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Rozy Rider
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 Posted - 04 Nov 2007 : 11:11:43 PM
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Listed a few mares from the 1960's all bred at least one Palomin if anyone can help with there breeding lines, they or there offspring(s) are listed in the Part Bred Arab Register Vol. X. see the list below.
NOW SORTED thanks to Bia...Anyone help complete the breeding of this pure bred Stallion from around the 1960'ies please. (sire of GOLDEN IMPALA).
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Edited by - Rozy Rider on 05 Nov 2007 7:47:52 PM
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Barabia
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 2:43:14 PM
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Great job done Bia, thanks very much.
Any chance you could look at another Pure Bred Arab for me, from around the 1960'ies please, He's MAGIC GLITTER Vol. XI. and the sire of HARDWICKE DAWN, another Palomino.
Also got a ?? with CAPPAGH GOLD and SIVER (1962) a Part Bred in Vol X or V, who's sire is ANZAR 1947 I think I've got the right one, can you help me here, are their more ANZAR's around that year to be able to sire C. Gold & Silver. Thanks a lot... Sue |
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Melynda
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 5:14:47 PM
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Not sure if you are interested in this but the Wernlas prefix have got a lot of ponies registered in the Welsh Stud Book. Haven't found a Golden Seal registered before and including 1964 so she might be registered in one of the later books. They seemed to have registered quite a few names according to the year ie. 1961 B, 1962 C, 1963 D, No E's, 1964 F. Haven't got the next stud books so can't check it.
Prefix was registered with Mr G. Davies, Wernlas, Penderyn, Aberdare, Mid Glam, CF44 0YJ.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 7:44:42 PM
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Hi Melynda, I've got lots of mares, all dams of Palomino's most from the 1960's and non of their breeding, I'm thinking of listing them incase anyone can get on the case, one had Coral in their line.here goes and if any one can offer any help with these mares that have produced Palomino's please do...Sue
Lily, dam of Hardwicke Dawn.
Rhama, dam of Graystones Lina.
Georgina, dam of Guilcagh Sovereign.
Goldie, ditto Goldies Glory.
Popsi, ditto Golden Acorn.
Honeysuckle, ditto Golden Fleur.
Wernlas Golden Seal, ditto Golden Impala.
Blaze, ditto Gellydraw Beauty.
Beauty, dam of Princess of Isaf(Palomino)s.Dwyfor Champion.PBAR.XI.
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Barabia
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 12:02:35 AM
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You're welcome Sue!
The new one is done, go have a look. It must be Anzar 1947 because the others was either to old.. or to young.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 09:28:29 AM
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Great Stuff Thanks a lot Bia. Sue
and Calling The person with PBAR Vol. V & VI & VII & VIII.
help wanted with the breeding of some of the above, mostly dams from the 1960 ies.....Thanks Sue |
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Lynda
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 5:06:04 PM
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Hi Sue
I'm on the case, but have to go about it in a roundabout way i.e finding the daughters, then hopefully finding their dams.
Found in Vol V1:
Georgina 1959 Bay By Nimran AHSB x Melanie 11
Honeysuckle 1953 Grey by Coed Coch Socyn x Honey Wing PBA Vol 1V:: Honey Wing 1946 dark grey/roan by Reynalton AHSB Vol V1 (Algol x Dafina) out of Woodlands Mollie (Welsh F.S. No. 247 Vol XXX11)
Honeysuckle 11 1958 Chestnut by Aldourie AHSB Vol V11 x Pimpernel.
Gappagh Gold and Silver 1962 Pal by Anzar AHSB Vol V11 out of Cocoa
Princess Honey 1965 Pal by Selim AHSB Vol 1X x Sandy.
Lily, dam of Hardwicke Dawn. Lily unregistered
Rhama, dam of Graystones Lina. Rhama (Welsh Cob)
Georgina, dam of Guilcagh Sovereign. Georgina unregistered
Goldie, ditto Goldies Glory. Goldie unregistered
Popsi, ditto Golden Acorn. Popsi unregistered
Honeysuckle, ditto Golden Fleur. Honeysuckle already mentioned
Wernlas Golden Seal, ditto Golden Impala. Wernlas golden seal-unregistered
Blaze, ditto Gellydraw Beauty. Blaze unregistered
Beauty, dam of Princess of Isaf(Palomino)s.Dwyfor Champion.PBAR.XI. Dwyfor Champion by Victory of Thebes AHSB Vol X x Llanarth Dorabell
Have you the sires of the offspring that you have mentioned?
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 5:48:02 PM
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| Brill Job Thanks Lynda, Yes, I think they are all with sires now listed on allbreeds for our Palomino fans & will update with your entries. Sue. |
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dormouse
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Posted - 07 Nov 2007 : 11:04:15 AM
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Llanarth Dorabell appears to be out of Cnwc-y-Bettws-Sarah (chestnut born in 1951) if you look at the links below. Second one I'm afraid the blurb is in german but the pedigree table at the bottom of the page still makes sense.
http://www.welshcobs.info/pages/dwyforsupersonic.htm
http://www.arvalon.de/Youngster/scooby.htm
Allbreeds has Cnwc-y-Bettws-Sarah as being by Churchill (b 1940) out of Shan. I can't find the information elsewhere so I don't know if anyone can check the information is correct.
Llanarth prefix is used by Mr L & Mrs M Bigley, Llanarth Stud, The Quakers Farm, Michaelchurch Escley, Herefordshire, HR2 0PT, UK. Website - http://www.llanarth.uk.com/
Tel: 01981 510667, Email: info@llanarth.uk.com
Hopefully they would be able to tell you what is correct.
Suzy
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Lynda
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Posted - 07 Nov 2007 : 11:17:46 AM
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| Have just updated the pedigree for Marlbrook Golden Sarisaam. Len Bigley is a charming man, and should you contact him, I'm sure he will help. |
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saddlebred
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Posted - 08 Nov 2007 : 06:26:49 AM
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Hi Sue
My palomino (Fayrelands Hawaiian Dawn) has a palomino "Honeysuckle" in her pedigree. Dont know if it is the same one.
This Honeysuckle was palomino and was the dam of Fayrelands Hawaiian Lady presumably bred by Carol Banks.
My Honeysuckle was by Ready Token Lucky Coin out of Priory Golden Babycham who were both BPS registered. She is on Allbreeds.
Hope it helps
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Melynda
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 : 11:26:57 AM
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Suzy,
Re: "Allbreeds has Cnwc-y-Bettws-Sarah as being by Churchill (b 1940) out of Shan. I can't find the information elsewhere so I don't know if anyone can check the information is correct. "
It's correct, according to Index of Welsh Stud Book (1957-1966) she is.
6504-FS, Cnwch Y Bettws Sarah, chestnut, 1951, Sec D, Breeder W. Roberts, by Churchill 1711 out of Shan (unregistered).
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