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leezee26
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 Posted - 09 Oct 2007 : 10:46:59 AM
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| Hi Pixie, sounds nice but you will know what is the right horse! Yes the £4500 seems alot of money but as I said to someone the other day who has found a really safe pony but its expensive, it doesnt matter what I think its how you feel when you ride it. Ok I wouldnt pay that for this particular pony but its not what I want! I do believe in a fair trial and you are not a timewaster for requesting to hack this coloured out. I do think age is immaterial if the horse is what you were looking for and safe. Good luck Thursday, let us know! Leighx |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 : 11:53:11 AM
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| Thanks Leigh - your opinion gratefully received. |
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Pixie
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Oct 2007 : 09:40:05 AM
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| Looked at the WelshxTB yesterday - he was fab. but i felt and looked too big on him. but it was a brilliant experience and proves that when i sit on the right horse i feel right. i felt nearly right on him and was trotting and cantering in a big wide open space with no nerves but just felt too big on him. He wasn't too short but did have a small neck and head. very pretty but made him look like a kids pony. had he been just a bit bigger i wouldn't bother to have gone back i would just have arranged for a vetting. I am viewing a Black Welsh Sec D 14.2 11yr old on Monday. We shall see. |
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Pixie
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 : 11:50:04 AM
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| OK went to see the the Welsh Section D today. One of the questions i ask when i ring is does the horse kick......... anyway we get there and we pick up the front foot and then go towards the back foot and the seller says oh go carefully down there he sometimes kicks out. Iimmediately stood back and said to her - does he kick then whilst I pulled a puzzled face as this is one of the questions i ask. and she says yes he is dreadful if there is a feed bucket around he really lashes out. so to stop her chattering on i put my hand up and say - let me stop you right there...... i don't want to look at him further as i do not want to buy a horse that kicks. and she looked at me as if i was being unreasonable and i was very polite and said thank you i hope you find him a lovely home where he can kick someone who doesn't mind and then we exited stage left. TIME WASTER........... |
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leezee26
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 : 3:13:33 PM
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| Oh what a shame Pixie, you must feel so disheartened! I am keeping my eyes peeled for you. I have just acquired a warmblood and my partner has told me that one of my others has to go, which Im not too happy about but sadly it looks as though its going to be my little Arab girl. She is 15hh and 9yrs, with the sweetest temp. She has been backed but has been having babies. Shes prob too green for you but let me know? Hope you find something soon! Leighx |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 : 7:19:11 PM
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| oh leezee right height, right age, but i don't think i'm good enough to do justice to a real green horse. i am wondering though if it would be worth buying a youngster or a green horse and giving it to my friend for 6 months or so. Not sure i could wait to get my hands on it though. keep your eyes and ears open for me though. Many thanks. |
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joanna_piana
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 : 10:01:01 PM
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How annoying for you, hope you hadn't travelled miles  I still think it's fate telling you it's an arab you need  !! There is a rather lovely chestnut mare on here for sale Taisha I think she is just gorgeous  Especially if you have someone to help you maybe you could bring something on together rather than just get your friend to do it. Some babies can be very easy just depends on temperament. A young lad at our yard has just broken his mare and she has just been a star and takes everything in her stride. She's already been out jumping, cross country and dressage and she's only four so don't let the age put you off looking. |
      
Harthall Rashida RIP, Binley Ishara, Bouchan
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 09:59:02 AM
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| I'm having a good think about what you have said joanna. what worries me is - from a negative but maybe realistic view point - just suppose i did'nt get on with a youngster/greenie - what would i do with it. Wouldn't want to re-sell it but i suppose i could. Although that would not rest easily with me. on the other hand it might all go swimmingly well. oh who knows. its a bit of a lottery. Any advice/opinions eagerly and gratefully accepted. |
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geegee
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England
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 12:55:26 PM
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Hi Pixie,
If I were in your shoes, I would continue to look for the horse that you had set in your mind. One that doesn't kick, is good to handle and ride and one that is going to give you confidence.
I think that I would look more for the temperament of the horse than the age or height. I personally think that if you are riding a 16hh and feel confident because it has a fantastic temperament, this is far better than riding a 15hh and not feeling too sure.
What about putting a wanted ad up?
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bridie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 4:10:48 PM
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Keep looking and you will find the right horse.......honestly.
I looked for almost a year before I found my boy.
Ive also just had my time majorly wasted by a girl who wanted to ride one of my horses......I advertised in a local feed merchants for someone to come and ride Hari as I am bogged down at work and he is bored, I had numerous replys but chose this one as she actually seemed to have a bit about her and with Hari you have to as he can be a bit of a git sometimes......anyway he is now clipped & shod and looking forward to doing some ridden showing next season and this girl is nowhere to be found.
I wish you were nearer to me.....our mare would be ideal for you as she is so gentle and kind.
