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herts_babeuk
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 Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 3:48:38 PM
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where can i find detail and pictures of the actual differences between the arab lines?
i.e. difference between crabbett to polish to french to egyptian?
thanks
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pat ww
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Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 10:46:04 PM
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I think you will be lucky to find anyone who has put this down definitively in words.
People who have been around them a long time can usually pick them out, as they know the bloodlines and what they go on to produce and the traits that come through generation after generation, often due to some careful inbreeding / linebreeding to re-inforce the characterisitics they find desirable.
You get generalisations, Crabbet solid riding horses, can be plain, but I remember Stardom as being exquisitely pretty, correct and like a fairy tale horse. And not as 'quiet' as most Crabbets are thought to be.
Egyptian, pretty, some say can have long cannons, but my SE has very short ones!
Polish, 'can be on the small side', my 3/4 Polish are is, barely 14.1 when shes standing up proud! But a pure Polish colt I viewed was already 15.2. Russian movement....Spanish eyes.....
I would be interested if you find a more definitive guide, |
Edited by - pat ww on 18 Dec 2008 10:46:30 PM |
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trinity
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Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 11:55:39 PM
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| Perhaps this is a question for Gari (Egbert), she may be one of the few that can be slightly more definitive. It would be great if someone could. |
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angelarab
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Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 12:17:51 PM
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i asked about this a while back and would be keen to learn about things too  |
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Bex
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herts_babeuk
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ashabarab
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England
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Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 6:03:25 PM
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if you put up there names l expect someone on here will be able to tell you
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herts_babeuk
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ashabarab
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pat ww
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Posted - 20 Dec 2008 : 10:25:03 PM
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The generalisation on French bred is not particularly Arabian looking, as bred for speed not type.
Of course all generalisations have exceptions! |
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Deboniks
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herts_babeuk
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Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 5:04:16 PM
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hi - thanks for your help
i have already looked up my horse's breeds on the all breeds website but it doesnt tell me what bloodline they are from - i.e. ross estara
also, thank you deboniks but the website doesnt show pictures of the actual differences which is was i am reallt after - thank you anyhow |
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ashabarab
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Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 8:49:20 PM
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most of the different types have there own following and there are websites devoted to them
the straight egyptians have one as do the crabbet organization l know there is a polish one too
l think it's more a matter of searching and educating your eye, decieding what you like then reading up about it
ross estara is a bit of a mix...with egyptian, spanish [golden cross]
polish, more egyptian domestic american with a touch of babson eqyptian...and then a bit more polish [at a glance]
good luck
ash
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MinHe
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Posted - 01 Jan 2009 : 9:36:09 PM
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As all bloodlines conform to the Arab standard, it is very difficult to describe the subtle differences between them (and there are sub-types even within the major bloodline groups - eg, Babson Egyptians are very different from high-Nazeer line Egyptians...). Likewise, because photos are so often taken in such a way (especially modern ones) to create a 'standardised' look, just browsing them is not terribly helpful if you don't already know what you are looking for!
By far the best way to get an understanding of how each set of bloodlines differ from each other is to see as many horses in the flesh as you can - then you get to look at them from all angles and see how they are really put together, which of course you can't do with photos (yet!). Often you may get the chance to see several horses from the same group together, and that shows what particular characteristics are common to those lines. It is also of course great fun as well as being entertaining (and a wonderful way to find out more about the breed generally and also to make new friends!).
I'm sorry if this doesn't really answer your question, but honestly, one live horse is worth a hundred photos in teaching you to develop an 'eye' for a bloodline.
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Bev Parker
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Posted - 09 Jan 2009 : 6:01:18 PM
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| I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds this baffling! I have a half brother to Estara (Ross Marrakech out of Roseeta and by Om El Azadik) as well as a sort of cousin I suppose (Mustique Moniet who is out of another of Rosseeta's daughters Ross Moniet and by Ffatal Attraction). Given how close their breeding is, physically they are quite different! Both Ffatal and Om El Azadik are by Sanadik El Shaklan. I think Ash's description of the breeding is pretty accurate - a mixture of different strains. Presumably that's why they are quite different. Both are real athletes though! |
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Athena
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Posted - 09 Jan 2009 : 9:30:03 PM
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Interesting thread! The thing with Arabians of mixed bloodlines is that they can be showing any of them i.e. they could look like any of them or a blend. You would have to know something about the bloodlines already to recognise if a mixed bloodline Arabian is favouring its Spanish, Egyptian, Crabbet or Polish elements or a mix. It is no surprise that full siblings in this category can look wildly different. To get a feel for what the different bloodline groups tend to produce, you would have to look at "Straight" bred individuals initially - even then, different families within bloodline groups can have very distinctive looks of their own.
I agree that you really have to go look at living horses. There is no real short cut to finding out which bloodline group is your thing.
Personally I find that there are superstars of every bloodline - it is the geldings that really define the group. Line up a group of geldings/not quite superstars by bloodline group and see which group you'd like to take home! For me its those Crabbet boys every time but it is very personal. All depends on your priorities. |
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tamila
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Posted - 11 Jan 2009 : 07:17:20 AM
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| This is such a diverse subject but I have a full-brother and sister. The sister takes after her Crabbet bloodlines and the brother is very Polish looking although they are 86% Crabbet, large amount of OE and the rest Polish through Argos. |
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