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Donna
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  2:31:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Donna to your friends list Send Donna a Private Message
Can someone please help me work out the crabbet percentage for this mare- Icess out of Silvern Sabbina & Kamarish, it is far to complicated for me

Thanks



Edited by - Donna on 16 Oct 2007 8:45:53 PM
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nikki
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  2:32:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
you need Bia Bia, Bia, where are you?

pagey
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Barabia
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  5:05:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi Donna, I'm on to it but might take some hours! I've filled in her pedigree so you can look at it now.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/icess

Thank you Nikki for recommending me!!

Bia

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nikki
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  5:24:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
No probs(boffin):-))-do you know i only got your e-mail today from about Majidah-naughty pooter!

Is everything sorted-and how is the beautiful girl? Be one awesome foal by Rusleem.

Bee and Kaz are getting fatter, you'd be most welcome to meet them when they hopefully arrive safely into the world.

pagey
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Donna
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  8:11:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Donna to your friends list Send Donna a Private Message
thank you so much Bia


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Barabia
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  10:00:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Originally posted by nikki

No probs(boffin):-))-do you know i only got your e-mail today from about Majidah-naughty pooter!

Is everything sorted-and how is the beautiful girl? Be one awesome foal by Rusleem.

Bee and Kaz are getting fatter, you'd be most welcome to meet them when they hopefully arrive safely into the world.


Such a naughty pooter!!! When did I send the e-mail? It must have been ages ago!!!

Majidah is doing a fantastic recovering (thank God) and she's still at the Stud and hopefully will be covered next year. Last week she was aloud to go out in a small paddock for grazing.. and showed David some of her lovely trot with the tail all over her back! He promised to take some pic's of her.. I'm waiting for them!!!

My fingers are x-ed for Bee & Kaz.. foaling safely! Would love to see them (and meet you) next year, when are they due?

Bia

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Barabia
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  10:36:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
My gosh Donna.. such a lovely pedigree your mare has!! I would like to see a picture of her! Is she chestnut (as Datasource say)??

She is 77,51% Crabbet, so you can take her to the Crabbet Show's (with a confirmed letter from Crabbet.org!!

Her sire is a 'mix' of English/Russian/Egyptian-lines (incl 55,43% Crabbet).. and several lines to the precious Courthouse breeding (1x ST SIMON & 2x RASHID).. WOOW! Her dam is 100% GSB incl 99,58% Crabbet.. with one line to the non-crabbet stallion Dwarka via Mikeno.

Sireline: Skowronek
Damline: Sobha
Strain: Hamdanieh Simrieh (SELMA I)

Bia



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Donna
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  10:53:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Donna to your friends list Send Donna a Private Message
Bia you are a star, thankyou so much

She is almost mine she arrives on Saturday I was really hoping she would be able to do the crabbet classes

Yipeeeee I am delighted


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Donna
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  10:55:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Donna to your friends list Send Donna a Private Message


this is her at the arab internationals as a youngster


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Lila
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  09:06:00 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message
Hi Donna and Bia and Nikki,
May I ad to this that her sire is DOUBLE NUHRA so she also has BAHRAINI blood!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So if you want a gorgeous foal why not breed her to one of Jennies stallions!!! And Also I have seen Pandaz quite often in Holland, he is lovely, wonder if he is still around.
Monique

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Donna
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  10:24:42 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Donna to your friends list Send Donna a Private Message
Wow this just gets better and better

Lila- Pandaz celebrated his 30 birthday last year and looked fantastic!

I am hoping to breed from her in the near future.


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Donna
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  10:28:27 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Donna to your friends list Send Donna a Private Message
forgot to say I am new to Al so who is jennie??


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nikki
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  10:40:50 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
I hadn't looked at the breeding-lovely-well done Donna, lots of pics when she arrives please, and welcome to al.
Jenny Lee's owns Pearl Island Arabians, which is the only stud outside of Bahraini, breeding pure Bahraini arabs(which is what Nuhra was) website is www.pearlislandarabians.co.uk

Bia-that is fab news, i am going up to see Dave and Rusleem again sometime this month. I might get lucky and have my picc taken with Rusleem. I was feeling their bellies last night, and could feel wiggles. Bee is due beginning of June, i think Kaz is due late July-haven't got the dates yet. I am positive that Kaz is going to be a wonderful first time mother.

pagey
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NatH
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  2:14:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NatH to your friends list Send NatH a Private Message
Hi Donna,

I know your mare Izzy, she used to be at my yard.

Do contact me, I would love to know how she's doing

Natalie
Chapel Lane Arabians
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Barabia
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Posted - 12 Oct 2007 :  6:34:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Donna, Icess looks fabulous.. please take some new pic's when you got her home!