I now need to go through all the rigmarole again if Im to find someone to ride H........I think perhaps I wont bother, but he is so bored doing nowt.....I wish I could just let someone borrow him and have fun with him because he loves doing stuff, but Im a bit short on the trusting people side due to the state my mare came home in earlier on this year.
Sorry Ive hijacked your post.......KEEP AT IT......the right one will coma along.
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 7:05:59 PM
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| hi jack away AL'ers. Any info, advice or stories are welcome. If nothing else i'm learning a lot about what i don't want. lol. i do feel that somewhere out there is a horse for me and some how i feel that it will find me - thats probably a load of old rot but i just get that feeling. but i guess i have to kiss a lot of frogs before i find a prince. sorry to bore anyone but its great to have a rant on here. |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 12:42:55 PM
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Today's story and latest news. Went to see a so called well schooled with balanced paces 15hh 7 yr PBA today. Having asked all the right questions on the phone decided to go and see it. It was very pretty a little ticklish and pulled a couple of grumpy faces but seemed like a nice person. Had good clean limbs and well put together. trotted up in hand nicely. Asked to see it on the lunge. A bit "gimpy" on the left rein. every 4th or 5th trot step. couldn't quite nail where it was lame but wasn't quite right. bloke selling was a ridden show judge and knowledgeable and was selling his daughters pony. She'd only had it 6 months. My friend got on it and pushed a few of its buttons. it wasn't very forthcoming. The bloke said to my friend that he'd never seen anyone ride like that in all of his time of judging. i nearly laughed. she explained that she was putting her leg on and asking it to accept the bridle - which it wasn't doing. She is a beautiful rider. Anyway I got on it and i kid you not - i have never sat on a more idle backward thinking horse in all my life. it wasn't naughty it just wasn't willing. so apart from it not being quite right on the left rein which either the bloke didn't know or thought we wouldn't notice that was another complete waste of time. He told me it was forward going on the phone. it might have been forward going if we had applied the stick and carrot exercise.
Am i doing something wrong? Both of my friends say that i am just being unlucky. they are good friends and would be able to tell me if i was doing something wrong. i am quite happy to accept criticism so bring in on AL'ers.
Oh and it was 90 mins there and 90 mins back again. hey ho. |
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Hazel Cornes
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 3:19:13 PM
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No criticism. After years of trying to buy sane ponies for my children which in one instance left me £1000 worse off and still no pony. My husband dreaded it as we had more flat tyres, 2 on one occasion and they were always farrier's nails!
You've obviously got the phone call sorted. My questions were
Why selling
How long owned (under 12 months alarm bells - investigate further).
Previous owners
Competition record
How kept
Type of bridle (bit etc)
Traffic
Ever been lame and illnesses
What sort of viewing facilities
When we arrived we always saw the pony/horse stood up, walked away & back, trotted away & back on a hard surface. If they didn't do it properly would make them do it until we were satisfied. We would NEVER, sit on a pony/horse without the owner or owner's rider riding first. After we rode we would say if we were interested but that we wanted to discuss it and would ring back when we got home - which we always did. Always found the genuine sellers would offer 1st refusal and also 1st viewing. If during any point of the viewing one of us decided the pony/horse was not for us we would politely say thank you and leave.
On one occasion went to Leics to view a 15hd worker for my son. Very nice people and started chatting to the rider (friend of owner). She turned out to be a talented event rider and had done extremely well at PC Champs and ridden on one of the Br teams. She rode the horse beautifully on the flat, no prob, then she jumped the mare. Every time the mare was ridden at a jump she backed off and her ears were flat back, we could tell it was the ability of the jockey that got her over. After we had watched we declined to ride, they were stunned. We explained, diplomatically, that my son was approx 10yrs younger and needed a ride to take him into a fence. We did find one bought it on a Monday (vetted) and it went back on the Friday due to it being a cronic head shaker which had shown no clinical signs on the Monday but as soon as we put the horse in the arena with long grass all around ........ It was our local dealer so no prob in returning but my son was gutted.
From the seller's point of view - when we were selling our Connemara a lady came and was very nervous and seemed inexperienced. She rang back and was suprised when I said I felt the pony wasn't the right one for her. I found out afterwards, on the grapevine, she'd had a bad experience and lost confidence. Bumble went to a local young first time buyer who has now got her to jump and we sold her as a non jumper!
Keep looking and don't drop your standards. I always said I would rather miss a good one than rush and buy one and find out it wasn't suitable.
Hazel
PS Hope I haven't put you off, just wanted you to know what others have been through.
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Gail
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 7:50:53 PM
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Hi Pixie,
You are not having much luck are you? I am quite sure it isn't you and you have just been unfortunate. Stick to your guns, keep looking for the right horse and I am sure you will just click with the right horse for you.
