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pat ww
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Posted - 08 Mar 2008 :  1:03:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add pat ww to your friends list Send pat ww a Private Message
I have just been mooching round on allbreeds looking up Shaikh al Kuran, leading sire at Malvern for about 4 consecutive years. I had always understood him to be 'straight' Egyptian, but a report flashed up that he is 29.29xxxxxx % Crabbet.

just curious, as he is the grandsire of one of mine, as to which lines are Crabbet and are these also 'straight' Egyptian.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/shaikh+al+kuran
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ginger horse
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Posted - 08 Mar 2008 :  3:42:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ginger horse to your friends list Send ginger horse a Private Message
if you go down the RSI RARA DELSOL side you will see BINT RISSALA 1920 she was crabbet
ASTRALED 1900 crabbet


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Edited by - ginger horse on 08 Mar 2008 3:47:34 PM
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 09 Mar 2008 :  12:19:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Can anyone show us a picture of Shaikh Al Kuran (Shaikh Al Badi x Karimda)please, must be one some where as he has been the leading sire in the UK for the years 2000, 2001 and 2002.
and not forgetting Morafic, Nazeer & Kazmeen.

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 09 Mar 2008 12:54:18 PM
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Athena
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Posted - 10 Mar 2008 :  1:44:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Athena to your friends list Send Athena a Private Message
Hi there,

Having a Crabbet percentage does not make a horse not Straight Egyptian. Some of the foundation stock of current Egyptian breeding went back to Egypt from Crabbet or from Lady Anne Blunt's Egyptian base of breeding at Sheykh Obeyd. Most modern Egyptian Arabians have a Crabbet percentage of some 20-30%, technically speaking. Of course all the lines were bred, and descendants selected, according to the criteria of the Egyptian programmes.

Equally modern Crabbet horses trace in approximately 50% of their blood to the Blunt's purchases from Ali Pasha Sherif in Egypt - so they are technically some 50% Egyptian!

There are very few Arabian bloodline groups that do not have at least some, if not significant amounts, of Crabbet blood - and of course that means they will have some Egyptian component too. Alexia
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