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Zan
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Scotland
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 Posted - 16 Feb 2009 : 6:49:20 PM
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| I agree with Karon---I'm afraid I would have no faith in a vet who would do a dex suppression test on a horse with laminitis. I actually wouldn't let a vet do it to any horse in case it caused laminitis. The steroid injection may well be why you are seeing no improvement. Speak to the Laminitis Trust on their helpline---they are the experts---then find another vet. Sorry to sound harsh, but I don't think this vet can help your horse. |
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Delyth
Gold Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Feb 2009 : 6:54:40 PM
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Have a look at this site - literally miracle workers ! Turned my mare around last year and she is now riding normally and having a great life. Not sure where you are but the vets I used was Pool House Equine Clinic at Fradley, Nr Litchfield. The vet who dealt with her was Richard Stevenson and he was brilliant. Very positive when ther vets were all doom and gloom and bills !!
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lyanabint
New Member
England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2009 : 3:58:34 PM
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| Hi there, my internet been down frustratingly so logged on from work at the mo. I have contacted Roger and he has sent me the L94 and Blood powder which I will start on her immediately followed by the P45. He was so very helpful and i will keep you posted. Just have finger, toes crossed. |
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ebony
New Member
England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2009 : 7:44:13 PM
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I so sympathise with you on finding your mare has laminitis. I lost my mare on November 14th 08, she had been fine all summer, was not fat, then bang she went in October...i was devasted..sadly there is no safe time for horses anymore an i am hearing all the time of horses coming down with this at any time of the year. There really is no cure for this disease, an once had, just keeps re-occuring. I have tried everthing, plastic shoes,pergaloide, in the end i just tried with the ACP, Bute that is an even better vasculator, deep bed..an watch like a hawk....Sadly, I lost, the only words that i console my self with are "I Tried" an when us mere humans take these wonderful animals on, "we have to play GOd"..they cannot talk to us, tell us of their pain...we have to make a judgement...an sometimes its the most painful decision in the world....I still feel pain for a mare i was so privaldged to have owned....but I know in the end, I did the right thing, she is no longer in pain....that is my consulation....I wish you well with your mare x |
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lyanabint
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England
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Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 2:27:55 PM
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| Dear Ebony, goodness I am so sorry to hear about your marem and I know what you say is right. I will not let her suffer beyond what is needed. I know she is in pain now, despite the 2x Danillon per day. What hurts my heart the most is that she loves to run, typical arab, always bucking and spooking at anything that moves, and so incredibly loyal and intelligent. She is the first horse I have ever owned and we rescued her from a dealer anyway, where she had horrendous mud fever and rainscald. Since then she has had 10 years in a lovely home. I owe it to her to make the right decision in the end and while I still have hope I also am a realist. Thank you for your post. Will keep in touch x |
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ebony
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England
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Posted - 21 Feb 2009 : 01:16:05 AM
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I ran my own stud for twenty years, an have felt that with laminitus it definatly derives from a metabolic inbalance, an also is a genetic problem.I am not saying that stress etc cannot ignite this problem, but you can look back on a pedigree an if there was any sign of Laminitus i would never breed or buy. As for useing Steroids...thats a def no no,firstly that will ingnite laminitis,an secondly put the horse or pony into unbelievable pain as this effects the metabolism instantly. the pressure inside those feet per inch is incredible, even with rotation, or sinking of the bone, I feel only a farrier can help along side the xrays...an the other most important thing is to get the feet vasculating....My mare had it in all four feet, an lost co-ordination of her back legs...again pointing to the metabolism going hay wire. Laminitus has been with me for 40 years an although we have made progress, this terrible disease still confounds Vets of top ranking,,,it is such a grey area....they used to say only fat ponies got this...now you can see a horse that is skinny an still come down with acute laminitus.....answers of A4 paper please....you think you know, then your back to square one |
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Kazzy
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 21 Feb 2009 : 4:33:15 PM
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Ebony you are so right. Every month is a lamitis month as I call it now, its not just little fat ponies that get laminitis its horses aswell and horses suffer the most with it because they are not designed to have it!!
I lost my mare 2 years ago to this awful illness and I tried everything and anything, she had it for over 11 years and I was constantly watching her every move, once they have had it it can re occur anytime and unfortunately it does end up killing them!!
Research has moved on amazingly and there are things you can do to make them more comfortable and enjoy life again and I also beleive
it can be genetic, my mare was a grnaddaughter of kazra and she suffered it and also a few others very closely related to my mare have suffered it aswell.
I bred only one foal out of her that I have to this day who will be 14 this April and I do everything in my power to stop him getting
this awful Laminitis, to the point were I bore people silly with it,
but some people are still of the thinking that horses dont get Laminitis, HOW WRONG!!!!!!!!!! Infact when my lovely vet who tried everything and also my farrier had come to the end of the road he turned to me and said "Laminitis is now the biggest killer in horses"
He said it used to be colic but its not anymore.