Keep us posted and good luck
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 1:34:26 PM
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| Thanks Hazel - your story is useful and gives me confidence that i am doing the right thing and just have to keep going. Also Thanks Gail for your comments too. I really appreciate any help anyone can offer. Watch this space. Yawn........... |
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joanna_piana
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 8:25:11 PM
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| Oh dear that's a shame problem is I think people see there own horses through rose tinted spectacles so sometimes they probably genuinely believe what they are saying! I know that Shida is perfect in every way problem is very few people agree with me!! |
Harthall Rashida RIP, Binley Ishara, Bouchan
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Pixie
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 6:55:54 PM
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lol at Joanna piana - i accept what your saying and it made me chuckle.
i don't think any one of us would gladly show off a gimpy horse. i for one would be embarrassed at the least and at the very most would feel sorry for the poor animal who was sore. these sellers are all chancers hoping to find a mug punter. |
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alix liddle
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England
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 9:13:29 PM
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Hi Pixie
I think you will know when you see the right horse; they just feel right to me, either straightaway or after about 10 minutes. I bought a greenish 5 year old and I'm not all that experienced about schooling, but I have a lesson once a week and hack out the rest of the time. She felt right when I sat on her because she's quite calm and sane, and when I tried her out she went past some open car boots with toddlers around, buses, kids on trampolines and lawnmowers. I think it can be scary committing to buying a horse, and one of my biggest fears was that I would end up with a crazy flybucker or rearer. Good luck. |
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Pixie
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 9:33:08 PM
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| thanks for your story Alix Liddle - its much appreciated and giving me hope. |
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Pixie
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Posted - 04 Nov 2007 : 11:24:49 AM
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| I went to see a very sweet 8yr old 15hh bay gelding yesterday. Is not as forward going as i had hoped for but my guess is that i can pep him up a bit in the long term. I don't think anything is going to be as forward going as i want compared to my other wishes if you know what i mean. He is a warmblood x. I asked the lady what she thought he was crossed with as he has a very pretty face and quite a high tail carriage and she thought an arab. she didn't know i had an arab already. he was very sweet - spooked at a pheasant flying up but did go anywhere or spin. a car thing type quad went past the edge of the menage with loads of kids hanging off the side and whistling for dogs and lots of hooting. he went a bit hollow but didn't run off. my old lad would have shot sideways at 90 mile an hour. so all in all so good so far. My friend jumped him and put him at the jumps too far away and too close and he didn't bother. he just accepted where she put him and still jumped. bless. not that i am going to do any real jumping on him anyway but it was good to see if he was genuine. i am going back to hack him next saturday with the lady's daughter. they were very nice people and guess what only 25 mins up the road for me. keep your fingers crossed all. and if you have any views or questions you think i should ask please feel free to advise me. all comments accepted gratefully. thanks for listening/reading. |
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Info Sponge
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Posted - 04 Nov 2007 : 6:49:55 PM
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Hi everyone,
Year's ago I sadly had to sell a horse due to work comittments and advertised him in the local paper.
You can imagine my reaction when I found some 'potential buyers' trying him out in his field when I went to feed him!
Needless to say there was no way they were going to even have a chance of having him. Perhaps they were trying to avoid being time wasters but what a cheek. |
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Arachnid
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Posted - 04 Nov 2007 : 7:09:33 PM
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Pixie if you dont mind me saying so you dont sound very enthusiastic. You sound like you might settle for this horse rather than being inspired (I couldnt sleep with excitement when I found Spider although this might on reflection have shown a lamentable lack of judgement  )I would wait for the one you have been waiting your whole life for (but perhaps you are a more measured and careful person)
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Pixie
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Posted - 04 Nov 2007 : 9:30:16 PM
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| I take your point Arachnid. But am trying not to get too excited as don't want my heart to rule my head. This is the first horse i really wanted to go back and hack out and am really looking forward to Saturday and if the lady rang me and said i couldn't go - not that she is going to sell him in between now and Saturday there is absolutely no pressure - i would be sooooo disappointed. When i hacked my old lad today. He was as sharp as sharp could be. shying at everything, spun round twice, tried to canter off when a pheasant flew out. and whilst i think its funny on him my nerve wouldn't hold on a newbie. i have to be realistic. I am not getting any younger and my hip and knees aren't good. so all in all even if i waited for my absolute dream horse i probably couldn't ride one side of it...... i invite your comments. Many thanks. |
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Kirsty5278
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 12:44:04 PM
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LOL..... only just caught onto this thread!!! Poor Pixie! I shouldn't laugh but every second post was "went to see such and such today!"... You must be working your way round the country!
I really do wish you so much luck with the latest viewing! but don't settle, make sure he's the 'one'! Some 'ones' take a little work to make them your dream horse....
Good luck! xx |
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cassy
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 1:54:46 PM
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| pm me pixie, if your in my area we have 2 lovely anglos 15.2 and 16.1hh, mega easy to do and ride, they hack, jump, show, will do anything, if in my area you can ride for free we are hu10 7hh i am angienjohn@hotmail.co.uk |
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