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alison
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 Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 2:21:36 PM
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Hi, I don't know a lot about Arab racing - but suddenly wondered if they have to be re-trained like Thoroughbreds ie Sarah's Sert ?
Also what age to they start racing ? when do they retire? is it just flat racing or over jumps as well.
Thanks
Ali
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Edited by - pat day on 26 Sep 2008 09:23:25 AM
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emmalouise
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 2:25:44 PM
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My boy Ernie came out of racing last year and has got on just fine with my routine of hacking,hacking and more hacking. No real issues (apart from still loves gallopies in wide open spaces!). He just turned thirteen.
are you thinking of getting an ex racer then? |
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alison
Platinum Member
Wales
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 2:29:48 PM
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Hi Emmalouise,
Thanks for the reply, no not looking to buy but currently writing a childrens book which features an Arab ex racer and just wanted some more background.
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sammyd0380
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England
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 2:39:08 PM
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Hi Ali,
Most ex racing arabs go on to do another job (or several!!). They probably take less time than a TB to 'retrain'.
They can start racing at 3, and I think the oldest one to race was 18!(although usually you see them on the track up to 12 or 13).
There is just flat racing in the UK, however, the Swedish also race them over jumps.
Hope this helps!
Edited - rubbish spelling!
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alison
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Wales
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Dot
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England
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 3:31:11 PM
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| I would say like all things it varies with the horses temperament, ie how competitive they are etc. I have had both ex TB and Arab race horses. |
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BOULTONS
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 4:40:01 PM
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| Oldest one to win a race was actually 19 and is in the Guinness Book of records. His name is Al Jabal. I do not know about re-train to do a job - many compete successfully in endurance at the same time as they are racing and Drongo regularly won affiliated show jumping and Hunter Trials in the same week as he raced. |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 6:40:26 PM
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| My boy finished racting at 14 and is still hacking at 29......... |
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alison
Platinum Member
Wales
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 6:40:44 PM
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Hi Boultons very interesting to know that an Arab horse of 19 was still racing - is this very uncommon and great to know at that age he got into the Guinness Book of Records - does Al Jabal still hold this record? and what age would a thoroughbred race up to.
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sarah_and_sert
Silver Member
Wales
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 7:45:32 PM
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| With Sert he only raced the one race, and hes been really good. Hes not really done anything since his last owner bought him from the arab sales at ascot. Think he was a bit too forward for her but ive found the more work he does the better he is. he likes to be doing something all the time, his mind seems to get bored otherwise. He can be a bit strong sometimes but when i took him to the beach on a fun ride he came back to me easier than my other boy. when we school he tends to stick his head but weve been working on contact and bend and hes picking things up super quick. Bit too smart for his own good sometimes thought lol |
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egzotyka
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England
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 7:46:33 PM
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| Mahboobti i know had a successful race carrer and then went on to be shown under saddle successfully last year... |
   
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s.jade
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 10:10:06 AM
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My girl is hopefully going racing next year, I have backed and shcooled her traditionally for 2 years and she has been shown under saddle locally too, so has all the basics and schooling before she starts the bit she'll love 
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krb
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England
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 9:40:45 PM
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Hi Ali,
As a youngster I had an arab when he was just three and rode him as a normal horse, ie pony club camp/rallies, hunter trials, ODE's and local shows. Then we did some BHS eventing. When he was 12 I decided to have a go at Arab racing. He proved to have a bit of talent in that area and we did quite well. He retired at 14 and we resumed the other activities...in fact, he still team chased in the winter between racing seasons. He continued to do reasonably well at dressage, showjumping and team chasing well into his twenties.
Good luck with the book, it sounds interesting. |
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Lin123
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England
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 10:08:09 PM
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Ali, Kim (krb) is being very modest in her description of "her boy".
Do a search on "Carabineer" and you will see there was a much bigger story to tell about this ex-racer
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sammyd0380
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Moosie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 10:45:55 PM
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echo the above re Carabineer - massive massive superstar
and on a much smaller note all my arabs have raced and done other stuff at the same time, no need for re-training, they have gone into the appropriate "mode"(with varying degrees of success )as and when required. my now retired gelding always did a much better dressage test the week after a race - much more impulsion (he was rather lazy except when racing)!! my present mare did dressage, although only at prelim level, last winter and actually won the novice horse points trophy at my local affil riding club - have neglected the dressage during the racing season but thats my fault not hers, she also jumps and does low level endurance between races. Def believe its all to do with this "mode|" thing!!!! |
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bielby
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katefox1812
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 4:26:25 PM
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I read somewhere that the oldest TB to win a race was 18 years old. Not totally sure about this, though.
Carabineer was amazing! |
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alison
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Wales
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 5:53:38 PM
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This topic is getting very interesting -keep the stories coming. It's great to be able to share all these experiences and praise our lovely and talented horses.
Cheers
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BOULTONS
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 8:23:36 PM
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| Yes, oldest TB was 18. Oldest Arab was Al Jabal at 19. Agree with the mode thing - Arabs have definitely shown this. Anne Unwin's Imman was another who competed both in Arab Racing and Eventing at a high level. |
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Sundance
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England
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 8:40:58 PM
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Yes Caribineer was a superstar, an amazing race horse and more besides, testament that these wonderful horses can turn their hoof to anything. I think the incredible Shomran didn't start racing till he was 12, and also Amer was about 12 when he made his UK racing debut.
Depends on the horse but many of them can re-train to do other pursuits and many horses can adapt depending on the way they are trained, many trainers incorporate hacking into their racing conditioning which helps keep their minds fresh and balanced.
My now retired foundation mare Aliesha was purchased as an unbroken 8 yr old, she raced from 9-10 and was placed a couple of times, then had a 2 foals before coming back into work and winning a hunter trial and competing in show jumping and even once an in hand show.
Al Jabal loved his racing right into his teens and my friend used to train Imman and she said he was the perfect gent to train and ride, and I think he did pre novice eventing too.
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bielby
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triple velvet
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 09:26:59 AM
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Sorry to hi-jack this thread but I would love to know more about Arab racing. What do you look for in a racing arab? What "type" of arab better or used in racing. The reason I ask is I have a filly who I believe has racers in her genes and when she is in the paddock she is fast and very powerful. I have had several comments now about racing her.
She's only 16months old. I don't know how big she is going to grow (her bum is high and 14hh at present)
Is there a height for racehorses?
My filly is mainly crabbet on damn side not sure what %crabbet she is. Shimmering bint shakira is her registered name.
Any info would be gratful. Thanks for reading
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Moosie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 8:02:15 PM
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| Janet as this topics has been moved some people wont have seen it yet and when they do Im sure they will be happy to offer some thoughtsIn the meantime theres no height restriction and everyone looks for different things. Most racing arabs are purpose bred these days but with the handicap system there are races for all abilities. A couple of(IMO) important things to look for are a sound tough horse, decent workmanlike conformation and the horse needs to be a bit competitive and enjoy work. |
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