting 2 1sts and 2 2nds! So don't give up hope, i'm sure he'll come right! Do get in touch with Lisa, she may be able to help. The proflam has made all the difference to Flash, and should help prevent future probs. Also, support boots as you mentioned before would be a good idea. What about corrective shoeing if he stumbles? Maybe speak to your farrier and see if he can help?
Good luck - these things are sent to try us!
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silv
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Posted - 11 Jul 2004 : 8:05:20 PM
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Kath,
Thanks for that bit of hope
I cant find prices on that site but will mail Lisa.Thanks.
Its a bit worrying that Taz only lasted a year since his last bout of tendon trouble.
I have discussed his stumbling with my farrier...who is VERY good,and we have rolled toe shoes which help a little.
Thanks for advice on injections too.
Also,glad that Flash is doing well |
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kath
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 2:51:05 PM
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What was it that Taz did last year? Flash was only back in work for 6 weeks after recovery from his suspensory ligament trouble before he did his superficial digital flexor, so its not just you!
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silv
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 4:48:10 PM
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Kath,
Deep flexor last year I think.
That email for Lisa is not a valid addy,can you please check it for me.
Thanks
I am having a scan in the morning,will let you know the result. |
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Dick
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 6:07:02 PM
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| In regard to the treatment of injured tendons: Here in our area (huge concentration of performance horses principally QH cutters and reiners) equine sports medicine is quite advanced and the vets specializing in leg injuries are using ultra shock therapy on tendons. We've had two horses treated. It induces the healing process much like pin firing without the risks of infections, and scaring. The horses are back in training following the use of ultra shock therapy. |
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JaneB
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 9:13:41 PM
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Hello,
I know someone who has this machine type thing from Russia which is supposed to be very good for tendon injuries. He is a holistic vet, and apparently it is being used on some races horses now with good success, or so I have been told. I have had it on my hand and foudn it great!If u wld like me to pass on his contact details send me ur e mail.
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JaneB
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 9:14:43 PM
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| It's very small and not at all scarey to look at, almost like a mini massage thing |
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silv
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 9:16:24 PM
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That sounds very interesting,can you tell me what is actually done and how.
I will mention it to my vet and see if he knows much about it.
Maybe its not happening in the UK yet??
Is it a long term good result,do you know?
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JaneB
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 9:29:48 PM
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| I'm not really sure, I'm prob best passing on his details to u and he can explain. It's something to do with ur healing process and it helps it, I know I sound vague but I can't remember what he said! I think it is meant to be long term, it has been long term for me and my wrist really gets worked doing the job that I do and it has held up great! He puts it on the bits that need it, he can tell where u need it coz u tell him where u r sore and the machine measures where u need it. When he hits the spot it beeps and u feel this amazing soothing *****ling sensation that lasts for a few seconds and then it goes and it does anther bleep. He is measuring u all the time and ur response to it all the time, and when you don't need it there anymore he moves it to another place. Am not sure how much ur vet will like it, depends on the vet as it is an alternative to drugs if u know what I mean. If u post ur e mail I'll send u his and u cld ask him. I think it is happening in certain circles in the UK, I think it's great! |
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silv
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 10:11:12 PM
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Jane......sorry our posts must have crossed,my aking how its done was in response to Dick's ultra shock therapy!LOL!
What you say sounds very interesting too....though may not mention to vet
I would love contact details,my email is silv@tazz22k.freeserve.co.uk
Thanks. xx |
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JaneB
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 10:36:20 PM
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Have sent u contact details, can u let me know u have them? Makes sense now u were asking as Dick is in the USA, I got confused as the machine thing is Russian!
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kirsty
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 : 11:28:53 PM
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Hi there
Not sure where you live, but is there an equine spa near you as they have had good results treating tendon injuries in spas (cold water therapy) If you are insured often insurance companies will pay for this treatment
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kath
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silv
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Posted - 13 Jul 2004 : 5:10:27 PM
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Jane....Got them,thanks,have mailed you back.
Taz had scan today....its only the protective tendon sheath which is inflamed(sp)though there is a black area on tendon,probably from last year.He had some fluid drained off,and a cortizone equivalent injection(new stuff that Newmarket are recommending).
He also had 3 biopsies off his mysterious lumps done!
1 week box rest,then turn out and in-hand walking for 2 weeks,then gentle ridden!
He apparently doesnt need leg protection,just his normal brushing/knee boots,though I think I will get some sport boots and seperate knee boots,just to help support a bit. |
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