I will point you to the most knowledge person regarding bloodlines, breeding.. analyzing everything in your horse etc. etc.
It's 'Egbert' in this thread:
http://www.arabianlines.com/forum1/topic_new.asp?TOPIC_ID=13253&whichpage=49&SearchTerms=strain

Please add the link to Allbreed (Icess pedigree) when (if) you ask the question there!


Nikki, yes I'm very, very happy that all was sorted out for Majidah. Can you please take some pic's for me too when you visit them.. on both Rusleem and Majidah??

Bia

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LadyB
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Posted - 15 Oct 2007 :  3:59:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LadyB to your friends list Send LadyB a Private Message
Hi Bia,

Louise here (again) stressing out as I am still trying to work out Kassies percentage.. (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/kastanah+bint+talurand) I think you have already worked it out for her - if so, could you let me know what it is as I am near giving up.. if you havent already dont worry - I will keep going...

Lou.x

Louise

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Barabia
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Posted - 15 Oct 2007 :  6:58:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi Lou.

Yes, I had it counted out before.. she's 82,74% Crabbet (82,739255 to be precise)! She's approx. 89,06% Old English & 10,94% mainly Polish with a dash of Russian.

The Non-crabbet lines in her pedigree is Dwarka x5, Borak x3, Maidan x2, Manak x1, Mootrub x1, Takritiyah x1, and almost all the Polish lines except one line trough the Russian Nabor (25%) grand-son to Naseem whom is 100% Crabbet.

Hope I got this correct explained, otherwise just ask!

Bia


Edited by - Barabia on 15 Oct 2007 7:02:15 PM
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Donna
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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 :  8:48:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Donna to your friends list Send Donna a Private Message



Still can't believe she is finally here- overweight and undermuscled but nothing that can't be fixed


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Lila
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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 :  8:53:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message
Wow she looks very nice, after a lot of TLC and training she will be stunning again.
Monique

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NatH
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 :  10:32:37 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NatH to your friends list Send NatH a Private Message
Ah Donna, it's good to see Izzy again.

Give her a big kiss from Aunty Nat

Natalie
Chapel Lane Arabians
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Donna
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 :  11:05:27 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Donna to your friends list Send Donna a Private Message
Originally posted by NatH

Ah Donna, it's good to see Izzy again.

Give her a big kiss from Aunty Nat


I will do


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LadyB
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 :  1:50:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LadyB to your friends list Send LadyB a Private Message
That is fantastic Bia, Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it!! Will def be writing off to the Crabbet Organisation to get my certificate.. Just out of interest, has anyone worked out Tobago's %??

Louise

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Barabia
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 :  4:28:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Woow Donna, such a nice girl.. Good Luck with her!


Louise, all my pleasure! I've checked Tobago to be 'roughly' 52,36% Crabbet. His pedigree was a tough match!

Bia

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Pixie
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  6:26:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pixie to your friends list Send Pixie a Private Message
Barabia - how do you work out the percentage of Crabbet blood. Or can i be really cheeky and ask you to look at it for me. You have been well recommended. My horse is called Musjid and on All Breed Pedigree he is Musjid2 as Musjid1 is a TB. He was bred by Lady Anne Wentworth (nee Blunt i think). I was always told he was Russian/Polish but what do i know. Any experts out there willing to give advice will be most welcome. My email is Withers62@waitrose.com. Thank you for your time.

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Barabia
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  11:14:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi Pixie,

I hope you don't mind that I'm posting the result here! I think it's good to let other people look at pedigree's for learning.. as I've done!

First of all, here's the link to his pedigree: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/musjid2

He is 49,12% Crabbet (49,121092 precise), and is bred by a Lady Margaret Harmswoth Blunt.. I don't know who this Lady is? It dosn't mather though, his percentage will not be more anyway!

You are told right.. he is Russian/Polish and Crabbet/Old English, with a dash of French from the damline when you go deep in his pedigree. His dam is bred in Russia (Tersk) but have bloodlines to Poland (mainly), Crabbet and France (Tail female).

His sire is mainly Crabbet/Old English with 25% Polish from Grojec.

Sireline: Skowronek.. to IBRAHIM Or.Ar.
Damline: Carabine (imp to Russia from France).. to EMESE Or.Ar.
Strain: Seglawi Jedran

Bia

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Pixie
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  11:27:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pixie to your friends list Send Pixie a Private Message
Thank you so much Barabia - you are very clever - i am very impressed - and so quick. Thank you - i am grateful. He is a skinny leggy thing - i know he is old now but he always was a skinny leggy thing. i will try and put a picture on here. Not sure how to do that though so may fail miserably.

http://www.araberzuchtverband.de/vzap-neu/folgeseiten-gb/08allnationscup/history.htm - this tells you a bit about Lady Margaret Harmsworth Blunt. She was someone's daughter (obviously) but some one important in Arab Breeding. My memory fails me.

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