Please people be aware of this dreadful illness because there is no comeback from it, it is uncurable and try everything in your power to
stop your horse getting it.
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radfan
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Posted - 07 Mar 2009 : 08:12:24 AM
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Lyana Bint Radfan (lyanabint username is my mum)
At 2.20pm on Friday the 6 March we lost our lovely chestnut Arab mare. Xrays taken on Thursday 5 March showed further rotation and all that was preventing the pedal bones from coming through her soles (on both fronts) were the imprint shoes she wore. Farrier and vet came out and both agreed that due to the severity of it and the pain she was in that it was kindest to put her out of her suffering. We still did not know the underlying cause but whatever it was was attacking her fast and hard. She stood for 5 hours in exactly the same position yesterday with her head facing the wall (she turned her back on life) - it was time and her message to me was clear. The act was very peaceful & calm, she laid down and went to sleep. I am honored to have been part of her life for nine years and now she is pain free again. RIP Lyana Bint Radfan, my beautiful Arab mare 28.01.94 - 06.03.09
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jillandlomond
Platinum Member
Scotland
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Posted - 07 Mar 2009 : 09:34:44 AM
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Thinking of you at this sad time....
RIP Lyana Bint Radfan
Laminitis is such a horrible painful illness.....you've definately done her a favour having her PTS. |
    
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radfan
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Posted - 07 Mar 2009 : 12:21:06 PM
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| Thank you for such kind words jillandlomond, and thank you for everybodies support, tips and kindness over the past months. It is lovely to know there are people out there thinking of you. x |
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cmj
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France
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 : 10:48:09 AM
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| Oh, how very sad. I am so sorry for your loss. You did the right thing but I know how it rips your heart out. |
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Kazzy
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 : 10:55:04 AM
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How sad and I am terribly sorry for your loss.
Laminitis is a horrible thing.
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Karon
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 : 11:21:36 AM
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How sad  I'm so sorry for your loss, it's 18 months since I was last in the same position and know how difficult it is.
RIP Lyana bint Radfan. xx |
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saddlebred
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 : 12:05:18 PM
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| I am so so sorry to hear this. Thinking of you at this sad time. RIP little one. |
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garnet
Platinum Member
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 : 12:12:29 PM
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I am so sorry for all of you who have lost your horses to this disease. Lynabint and Radfan - I know you are devastated but please be comforted by the fact that she had 10 wonderful years with you which she would not have had otherwise and you tried everything you could for her and she no longer in pain and running free.
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Minty Arab
Silver Member
England
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 : 3:05:01 PM
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im so sorryRIP layana bint radfan,very sad
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Pasha
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 : 3:56:28 PM
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| RIP Layana Bint Radfan xx It is so very very sad but please remember you did all that you could do for her xx |
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radfan
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 : 5:55:52 PM
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Thank you all so much for your thoughts & kind words! Lyanabint & radfan
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mogwai
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England
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lyanabint
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England
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Posted - 13 Mar 2009 : 7:28:07 PM
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| Thank you all so much for your kind thoughts and sympathy. It has been 1 week today and the hurt of her passing is still so raw. Our lovely Chestnut Arabian Mare, Lyana Bint Radfan |
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Maramoo
Silver Member
England
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 : 11:33:06 AM
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| RIP Lyana Bint Radfan. Just so sad - I lost my beautiful Crackerjack to this terrible disease. Take comfort in the fact she is at peace now. |
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pintoarabian
Gold Member
Scotland
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 : 12:20:24 PM
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| So terribly sorry to hear your sad news. You did all you could to save her. Console yourself with that and remember your good times together. All of our efforts are going into saving our own filly at the moment. Her laminitis was caused by toxins being released from a bacterial gut infection. It was so bad the vet feared her pedal bone was going to come through the sole or the outer wall was going to separate completely. At its worst, the sole was spongy and serum was leaking out. These were very dark days but after months of intensive treatment, so far, so good, we can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Both the vet and the remedial farrier were out yesterday and were delighted with her progress since their last visit a month ago. They are still talking of a full recovery and we feel so lucky because we came so close to having to make the hard decision you had to make. She has youth on her side though and new, healthy hoof is growing at a very quick rate. This experience has totally opened our eyes to the severity of laminitis as our previous experience was limited to Cushings induced laminitis in an elderly horse. |
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Montikka
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 : 11:13:37 PM
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RIP Lyana Bint Radfan - so very sad; we had to PTS our little chestnut boy who had Cushings/Laminitis it's heart breaking.
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radfan
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 6:11:33 PM
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Thank you all. PIntoarabian - you horses on your pics are stunning. Yes, Laminitus is awful awful awful and my heart goes out to those who's horses are battling or suffering it at present. I really feel for all those who have had to have loved ones PTS.
Clare xxx
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